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Old 02-20-2017, 06:28 PM
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JOTI God Bud, Old School GH Flora G/M/B

Ok, so after a rough start, I have gotten things turned around and going the right direction. Ordered 10 JOTI God Bud seeds from the Hemp Depot, and got them in the NE US in 13 days. Placed them in RW cubes that had been treated in 5.5 PH'ed water. All 10 germinated, but they seemed to have trouble pushing them selves up, and getting their helmets off. I ended up having 2 that never got stood up, and rotted. Had 2 more that could never get clear of their Helmets and again died. So we are off with the remaining 6. They are at almost 4 weeks now, and have been under a 4x24"-t5 light 24/7. I waited a week to apply low level nutes ~150ppm, and have been doubling it up every week. I am currently a little over 800ppm in 3:2:1 ratio. I really believe that I should have pushed the nutes from the get go, but lets hope I don't have to go back to seed again.

Just a little preview as to what is planed. I am currently working on a tent/box that will house a 2'x3' tray, inside of a 3'x4' box/tent. I plan on doing a recirculating, top feed hydro setup; watering for 1 minute, every 45 minutes. I'll be putting the 4" cubes into some net pots, with mini cubes under and around them. I will then put enough of a layer of mini cubes in the tray to cover the roots. It will be lit with an old school Lumatek 600w HPS. Ventilation will be provided by a Can33 w/6"HO fan on it. by my calculations, this should turn the air in the box every 20 seconds. there will be some topping, and a little training. Lets just hope for no males, but I'll deal with that when they mature enough to show their sex.

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Old 02-21-2017, 08:42 PM
OMG, they are growing so fast.
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I thought I could wait till the weekend to build their new box, but I think I need to get on it asap. I can't believe how much they are changing every day. I'll take this type of problem any time, over the seedling issues. yeah I know some of the fan leaves off the first node don't look so well, but I think that is mostly due to spilling nutes on them, and I've had some low temp/humidity issues; but what do you expect for a cardboard box with a heating pad? I'm betting I can top them this weekend. Here is another pic, but it doesn't really show how much more dense they are.

Old 02-24-2017, 01:14 PM
last update before new home
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So they are 28 days from sprouting, 33 days from germination. How do most people calculate the age of seedlings?? Just thought I would take one last picture of them in their cardboard nursery, will be building a new flowering box for them over the next few days. I won't say this is a budget grow, but on the lower end at least. still need to get a few more things, such as a new carbon filter, anyone have any suggestions? I'm personally leaning toward a Can-33 myself, as I already have an RS6HO that I used with a Can-33 years ago. well here is the pic of them out growing their nursery.

Old 03-04-2017, 07:32 AM
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I'll be watching! Looking great. So if I understand correctly, these are very current seed stock?

Happy growing!
Old 03-08-2017, 12:57 PM
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Yes, this is very current seed stock through Hemp Depot, January 2017. I'll be getting pictures up of their new home later today. It has been a hell of a couple weeks, and they have taken more than their share of abuse. I'm thinking after they have a day or two to acclimate to the new home/light, I'm going to go on a trimming/training rampage to get them looking how I like.

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Old 03-08-2017, 04:35 PM
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Thanks OP for the info. I have a half pack left from 2013 and have been thinking about grabbing another to run with them.

Looking forward to seeing what you find!

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Old 03-09-2017, 01:58 AM
Home sweet home
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Well, only about 3 weeks past due, but they are in their new home. Still have to setup the top feed setup, and hang the mylar. Also have a bit more work to do on the door, and some wiring, but they really needed the space, so I just got it going.

Once I get the feed system going, they are going to get a hair cut, and some trimming. they all have about 6 tops trying to come up through the canopy, but they are so close together due to the poor, over crowded conditions. They seem pretty happy, and I think will respond to the space and light well. Well lets hope.

Here they are in the new box.

Old 03-16-2017, 12:47 AM
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went thru 20 JOTI Godbud seed's, only not to find any God phenotypes...sucked. weed was decent but more Lemon Skunk than Purple Skunk
Old 03-16-2017, 02:42 PM
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Well, they are starting to loose the hooking, and have had all the dried up, screwed up leaves removed. I have lowered the light from 24 hours to 19 hours per day. Still not seeing any preflower, so I still have no idea what I'm dealing with. Finally starting to see new growth, that isn't immedatly going to shit, it was a couple rough weeks for them. I have lowered the nutes back down to 500 ppm, still using the 3:2:1 grow ratio. I hope to get about another 5-6 inches on them, and get them spread out a little more in the next 10 days or so. Then take cuttings, and get them into flower to figure out what I'm dealing with.
Old 03-16-2017, 02:48 PM
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BigBag, I don't know what to expect, I just remember people talking about God Bud back in the day. I am personally wanting some good bud, on some good yielding plants, that could put down an elephant. I like a good over-ripe indica .

