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Canadian Craft Growing Laws - Up to Date info by the people, for the people. Please keep it to the topic as A LOT of people rely on this info
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Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Catchphrase!Free Guy!
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It would be wise to craft your own beer, wine or whatever like you do your cannabis. You'd be surprised how many awesome alcohols you can produce that work for you... when you skip all the chems the commercial junk uses. (If you use the chems, you might as well buy the commercial junk)
Craft cannabis, beer, home wines, good ol' boy distilled products... if you've not reached beyond the retail shelf, you're missing a world of experience and better health.
fArside617
Member
Yeah I've been looking for a service to do it through for a decade but just don't trust anyone. There's some medical dispensaries you can do it through as well, I guess my biggest question is; who's going to be the one to set you up with ACMPR licensees to grow for? My guess was that, these services do that, but it all comes at a price.
Dime
Well-known member
It's not legal, it's gov controlled monopoly for rich investors. If it was legal I should be able to sell seeds,clones,product and have a roadside stand like veggies and no enormous fee to open up a shop if I want to provide it. Plus they doubled the penalties. The gov isn't doing it for us.
Tynehead Tom
Well-known member
I hate the fact that "consulting firms" are the gateway to getting an ACMPR grow license and that does need to change BUT.... and it's a big BUT.... that will never change untill the Insurance Companies that insure Canadian physicians... ie: family doctors or walk in clinic doctors , change the rules and allow doctors the leeway to offer cannabis as medicine as part of the standard practices.
My regular doctor isn't comfortable signing the health Canada forms because Cannabis is not covered under his private practice insurance. Health Canada, the Canadian College of Physicians and Surgeons as well as the Insurance Companies that insure doctors, surgeons, nurse practicioners ect..... need to add cannabis to the list of compounds that are "generally safe" to be offered as medicine.
My pain specialist and I had a long conversation about the drugs I am taking and my life long cannabis use. All the way back to 97/98 when my injury at work triggered a life long disability, my specialist back then did not discourage my cannabis use. I have always been open and honest with doctors about my cannabis use from day 1.
None of these doctors I see are comfortable signing the health canada form because they are not educated enough about cannabis. They don't understand the dosages and how that translates to patient care. They also don't have the knowledge to understand plant counts and how much cannabis comes from a plant. I know this because this is commonly brought up when I have these discussions with my doctors.
So the consulting firm enters the field with a Nurse Practioner on staff that does have the knowledge , or at least way more knowledge than the average family doctor or pain specialist. So we pay to play in hopes of a painless process to get licensed. I found that with License to grow when I transitioned into the ACMPR.
My last renewal for 110 indoor plants(winter) and 29 outdoor plants (summer) cost me 200 bucks plus tax.
It;s a small price to pay for the peace of mind to grow at my hearts content for 12 months.
My regular doctor isn't comfortable signing the health Canada forms because Cannabis is not covered under his private practice insurance. Health Canada, the Canadian College of Physicians and Surgeons as well as the Insurance Companies that insure doctors, surgeons, nurse practicioners ect..... need to add cannabis to the list of compounds that are "generally safe" to be offered as medicine.
My pain specialist and I had a long conversation about the drugs I am taking and my life long cannabis use. All the way back to 97/98 when my injury at work triggered a life long disability, my specialist back then did not discourage my cannabis use. I have always been open and honest with doctors about my cannabis use from day 1.
None of these doctors I see are comfortable signing the health canada form because they are not educated enough about cannabis. They don't understand the dosages and how that translates to patient care. They also don't have the knowledge to understand plant counts and how much cannabis comes from a plant. I know this because this is commonly brought up when I have these discussions with my doctors.
So the consulting firm enters the field with a Nurse Practioner on staff that does have the knowledge , or at least way more knowledge than the average family doctor or pain specialist. So we pay to play in hopes of a painless process to get licensed. I found that with License to grow when I transitioned into the ACMPR.
My last renewal for 110 indoor plants(winter) and 29 outdoor plants (summer) cost me 200 bucks plus tax.
It;s a small price to pay for the peace of mind to grow at my hearts content for 12 months.
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
I don't have my license simply because I don't believe in that scam. But yea! I support what you say and I would be there in a heartbeat. Don't need to pay scam doctors once/yr and the gubment every 2. BS!
Tynehead Tom
Well-known member
Well , for me , I found myself between a rock and a hard place.
I own a home and land and toys and .......... being an outlaw grower puts all that my wife and I have worked for at risk. I also live in a small rural community where it's pretty easy for law enforcement to locate and bust growers. I also breed cannabis as a main focus of my grows with the goal of finding plants or hybrids that help me maintain my quality of life. This means lots of seeds that are protected under my license and would be utterly lost in non licensed grow bust. That was me in 2005...... 840 plants , 10's of thousands of seeds, over a decade of breeding work and "poof" it's gone forever.
So when I decided to start growing again after moving to the BC Interior I decided that being licensed would protect my work and afford me a plant count I can work with. In my recent renewal I upped my plant count, which I won't disclose here , but it's now enough that I can really pheno hunt numbers without the fear of "the man" breathing down my neck.
fArside617
Member
I feel this is truly how to cover yourself. The current 4 plant law basically lets a person try and see if they can hack hit and like it for that matter.. and then can move onto an acmpr situation.
