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Golden Tiger at 14 days of 12/12
Very happy and healthy plan, @ToNinA
you clearly know how to treat a lady well! Is she a new plant from seed, or a clone from an older mom?
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Very happy and healthy plan, @ToNinA
you clearly know how to treat a lady well! Is she a new plant from seed, or a clone from an older mom?
Thanks for joining us with your GT2 regular version @Carraxe
Since you're growing both together, curious to hear your insights on Golden Tiger vs Malawi after the grow and curing. The first, more advanced and chunky Golden Tiger female is clearly a more Malawi dominant pheno. The 'slow pheno' looks very Koh Chang Thai (how’s the smell on that one?). The ultra slow plant was still in very early flowering, but looks Hmong/Meo Thai dominant, definitely more suited for tropical outdoor growing than for indoors. How are they doing 1 month later?
I just popped GT X A5H for my indoor summer grow! I'll post pics over in that thread soon. I would like to hear more about the high. "Totally destroyed" sounds like what I'm looking for.I'm sure she is stilll killer after half of year of curing @FeelHazeI'm lately into 8-9 months cured Golden Tiger x A5 Hazes for late afternoon and they always totally destroy me
FeelHaze
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I'm sure she is stilll killer after half of year of curing @FeelHaze
I love the stuff you can cure a long time and that keeps surprinsing you with added depth to the effects each time you try it.
How does it compare to the GT#2 and the Killer A5 Haze ?
Thanks for joining us with your GT2 regular version @Carraxe
The first, more advanced and chunky Golden Tiger female is clearly a more Malawi dominant pheno. The 'slow pheno' looks very Koh Chang Thai (how’s the smell on that one?). The ultra slow plant was still in very early flowering, but looks Hmong/Meo Thai dominant, definitely more suited for tropical outdoor growing than for indoors. How are they doing 1 month later?
While these plants haven't been smoked yet, I have to say that I find Malawi more consistent as a strain. All the specimens had the same characteristics.
On the other hand, the mixed results on the GT due to its unpredictable nature, make me think about the differences between a strain and a cross. For a cross to be a strain, there should be a series of characteristics that you can find in most of the specimens, these are the ones that define the strain.
If I grow some seeds and the plants have mixed characteristics from its parental strains, I can be pleased because I have the chance to select the plants I prefer, but I can also be pissed because the characteristics of the strain are undefined.
In the seeds I grew, I found a 14-weeker strong in the Malawi side, and four Thai leaning 16+ weekers. Inside the Thai leaning ones, some smell like lemons, and others don't smell much, so the Thai leaning ones not always have the best Thai smell.
Do you know what would be very nice? a 12/14 weeker Golden Tiger with the best characteristics of the Thai regarding aromas and effects, and the best characteristics of the Malawi in maturation time and strength.
That'd be what I'd wish for, and that would be a nice path for selection, in my opinion.
Sweet smokes
Version three was more like that @Carraxe, out of 6 seeds from the fems, 2 were more around the 12-13 week finish time for malawi side, slim buds, oily scent etc and 4 were lemony thai scented some clear but the one I kept is more lemony and sometimes meaty smell. Thai like vigour and structure with beefed up buds from the malawi and excellent resin coverage. 14 weeks maturation time.
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Golden Tiger from regular seeds. 3 cuts just rooted. Starting 2 clones of each in granulated rockwool. Awaiting space to open in the flower room, when the clones will be rooted for a week or so and should be right to go.
A very interesting pheno from the current golden tiger fem seeds. 11 weeks of flowering here and in a 1 gallon pot. Smell is a bit like lemony baby shit sweet side and then tropical fruity between guava and passionfruit type smell on the back end. Really quite a great smell to be honest.
@dubi I assume this is a meo thai leaner?
@dubi I assume this is a meo thai leaner?
Thanks for your honest opinion @Carraxe Golden Tiger (as stated in the strain description) is a complex polyhybrid at 'F3' stage that combines 2 different Thai strains and 2 different parent plants from same Malawi strain. As such, it shows some variability, but at a desirable point, with multiple worthwhile expressions to choose from, while still maintaining strong vigor, yield and extreme potency.