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Old 03-21-2017, 03:22 AM
Last trimming before flower
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A little over 7 weeks of veg, and it is time to get them ready to flip finally. So I did some fairly heavy duty trimming to try to give the outer/lower branches a fair chance to join the canopy. once the canopy fills out again in about 3-4 days, I'm then going to take cuttings from all plants, and clean up the bottom of the plants. Then it is lights out for 24 hours, and then onto flower. I can't believe that these plants have still not thrown any pre-flowers. Well here is a pic after their hair cut. They look a little rough, but I expect them to bounce back quickly. I can't believe they will be a full 8 weeks into veg before flip; but they did take some serious abuse. Now just hoping most of them are female.

Old 03-29-2017, 04:15 AM
Flower here we come
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Well, I finally gave up on sexing them, and just pulled the trigger on 12/12. It has only been a couple days at 12/12, but three are looking very female, two more are leaning toward female, and the front left is looking male to me. I figure I'm just going to give them a week, then make the call and chop what ever doesn't look full on female. How much damage can happen in a week? It would be nice if I only loose one, because they have grown into their environment quite well. Doing a little trimming underneath the canopy, and trimming fan leaves that are blocking any *major* lower branches. I have kicked the nutes up to 1100 ppm of 1:1:1 ratio. I I will probably change the res out this next weekend, and go to a 1:2:4 ratio, unless I get some other form of PK booster.





Woot, finally setup the white balance on the camera, pics look much better.
Old 04-03-2017, 04:10 AM
flower week one
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Well, not a lot to report. Changed res, and running about 1000 ppm of GMB in a 1:2:4 ratio. Still some deformed leaves, but nothing that scares me too much. Temps have been a bitch to regulate this last week (*winter can go away any time now!*); which I suspect could be the cause of some of the issues. Anyway, confirmed 2 males out of the six. They got the chop, and I'm trying to spread out the remaining 4 to fill the area the best I can.

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Little over 2 weeks into flower, and definataly have a couple different pheno. the ones on the left are staying nice and compact, while the one on the back right is streatching like a mad man. Finally getting some baby buds going on.
Old 04-18-2017, 04:08 AM
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Week 3 flower check-in. Well, I finally have something that could be recognized as a bud. Have two very different pheno's. One is showing leaf patterns that look very hybrid, light green, but over all growth pattern is looking very indica; while the other one has very indica looking leaves, dark green, and is stretching like a bitch.

Now for what I can actually call bud porn! This is the light green plants, With the hybrid looking leaves.


This is the dark green, with the more indica looking leaves. These buds are also quite a bit larger, but the stretch is going to be a problem though.
Old 04-25-2017, 02:52 AM
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Not a lot to report, just working on flowering and it looks like stretch has slowed down. Just a bit of tip burn, which is probably due to adding liquid KoolBloom and upping the PPMs to around 1100.

Here is a look at the canopy, and you can see the leaves reaching for the light. Note that the leaves are not yellow, just a poor picture; Some of the oldest leaves are getting a little blotchy, but nothing that worries me though.


no post would be complete without a little bud porn, they have really started to put on a lot more frost this last week.
Old 05-01-2017, 12:35 AM
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Looks good! How are they smelling?
Old 05-01-2017, 03:59 AM
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Thanks Brown Trout, I'm a little less than proud of this run, but I committed to documenting it. These plants have put up with a great deal of shit, and haven't died yet, I have to respect them for that, but I'm a little disappointed with how small the buds are. At the tail end of week 5, and I was hoping for them to double in size, at least, but I don't think they are going to do it. As for the smell, it is rather citrus smelling, more lemon than skunk. Rather tame smelling, I was hoping for some really raunchy skunk. Well here is my attempt at some bud porn, lot better pic quality after tweaking some settings on the camera.



Here is a picture for size reference, kind of sad :(



I think the quality will be decent, but yield is going to blow... but then again that might be due to some of the attempts to kill them, mostly with very low temps.
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Hey OP. They’re looking really good. So you’re finding the same nose on all of them - even the squat ones? In ’05 I grew Reef’s G-SUS (G-13 x Godbud) and it was some of the stinkiest I’ve ever grown. I was hoping you’d find some skunk stink too. Good luck going forward!
Old 05-09-2017, 06:24 AM
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Well the mystery was solved this week. I was wondering why the buds were not putting out new pistils, and the plants weren't really growing/feeding/drinking. Due to neglect and a cheep ass yellow PH pen, I discovered that the plants had been being subjected to a PH under 4. I corrected the PH issues, and they are now putting out new pistils, and seem to be drinking/feeding again. I don't know if to put this one into the stupid or the neglect column. Here is an over all pic, it is kind of hard to see, but you can somewhat see the 4 different growth patterns. I've got to say that the Jordan of the Island seeds were pretty far from what I would consider stable. Still not ready to kick them to the curb, just got to see how things end up. But I am on the hunt for some new genetics.

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