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Old 08-06-2008, 09:51 PM #1
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plug n play flip flop detailed DYI

parts list
4 x 4 x 4 power box $8.49 (home depot)


ballast lamp cord set $19.99 ( any hydro store )


female ballast plug $5.99 ( any hydro store ) x2


indoor digital wall switch $19.99 ( online ){any timer can be used the reason i used this one is im setting it up to run multi unit's on 1 timer



Heyco Straight-Thru Strain Relief Bushings make sure you get "for Round Cables" & you get the one made for YOUR project they make 100's of relief's with 100's of combo's thinkness of wire what type of wire along with thinkness of project box ect.... i ordered 3 time's to get the one's i needed

you need 3 for sjo 16/3 & 1 for sjt 18/3 (computer power cord)



1 NTE relay R04−11A30−120



1 computer power cord end cut off $free
6 blue ring terms
2 red ring terms

tool's needed
plyer DON'T WORK for the Strain Relief you need the Assembly Tool https://www.heyco.com/products/sec_03/3-25.html
drill with 3/4" bit or mounting hole punche https://www.heyco.com/products/sec_03/3-24.html
screwdriver
wire cutters
wire strippers
crimpers




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Old 08-06-2008, 09:53 PM #2
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step 1
drill 3 hole's 3/4" one on each side make sure you drill them above the relay all so why your at it in the middle of the bottem of this box theres a bump drill that flat as well or the relay dont set right..... this was the test box so one female plug was put in place to make sure every thing was OK... the 4th hole i drilled at 3/4" but i think that its to big im still waiting on the last strain relief the one i ordered was wrong


step 2
remove all screw's from relay and set in project box
if you look at the relay theres 4 set's of screw's the way the relay is facing in the pic the top is lamp 1 , the next set down is lamp 2 the 3rd set is 120volt coli, & 4th is ballast input.....
you want your lamp 1 & 2 female plugs coming in from the sides as the pic show's if you put them any where else it is a pain in the ass to wire


step 3
crimp all ring term's the blue ones is for the female plug's and the ballast cord


step 4
add the ballast cord & the 120volt coli wire's
the ballast cord should be put in on the side that its hooked up on the power cord will be added on top


step 5
brake out that screw driver again and go to town.......
all the white wires go on one side and all the black's go on the other just make sure you do one item at a time ie lamp 1 do your white then black then move to lamp 2 add both wire's then to your power cord (120volt coli) and last the ballast load..... after all the white/blacks wire's are screwed down your left with 4 green wires...... you can do a 2 things here
1. wire nut and black tape
2. buy a ground bar and screw it in the box
im going to pick #2 i just have not went to home depot to pick it up all add pic of that asap...


step 6 holding down the relay..... i have not yet got this far i was thinking of glue as i dont want screw's hanging out the bottem... again i will post this once its done....
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:55 PM #3
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i have burned contact points on the relays used so for now on i shut the power down to my ballast befor i flip the load here is my timer settings

flip flop on/off timer settings
11:58 ballast off
11:59 flop switch (timer "on")
12:00 ballast on
23:58 ballast off
23:59 flop switch (timer "off")
24:00 ballast on
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:05 PM #4
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saved for multi ballast timer dyi
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:06 PM #5
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Hey 00420,

Nice to see you posting those cool threads of yours. Looking forward to the cool info and pictures. I hope your not working to hard. I know you might not want to hear me ask you this, but are you going to update the DIY Coli thread anytime soon?

Thanks for the cool threads.
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Hey 00420,

Nice to see you posting those cool threads of yours. Looking forward to the cool info and pictures. I hope your not working to hard. I know you might not want to hear me ask you this, but are you going to update the DIY Coli thread anytime soon?

Thanks for the cool threads.
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thx BG i dont mind any ? asked hehe... yes i will get to that hopefully it will be soon it was kinda put on the back burner for the time being it's OD season here in nocal
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thx BG i dont mind any ? asked hehe... yes i will get to that hopefully it will be soon it was kinda put on the back burner for the time being it's OD season here in nocal

No worries, just loved watching that thread. Man, your knocking this unit out pretty fast. I'm thinking about doing something along these lines. Something to split up about 3600 watts. Thanks for sharing your info and time with us. Good luck with the OD crop. I know you'll be very busy with it.
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:45 AM #8
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No worries, just loved watching that thread. Man, your knocking this unit out pretty fast. I'm thinking about doing something along these lines. Something to split up about 3600 watts. Thanks for sharing your info and time with us. Good luck with the OD crop. I know you'll be very busy with it.
Take care,
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i have played with flip flops for about 3 yr's now the first one's worked fine but i hated cutting or rewiring my hood's most the one's i built up tell now where 4-8-12 lights but once i thought about using the female ballast plugs and other things that come into play...(like ballast to hood max of 30 feet...) i thought wow if i add a 15 foot cord set to the flip flop then a 2nd cord set from hood to flop we are at are max & also this could be over looked if just wiring it from scratch why not keep it to manufacture spec wire's and make it plug n play to ballast/hood when i cut the end off the cord set to the flop i chop'd off about a foot to make up for whats in the flop it self.... and when there wired as one unit it is much less confusing on set up of the room all the units can still be ran off 1 timer this can easyly be done with sunsys cord's as well. it cost just about $10 more a unit for singles but in my eye's is worth every penny when it come's to setting up 4+ a 4 light unit is not bad but once you get over that its a pain in da rear.....

im pretty much done with this other then waiting on the tool to set the strain reliefs plyer's just dont work man let me tell you hahaha it took damn near 3 hr's to get that one in and when it went it's not setting right cuz i bent the shit out of the side i even tryed a 2nd one and gave up after about 2 hr's...
i will pick up the grounding bar today and glue the relay down other then that i will go over the thread and add as much detail as i can and a nice wiregram
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Old 08-09-2008, 08:39 PM #9
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Flip internal heat

The relay used for a flip gets very warm, about 40 to 50 degrees Celcius (110 to 120 degrees Fahrenheit). The relay gets warm when the coil is energized for the 12 hour on cycle. I suggest drilling some small vent holes in the top and bottom to allow air flow. Flips with several relays will get very warm, an internal fan should be installed if you're going to install 4 or more relays.

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If you can't see any posts from DB2004, it's because of a couple cry babies here. If you want, you can post messages to be for him.

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