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CBG breeding and current varieties

Piff_cat

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If you take a look at smalls chemotype 4 you'll find that north east asian hemp specifically Japan and Korea has several unique chemotypes. Strains with 0 cbd but cbc instead. Over 5 percent cannabigerol monomethyl ether . Chemotype with 0 cannabinoids. Shiatsu kush is at least half jap landrace so not surprising its throwing weird profiled. These could be very useful in f1 with nld by adding bulk dif terp profiles faster flowering without introducing a cbd synthase into nld. Cbc also has big potential to increase thc effect and longevity. These are all shiatsu kush profiles from wa state tests
 

GrowingHigher

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Thanks Tjule and Piff_cat. Good to know. I'll check out that Smalls paper, if I can find it out of his sea of Cannabis citations
 
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Piff_cat

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Thanks Tjule and Piff_cat. Good to know. I'll check out that Smalls paper, if I can find it out of his sea of Camnabis citations

I have found that for cannabinoid content for landraces the papers by small in the 70s are an excellent resource. The metabolism of cannabinoid theory is outdated but tge contents describe plants that no longer exist unhybridized. Especially the seized flower from known sources. When you have a bunch of uncategorized data outliers are a great place to start. Eventually patterns will appear which can be used to hypothesize and test.
 

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zaprjaques

da boveda kid
I wonder if this is true, but i ordered some CBG flowers from Austria, in their lab papers it says its Santhica (EU approved hemp cultivar), that clocks at almost 17% CBG.
Vapes nicely with a very quick onset of effects.

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The actual question is, someone must have popped a few seeds of Santhica, has had them tested and found a special plant?
The company who sells the flowers is really small, usually works indoors with the exception of the CBG cultivar wich is labelled outdoors, probably greenhouse but not sure. I suspect they work with clones mostly to get stable results.

Probably not 100percent on topic since this thread is more about US outdoor farming from seed but yeah, i hope yall can forgive.
 

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goingrey

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Yep looks great.

The 17%er must be a freak pheno. An online seedbank lists 0.12% THC, 1-2% CBD, 2-3% CBG for both Santhica 27 and Santhica 70.
 

zaprjaques

da boveda kid
Yep looks great.

The 17%er must be a freak pheno. An online seedbank lists 0.12% THC, 1-2% CBD, 2-3% CBG for both Santhica 27 and Santhica 70.
Ok, looks like its <17%, my bad, but analysis says its around 14%. theyre doing the analysis of cannabinoids in-house apparently... terpenes get outsourced.

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Happy 420 :)
 

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GrowingHigher

Active member
I wonder if this is true, but i ordered some CBG flowers from Austria, in their lab papers it says its Santhica (EU approved hemp cultivar), that clocks at almost 17% CBG.
Vapes nicely with a very quick onset of effects.

Edit:
The actual question is, someone must have popped a few seeds of Santhica, has had them tested and found a special plant?
The company who sells the flowers is really small, usually works indoors with the exception of the CBG cultivar wich is labelled outdoors, probably greenhouse but not sure. I suspect they work with clones mostly to get stable results.

Probably not 100percent on topic since this thread is more about US outdoor farming from seed but yeah, i hope yall can forgive.
Interesting. Santhica is listed as monoecious
 

goingrey

Well-known member
That is indeed interesting. I didnt know. I guess this cant be it then... i mean how are they going to inhibit male flowers/seed forming, outdoors even?!

It could be done with some chemicals like ethephon.

But probably it's something else. The "Santhica" sample they sent for terpene analysis looks totally different to the buds in your jar (way worse).
 

zaprjaques

da boveda kid
It could be done with some chemicals like ethephon.

But probably it's something else. The "Santhica" sample they sent for terpene analysis looks totally different to the buds in your jar (way worse).
I called them and asked how theyre doing it. Answer was, 'There are stable females in the line, Santhica 27 that is, and they selcted for it and use clones. Also they moved the production indoors.'
Sounds plausible, maybe its also true.
One way or another, i enjoy the product and have bought it multiple times, it seems to be consistent.
As for the high percentage of CBG i suppose you can reach a far larger percentage in flowers only as the 3%CBG content stated on most sites for Santhica 27 is measured in the entire bio mass of the plant... 🤷‍♂️
 

Timj

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If anyone is still interested in Dutch Passions CBG Force. I'm growing a mother plant out and backing a few clones for more seed to work with. I had terrible germination with the seeds I purchased. Only 1 of three actually germinated. Very slow growth at first and it was a bit more difficult to clone. I did get 4 of 4 clones to root. But, they took almost 4 weeks to root. Here's the mother plant, the clones I'm using to back breed. Female on the left,pollen donor on the right. I just flipped to 12/12 so I'm not showing pollen sacs yet. The last picture is just a few extra clones I took.
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amanda88

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heres my link for Hemp CBG seeds 10 grams / 750 seeds for E2.50


translated from the Dutch by google

I've not got any since as most of the strains I've tried to breed from other sites are way too weak as Tim indicated above
 

goingrey

Well-known member
390810-hennep-olie-vezel-finola.jpg

heres my link for Hemp CBG seeds 10 grams / 750 seeds for E2.50


translated from the Dutch by google

I've not got any since as most of the strains I've tried to breed from other sites are way too weak as Tim indicated above
Finola is high in CBG?
 

amanda88

Well-known member
Finola is high in CBG?

390810-hennep-olie-vezel-finola.jpg
HEMP FOR HEALTHY CBD OIL!
This Finnish Hemp contains a negligible amount of psychoactive substance (THC) and is therefore legal to grow. The plant produces a lot of CBD and is therefore ideal for the production of CBD oil! Due to their compact growth, the plants are ideal for a small spot in the garden and for cultivation in pots. Larger growers also love this variety because the plants can be harvested with a combine. A by-product for this hemp is the fiber, which is somewhat short in length due to its low height. You can find even more applications of hemp on the educational website www.pantanova.nl. The administrator of this website René Sauveur gave us the idea of this Finnish breed, thanks for the tip!
Make sure you keep the seed packaging, in case an overzealous “gross mustache” comes along. Each country has its own legislation regarding the cultivation of hemp. Make sure you are familiar with this.​

Sowing method​


Sowing: April - June in the open ground or in pots. They germinate best at 20-30 ̊C.​

Delivery months​


the whole year​


FINOLA its from FIN land! ..lol
 

goingrey

Well-known member
390810-hennep-olie-vezel-finola.jpg
HEMP FOR HEALTHY CBD OIL!
This Finnish Hemp contains a negligible amount of psychoactive substance (THC) and is therefore legal to grow. The plant produces a lot of CBD and is therefore ideal for the production of CBD oil! Due to their compact growth, the plants are ideal for a small spot in the garden and for cultivation in pots. Larger growers also love this variety because the plants can be harvested with a combine. A by-product for this hemp is the fiber, which is somewhat short in length due to its low height. You can find even more applications of hemp on the educational website www.pantanova.nl. The administrator of this website René Sauveur gave us the idea of this Finnish breed, thanks for the tip!
Make sure you keep the seed packaging, in case an overzealous “gross mustache” comes along. Each country has its own legislation regarding the cultivation of hemp. Make sure you are familiar with this.​

Sowing method​


Sowing: April - June in the open ground or in pots. They germinate best at 20-30 ̊C.​

Delivery months​


the whole year​
FINOLA its from FIN land! ..lol
They only mention CBD, not CBG.

But on the Finola website is a full profile, pretty low on everything.


But yes, cheap. Even the 10 grams for 2.50 EUR is fair enough but at the grocery store it is 5 EUR for half a kilo.
 
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