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Phenotype Hunt 3 Strains of Bros Grimm

Green Rush Farms - al

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Nice work … When he came back on the scene in 2016 with his old flagship C99 I was one of the very first once again to run them because I have such a success with them on the original run here is the thread on that endeavor >>> https://www.icmag.com/threads/cinderella-99.333481/
Thank you so much for the link, and really the great work and reporting. I read all 27 pages thirstfully!

I too am looking for the cloying pineapple/slightly bad meat smell with a wicked soaring buzz that I remember.

I see that back when you did the thread, you had mixed feelings about the results. Did you find a more complete pheno in all those seeds?

Once again, thanks for your interest and the work/documentation that you have shared on your Cindy quest.

-al
 

iTarzan

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Neat thread. I will follow along and hope to learn some things to grow as skillful as you grow. Thanks for sharing.
Lately many people are complain that Ocean Forrest is too hot and you added worm castings. I have been using Happy Frog with some worm castings, mushroom compost and rabbit manure. Then I feed with cal/mag and fish fertilizer or fox farm nutes. My plants don't get buds as big as a friend who uses Ocean Forrest. I am thinking of Ocean Forrest/Happy Frog 50/50.
You had seedlings in Ocean Forrest and none of them burned. They look incredible.

Did you have the seeds on a heat mat to get them to pop that far in 24 hours?
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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To the Cloner!


The plants are big enough to take clones! I like to number them by size. This helps with planning the layout in bloom later. Here are the group shots by strain showing everyone's final identity. Positive Identification and traceability at all steps is essential.

Rosetta Stone:

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Cinderella:

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Apollo:

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Cloner:

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I've set up the cloner using al's Rootin Tootin Cloner Setup Sauce. You can get more info and recipes in the 4 crosses of Slapz thread.

So we have three cuts of every individual in the cloner. Our goal here is to get at least one healthy clone of each girl. Any leftovers give us options such as extras in bloom or replacing the original mom if needed.

Moms After:

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They look a lil ragged after getting trimmed and topped, but will continue to get trained for future momhood.

As always, your comments and questions are welcome.

-al
 

iTarzan

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Green Rush Farms, "As always, your comments and questions are welcome".

I asked a question and await the answer.

If I lived in Michigan I would be ordering some stuff from you.
 

flylowgethigh

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I ran BG Apollo XX recently. Not bad dope but nothing standout about it. I have two phenos of Peak C99 running now, courtesy of Lost Tribe. Gonna make a haze hybrid with them using Seedsman OHz from JohnnyChicago via Mr Flower.

Your plants do very well in those styrofoam cups.
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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Did you have the seeds on a heat mat to get them to pop that far in 24 hours?
No just room temp. Heating mats can help fungi grow and I've had mixed results especially with old seeds. Some 3% H2O2 helps. Sterile technique and a flow hood help, but hard to sterilize seeds with more than an alcohol rinse.

Cold storage to room temp has gotten me the best results.

Thank you for your interest.

-al
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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I ran BG Apollo XX recently. Not bad dope but nothing standout about it. I have two phenos of Peak C99 running now, courtesy of Lost Tribe. Gonna make a haze hybrid with them using Seedsman OHz from JohnnyChicago via Mr Flower.

Your plants do very well in those styrofoam cups.
Thanks for the intel. I have seen that most reviewers have called it the same, but there's always a chance! lol

Good luck on the crosses.

The 32 oz cups are the best. They allow for a nice tap root and enough volume to keep the plants alive in them for 4 months, just enough time to bloom out clones. I go to 2 quart pots when they get too perturbed.

Busy Mom Room:

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2 Quart Clones at 5 Months:

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Thank you for your interest.

-al
 

flylowgethigh

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Here is what it looked like

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Green Rush Farms - al

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Disaster!

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We had a pump failure and the cuts went without spray for at least 12 hours. Quite a few are beyond revival.

This is the risk of aeroponics. If we were in any other media, 12 hours without power is just a cloudy day.

These pumps run for about 5 years or so and have a lifetime warranty. Of course we have backups of all critical equipment and luckily we can replace most of questionable cuts with fresh ones that will be 4 days behind.

Anyone that just might make it were put in a backup cloner.

Between the new cuts and any Lazuri, we should end up with at least ONE rooted clone of each individual.

Thankfully we were ready with mom plants that had been trained, making this just another bend in the road, rather than the end of it.

As always, your comments and questions are welcome.

-al
 

flower~power

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Thank you so much for the link, and really the great work and reporting. I read all 27 pages thirstfully!

I too am looking for the cloying pineapple/slightly bad meat smell with a wicked soaring buzz that I remember.