Further inbreeding to stabilize a single expression would reduce that variability, but at the cost of losing the extreme peaks I like to offer with this strain.
That said, the Golden Tiger fem version is more consistent, tamer, faster flowering, and less variable, therefore more suitable for non tropical latitudes and small indoor gardens where selection is limited.
On the other hand, many customers have asked for more Thai dominant expressions in Golden Tiger releases. That led to the release of the more Thai leaning Golden Tiger 3 version, and the classic Golden Tiger 2 regular version uses a male with a stronger Thai influence than the feminized line.
Of course, it’s impossible to satisfy everyone’s preferences with a single release.
Also keep in mind that some of the best strains from the ’90s like Kali Mist, Jack Herer and Super Silver Haze were also highly heterozygous, probably even more so than the Golden Tiger you grew. Yet they still produced many elite individuals that won cups and became foundational to many other Spanish seed companies.
Both can be extremely potent, although Golden Tiger has in average higher cannabinoid content and more frequently produces very trippy phenos of higher frequency. Killer A5 Haze tends to be more sedative, and the trippy side is usually more dissociative.
Thanks @Limeygreen for giving a try to the classic Golden Tiger 2 version after a few runs of the 3rd version.
She a a beauty It's clearly a Thai dom pheno, can be easily recognized by the pointy calyxes, and more open, foxtailed flower structure, in contrast to the fatter Malawi calyxes and denser buds.
Her flower structure is more on the Hmong-Meao Thai side, although the strong lemony side comes more often from Koh Chang Thai, while the more refined 'guava and passionfruit' terps you describe are not directly found in any of the parent plants involved, they are the result of the desirable recombination i was trying to explain to @Carraxe at this stage of the hybrid.
She a a beauty
It's clearly a Thai dom pheno, can be easily recognized by the pointy calyxes, and more open, foxtailed flower structure, in contrast to the fatter Malawi calyxes and denser buds.Her flower structure is more on the Hmong-Meao Thai side, although the strong lemony side comes more often from Koh Chang Thai, while the more refined 'guava and passionfruit' terps you describe are not directly found in any of the parent plants involved, they are the result of the desirable recombination i was trying to explain to @Carraxe at this stage of the hybrid.
nattyroots
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Hi all
Here’s my GT, Thai leaning I think. Around 100 days flowering and still seems to want to go a bit longer. Grassy and some Malawi funk in the end. The most vigorous plant I’ve grown, during veg overtook plants a month older than her. In flowering it seems to stall at around 30/45 days and then starts packing on some weight. Lots of trichs and some big fat pistils. Surpusingly de se. A joy to be trained and easy to get a lot tops on a plant.
I let mine flower for two weeks before transplanting up to avoid excessive stretch. Let’s see how the clones go. I transplanted at day 0 and here they are at day two. Maybe I over fed the clones a bit and underfed their older sis?
I’ve been adding gypsum, epsom and potassium sulfate along with some rock powder in flo to peat perlite mix. In veg some fish emulsion and gypsum. And some good compost. What’s your regimen Dubi?
Here’s my GT, Thai leaning I think. Around 100 days flowering and still seems to want to go a bit longer. Grassy and some Malawi funk in the end. The most vigorous plant I’ve grown, during veg overtook plants a month older than her. In flowering it seems to stall at around 30/45 days and then starts packing on some weight. Lots of trichs and some big fat pistils. Surpusingly de se. A joy to be trained and easy to get a lot tops on a plant.
I let mine flower for two weeks before transplanting up to avoid excessive stretch. Let’s see how the clones go. I transplanted at day 0 and here they are at day two. Maybe I over fed the clones a bit and underfed their older sis?
I’ve been adding gypsum, epsom and potassium sulfate along with some rock powder in flo to peat perlite mix. In veg some fish emulsion and gypsum. And some good compost. What’s your regimen Dubi?
