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Old 06-04-2012, 07:08 PM #1
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1200W tent SCROG: Noob needs a hand

Hey guys, this is my second indoorrun so far and i'm in need of mentoring.
Equipment: Homebox XXL(2,4mx 1,2mx 2m),
2 600W Phillips magnetic ballasts, shitty secondhand reflectors, HPS
400cbm exhaust+ Filter, going to a silencer and then out the boxed cellar-window
Passive, filtered intake
Temperature/Humidity: 27°C/ 50-60% RH day,20°C/ 50% RH night
2x 45cbm circulation fans
4l pots (soil), natural mulch: mixture of dutch white clover, persian clover, red clover
GHE Floranova onepart fertilizer+ AN Rhinoskin
Plants are cuttings from my first run, Female Seeds: Superskunk, Easy Sativa, KC Brains KC33(feminized).

During the next few weeks i'll get a bigger, temperature-controlled exhaust-fan with 800cbm, with matching filter of course. Also 2 Gavita triplestar reflectors and if temps are low enough a third 600W lamp for a total of 3 TripleStar.
Upgrading during the flowercycle is not what i would have preferred, but it simply turned out that way.
Now to the plants, as you can see they stretched quite a bit, especially considered that they are still in veg.
I made "bamboo spiders" so i can scrog them individually. I hope they work out for me, i would like to keep the possibility to take out single plants, especially for controlling hermies, which i had a slight problem with in the first run.(All mine fault, i don't want to blame the breeders. I got light leaks i didn't catch right away, in addition light,- and heat-stress because of failing equipment).
The bamboosticks have a height of 60cm, 4 arms of 35cm each.
Now i have two questions for the experts: Should i flip to 12/12 or veg a bit longer until the canopy is more filled? Last run they stretched heavily...so maybe i can fill the scrog-canopy with the stretch?
As you can see, there are two runts/small plants in there. Ironically cuttings of the same plant, a Superskunk, the one that gave me the most weight in my first run. Shall i keep them, or throw them outdoors?




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Old 06-04-2012, 11:59 PM #2
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Oh, i completly forgot:
I'm as i said inexperienced in indoor growing. My first run was a seed SOG, this second run should've been a SOG from cuttings. The plants you see above were originally destined to be mothers of these cuttings, didn't exactly work out as planned. And i never intended to make a SCROG.

tl;dr: Me noob, all help, tips and encouragement will be appreciated.
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I look forward to seeing how your bamboo spiders work out for you. I've thought about making individual stake screens that I could just jab into the ground and let em grow into em, but nothing quite like these spider thing things. As far as everything else you seem to have it in check and not in much need of anything in particular. Should be fun to watch. Oh how'd your kc33 turn out on your first run, did you like it?
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:02 AM #4
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Hi Mr. Bill! I sure hope the spiders work out. Should it turn out they haven't enough/ not long enough arms i can always "upgrade" them later.
And if they shouldn't work out i can always throw a normal scrognet over the plants and forego the ability to move single plants.
Concerning the KC33: i will make a short growreport about my first run and link it here. But in short: I was very happy with it, especially considered that i couldn't find a single report about feminized KC33 beforehand.
And i'm a huge fan of KC Brains and especially KC33 for outdoor/ guerilla.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:37 PM #5
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Little update. RH is dipping too low the last few days, 34-45%. Is this an effect of the summer temperatures outside the house? Temnperature in tent is stable...I ordered an humidifier.
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hermies, which i had a slight problem with in the first run.(All mine fault, i don't want to blame the breeders. I got light leaks i didn't catch right away, in addition light,- and heat-stress because of failing equipment).
I got a hermie in my first indoor-grow.
I blame heat-stress in the very beginning of the grow.


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hey man, good luck on your grow. is there anything specific you need help with that you know of? ive got a similar setup, 3 600s in a 5x10 tent. if you need anything, drop me a line.
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hey man, good luck on your grow. is there anything specific you need help with that you know of? ive got a similar setup, 3 600s in a 5x10 tent. if you need anything, drop me a line.
Your offer is much appreciated!
My biggest worry right now is that im unsure if i should flip to 12/12 now or wait some more time untill the canopy is more filled. Lightsout is in 90 min, i will make photos then and would really appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable than me could give me a hint.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:17 PM #9
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Here they are:






Or look in my album if you need bigger pictures.
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high man, i'd say they look ready to flip, especially if your vertical space is in any way limited, lots of variety's will stretch more than 3 times starting size.

...btw, have you considered going vertical? ...those plants look perfect to start a W.o.W, ...take a look at the thread in my sig, there should be a link to Marlo's original W.o.W. where i shamelessly stole his wonderful idea. ...if for some reason the link isn't there then do a search or just look in the vertical forum, something you should do in any case.

...here is a link to the silver hawaiian's thread where he is just killin' it with twin 400's.

2 x 400w stacked multi-strain gimmick with blumats & sexy soil

...keep in mind too that if you go vertical you can save the hundreds you were planning on spending on new reflectors and just use SOME of it to buy a better exhaust fan, something you're already planning anyway.

...if you're new to indoor growing you should really investigate the vertical forum man, it might change your world!

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