I see that back when you did the thread, you had mixed feelings about the results. Did you find a more complete pheno in all those seeds?

Once again, thanks for your interest and the work/documentation that you have shared on your Cindy quest.

-al
Well to answer your question I was disappointed because I ended up with a lot of purple phenotypes and a lot of cat piss smelling marijuana the marijuana was good but I couldn’t really find much sending it like the 1999 version and what really pissed me off is that he came back saying that it was going to be identical …he promised me ! but anyway that’s all water under the bridge…I’m enjoying what you’re doing W Cindy 99 remains one of my very favorite marijuana if only I could get the original run I believe he only put h500 seeds back then believe it or not
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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There Can be Only One! . . . or two

Before:

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After:

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I have gathered all the rooted clones, including the Lazuri from the pump outage. I cleaned up the best two clones of each individual, putting the best of each in the main run, while keeping a backup of each girl.

I'm guessing we will be going to bloom with these in just a couple weeks.

As always, your comments and questions are welcome.

-al

 

Green Rush Farms - al

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Cloner Update

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We have a viable representative of each individual. Looks like a week or two and these girls are headed to the bloom room!

I have cleaned up the bottoms and plan to only shoot prune from here.

I remember Cindy performing best as a single topped candelabra. The decision to top or not will have to be made soon.

As always, your questions and comments are welcome.

-al
 

HalfArsedFarmer

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You might try a Dutch company called femaleseeds.nl

I've grown them three times and never disappoints.

Blurb says he was creating them in late 90's for a seed bank..

If you don't know the bank they are trustworthy. Been around a long time and are priced right..

Search some of Mrwags grows, massive buds. There was also a real nice white widow x bigbud by bad ticket on here too
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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Almost Ready

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These are almost ready to go to bloom. I've started shoot pruning in preparation. I've also decided on a single top strategy. We want plenty of light to chase the best buzz, yield is a secondary concern.

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Our moms are in good shape. They just got some worm castings and tea. I'm trying to avoid uppotting them for as long as possible.

As always, your comments and questions are welcome.

-al
 

flower~power

~Star~Crash~
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Disaster!


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We had a pump failure and the cuts went without spray for at least 12 hours. Quite a few are beyond revival.

This is the risk of aeroponics. If we were in any other media, 12 hours without power is just a cloudy day.

These pumps run for about 5 years or so and have a lifetime warranty. Of course we have backups of all critical equipment and luckily we can replace most of questionable cuts with fresh ones that will be 4 days behind.

Anyone that just might make it were put in a backup cloner.

Between the new cuts and any Lazuri, we should end up with at least ONE rooted clone of each individual.

Thankfully we were ready with mom plants that had been trained, making this just another bend in the road, rather than the end of it.

As always, your comments and questions are welcome.

-al
Switch over to an oxygen cloner you’ll never have that problem because the stem stay in the water so if the pump goes out they won’t die
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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Day 7 Bloom Update


Unit:

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A lot of vibrant growth for just 7 days. 4 full new sets of leaves and a good 4 inches. Lot of early "touchdowning" going on.

Data:

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We have several events happening sooner than usual in this run. They responded so well to the light that I have cranked them up to full power a good 4 days early. The plants also got a day 7 shoot prune for growth control along with 3 hits of food.

They have received 2 rounds of al’s Super Feed N Kill Foliar Spray as noted with the circled s on the data sheet.

All of my recipe details can be found in the 4 Crosses of Slapz thread here. https://www.icmag.com/threads/4-crosses-of-slapz-all-als-tech-here.18123572/

Swaps:

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This is the last opportunity to move plants around easily. I have grouped the smallest plants together in the middle with just 2 swaps.

Roots:

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You can see a large pad of roots have grown in just a week. The roots are slightly tinged with our friends from the tea, but white and firm underneath and never slimy.

Side:

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Beautiful rosettes of vibrant green. Now if we can direct all this energy in to crafting some bud!

Trellising starts soon.

As always, your questions and comments are welcome.

-al
 

Green Rush Farms - al

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Day 14 Bloom

Unit:

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Another 4-6 inches of growth this week and I've started pinching and pruning to try and keep them out of the light.

Data:

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The plants have been eating every other day this week and required 1 pH adjustment.

Canopy:

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The canopy is filling in nicely. Only a few very bottom leaves have withered and been removed. I don't mess with leaves until the plant is done with them. This gives us a target for foliar sprays far into the bloom cycle letting us 'force feed' the plants beyond normal nutrition.

Shoot Prune:

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In this shot, you can see how shoot pruning has transformed a naturally bushy plant into a columnar beauty that will produce a maximized flower stalk.

Next up - The girls get tied up!

As always, your comments and questions are welcome.

-al
 
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