I'm taking the Old college course for Cannbis Production atm, and worked for a legal packing facility for a bit. Prior to that I helped out around the interior a little, another guy with 950+ plants on one property, same situation acmpr licensed but was having trouble keeping up with the work of transplanting and watering,.. busy guy... the whole acmpr deal sketched me out back then haha, I never knew if i was in the right but it never felt wrong. and my virgin eyes had never seen so much cannabis lol. anyways! cheers to your breed project!
Smoking weed I grew drinking beer and wine I brewed. I'm a happy camper!
Store bought is just fine in a pinch but part of the pleasure I get is in the anticipation of reaping what I have wrought. It's one thing to buy it it's a whole new level to have created it. And by adding a few extra ingredients you can make it uniquely yours. Cheers people enjoy the freedom we Canadians got just four years ago.
Store bought is just fine in a pinch but part of the pleasure I get is in the anticipation of reaping what I have wrought. It's one thing to buy it it's a whole new level to have created it. And by adding a few extra ingredients you can make it uniquely yours. Cheers people enjoy the freedom we Canadians got just four years ago.
fArside617
Member
some things can't be duplicated, mate.Yeah, since I don't have easy access to cane grown by the Demerara River, I just buy my rum in a store.
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Somehow I seriously doubt you have made any attempt at all to find a (likely significantly higher quality) home brew version. Again, I completely understand the convenience factor of off the shelf, and the health impact as well.Yeah, since I don't have easy access to cane grown by the Demerara River, I just buy my rum in a store.
And you would be right.
I was introduced to Guyanese rum when a customer of a customer gave me a bottle of 15 year old El Dorado (and he paid for our trip to Georgetown - but that is another story). If there is a fluid on the planet that qualifies for the title liquid gold, than this would be it. Their 21 y.o. and 25 y.o. are a bit too much. Their 15 y.o. is the sweet spot.
I think a single Ace sativa in 20 gallons of soil in a 8’ 4x4 tent could pull over a pound easy. Times 4… 3 times a year. That is a lot of dope.
And the startling thing about our home grows - they didn't put a cap on how much you could keep at home. The medical ACMPR does but the basic legal grow legislation does not. This does vary a bit by province due to the couple of no-grow provinces.
Tynehead Tom
Well-known member
well my lawyer says recreational and acmpr plant counts are seperate. Meaning I can have my alotted medical grow and still grow 4 recreational plants on top of my medical license. And you are right, when it comes to the recreational storage amounts.... again this is seperate from the acmpr amounts. To be legal, they must be stored apart from each other in seperate locked storage. OR my wife can grow the 4 recreational plants as again, the medical license does not negate a person lawfully growing and harvesting 4 plants under the recreational laws.
The whole cannabis legalization portfolio is such a bloody mess LOL but then again it was cooked up by the criminal party of canada...... the lieberals.
Justin Turdeau the king of incomplete and totally fucked up legislation LOL and so many stoners voted for these idiots...... hurts my brain trying to fathom it sometimes.
The whole cannabis legalization portfolio is such a bloody mess LOL but then again it was cooked up by the criminal party of canada...... the lieberals.
Justin Turdeau the king of incomplete and totally fucked up legislation LOL and so many stoners voted for these idiots...... hurts my brain trying to fathom it sometimes.
And if it had been up to the party of NO, how long do you think we would have waited for ANY form of legalization? The cons would have kept it in the consultation stage for another decade and their corporate buddies would never ever have allowed home growing to cut into their income. And meanwhile people's lives would have continued to be ruined every day with possession busts. Yes, the legislation is deeply flawed but at least it is a whole crapload better that not having it.
Here is the vote count for Bill 405. One conservative voted Yea.
Legalcdn
Well-known member
I completely agree. I hate politics, it's arguing and not working for the best interests of the people.
The CONs would have continued the arrest and lock them "potheads" up.
The liberals would have done it sooner but canadians as a whole did not have the bandwidth in their head to go for it during Jean Cretien.
Fuck the devisiveness in the current state of affairs and enjoy life.
The laws are not perfect, but for most people growing 4 plants is a major victory. It was not fun being arrested as a teenager for 1 joint in the 80s.
My bust was in 1970. Possession of a narcotic. 16 years old and I was a criminal for smoking pot.
Legalcdn
Well-known member
Back to craft growing:
If you look at the craft beer framework (inspections, permits, regulations, etc) they brew their own.
How would it look like if you were able to be a part of a Co-op and grow with the intent to be a small business? Everything produced would need to be irradiated or health canada would put the brakes on immediately.
Too bad we are blocked at having coffee shops.
If you look at the craft beer framework (inspections, permits, regulations, etc) they brew their own.
How would it look like if you were able to be a part of a Co-op and grow with the intent to be a small business? Everything produced would need to be irradiated or health canada would put the brakes on immediately.
Too bad we are blocked at having coffee shops.