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GreenDawn
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gt 14 in flower. looks solid to me. lowered the rh to 45 and raised the temps to 27C
still d/l 13/11. on organic soil. will still take some time.. no glitter no cristals... the bud just start to develop. its 0,9 m only high but massive.(!)
gave it some melasses. will give it a push. I think.
still d/l 13/11. on organic soil. will still take some time.. no glitter no cristals... the bud just start to develop. its 0,9 m only high but massive.(!)
gave it some melasses. will give it a push. I think.
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nattyroots
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Lovely monster there GreenDawn.
I’m getting ready to pull the trigger but it keeps reflowrring/foxtailing so I’m guessing the longer the better? Do you think I could’ve fed it more P K to get it even chunkier or this what this pheno looks like. Malawi funk coming through stronger now, that musky thing with a touch of pine. Not much citrus in mine. Trichs prob around 10% amber. I’m guessing I’m at week 14/15 now.
I’m getting ready to pull the trigger but it keeps reflowrring/foxtailing so I’m guessing the longer the better? Do you think I could’ve fed it more P K to get it even chunkier or this what this pheno looks like. Malawi funk coming through stronger now, that musky thing with a touch of pine. Not much citrus in mine. Trichs prob around 10% amber. I’m guessing I’m at week 14/15 now.
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Thanks for your appreciation..., yours has bigger buds than mine. That might be a different pheno.
My seeds sprout in the 22 dez. and i flowered it until 24th of jan 10 days total darknes from then consequent darkness rather only 10 hrs light every day.
-> slow grow but no reveg reflower foxtail problems.
i did a lot of pruning and LST in the beginning to let it grow bushy and also deformed the main antenna. that resulted
in many budsides. after replanting in 20 L.
(had to sort out males in that stage, so she remained my MAIN horse!!)(with 2 guawis)
since. the plant was strong. and it lives on mainly compost and soil and was replanted twice on some fishblood and bonemeal and 10 spoons of neudorfs organic (!). Also gave it 1 double dose of pk at the pre flower. which was a little too much for my guawi(look there) same soil.
same everything. maybe less light.
generally i try to use reduced N as that creates to much plant for my room.
also used normal tomato fertilizer. few.
I also have only suboptimal 7ph hard tap.
did not correct un this grow.
which is ok in organic soil and in the decisive flower phase but not so good at the early stages,where it should be corrected.
we have 90rh year round. turned out: air dryer machine raises the vaporation pressure. and temperature. I think that was the trick.
fan always strong.
good root airation must also not be underrated... so vermiculite and perlite is a 'trick, and best drainage possible. rather dry soil.
in the late flower i avoid too much fertilizer
especially dont take N as it only creates chlorophil..
but use 1 spoon of melasses per gallon.two spoons create mycellium and mushrooms and CO2. which can be usefull. (if one turns off the big filter vent to let the co2 raise innthe box.)
but i see the effect of the melasses already. at least i think its it, that make the buds grow and shine. with the high temp and low humidity. lets see.
The trick 'to monster' is simply longer veg. I think. And a big pot. after the stretch before the preflower.
PK is recommendd in early flower, as far as I understood, rather one shot per grow!?
My seeds sprout in the 22 dez. and i flowered it until 24th of jan 10 days total darknes from then consequent darkness rather only 10 hrs light every day.
-> slow grow but no reveg reflower foxtail problems.
i did a lot of pruning and LST in the beginning to let it grow bushy and also deformed the main antenna. that resulted
in many budsides. after replanting in 20 L.
(had to sort out males in that stage, so she remained my MAIN horse!!)(with 2 guawis)
since. the plant was strong. and it lives on mainly compost and soil and was replanted twice on some fishblood and bonemeal and 10 spoons of neudorfs organic (!). Also gave it 1 double dose of pk at the pre flower. which was a little too much for my guawi(look there)
same soil.same everything. maybe less light.
generally i try to use reduced N as that creates to much plant for my room.
also used normal tomato fertilizer. few.
I also have only suboptimal 7ph hard tap.
did not correct un this grow.
which is ok in organic soil and in the decisive flower phase but not so good at the early stages,where it should be corrected.
we have 90rh year round. turned out: air dryer machine raises the vaporation pressure. and temperature. I think that was the trick.
fan always strong.
good root airation must also not be underrated... so vermiculite and perlite is a 'trick, and best drainage possible. rather dry soil.
in the late flower i avoid too much fertilizer
especially dont take N as it only creates chlorophil..
but use 1 spoon of melasses per gallon.two spoons create mycellium and mushrooms and CO2. which can be usefull. (if one turns off the big filter vent to let the co2 raise innthe box.)
but i see the effect of the melasses already. at least i think its it, that make the buds grow and shine. with the high temp and low humidity. lets see.
The trick 'to monster' is simply longer veg. I think. And a big pot. after the stretch before the preflower.
PK is recommendd in early flower, as far as I understood, rather one shot per grow!?
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nattyroots
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And here are the younger sisters getting their stretch on. I bend a bit now to get more tops. When should I start pushing PK? Any other hints as what to do for bigger buds ?
Gonna harvest the big sis today or tomorrow I think. amber but still pushing new grow. Unstoppable.
Gonna harvest the big sis today or tomorrow I think. amber but still pushing new grow. Unstoppable.
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I can't wait to see your results on the gt3, just cut my cut down and I reek of her, love it so much.Just ordered me some GT 3rd version along with African Gas!
nattyroots
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Girls about two weeks into Flo happy in the sun. Def seems to be moving into flower formation faster than its older sis from seed that just got the chop yesterday at 15 weeks. (Lights kept off except for pic time of course).
Buds have weight and density. If the clones flower faster I might have a keeper. Love the smell which is so tough to describe, maybe some bergamot in there, some Malawi funk, let’s see what it tastes like when dry and when cured. Tried a bud that died on the plant and high is strong and cuts through other highs. Good four hour + high
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More later.
Buds have weight and density. If the clones flower faster I might have a keeper. Love the smell which is so tough to describe, maybe some bergamot in there, some Malawi funk, let’s see what it tastes like when dry and when cured. Tried a bud that died on the plant and high is strong and cuts through other highs. Good four hour + high
.More later.
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theBeaver
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Hello fellow Golden Tiger fans.
I am growing 2 Golden Tiger v2 (F)s. One plant (F) is showing signs of excessive nitrogen. Clawing leaves and dark green color. The clawing started about a week ago and is seems to be progressively getting worse.
The other plant is much lighter in color without the clawed leaves.
Both GT ladies were started in 1 gal pots of Happy Frog. They germinated 48 days ago. Flipped to 11/13 lighting when they were 29 days old. Transplanted into five gallon pots of Happy Frog nine days later and watered them with a microbe tea. All other watering has been tap water. My tap water is pH 6.4 and EC of 52.
The above pictures are from today. Temps are 80F days and 72F days. Humidity runs about 60%. LED lights are putting out 800 PPFD. I cut back from 900 PPFD when the clawing started.
Do you think too strong of light could have caused the clawing?
I am growing 2 Golden Tiger v2 (F)s. One plant (F) is showing signs of excessive nitrogen. Clawing leaves and dark green color. The clawing started about a week ago and is seems to be progressively getting worse.
The other plant is much lighter in color without the clawed leaves.
Both GT ladies were started in 1 gal pots of Happy Frog. They germinated 48 days ago. Flipped to 11/13 lighting when they were 29 days old. Transplanted into five gallon pots of Happy Frog nine days later and watered them with a microbe tea. All other watering has been tap water. My tap water is pH 6.4 and EC of 52.
The above pictures are from today. Temps are 80F days and 72F days. Humidity runs about 60%. LED lights are putting out 800 PPFD. I cut back from 900 PPFD when the clawing started.
Do you think too strong of light could have caused the clawing?
