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delphi773 · 02-25-2010, 09:13 PM

Great Thread....Great Thread.....Great Thread

Rule # 1 in life: Don't Talk To Cops!

I learned this the hard way when at age 19 I was detained for a semi-serious offense. Being that this was my first encounter with LEO I was scared shitless and although I did not snitch and never would have, I did give them a written confession. This was of course after hours of interrogation in which they threatened me with 10 years in jail and the pleasures of being someones bitch and eating their cock-meat sandwiches all day. Needless to say due to my folding to their pressure and handing them over a written confession I got hit with the FULLEST extent of the law and a very harsh penalty (felony conviction) even though they promised to go easy on me and "talk to the judge/DA for me", this is all bull shit, they WILL NOT HELP YOU IN ANYWAY. The real slap in the face came when my attorney told me he could have, "without a doubt", gotten all the charges dropped or converted to misdemeanor offenses due to clear improper search and seizure. The cops knew that based on how they busted me, and the fact they searched with no warrant, that they had to get a confession in order to convict, that is why I was interrogated for over 6 hours for something that did not involve any violence, robbery, or crime against another.

Long story short is they promised me all kinds of BULLSHIT and it was all lies at the end of the day I still was convicted for three felony counts, they still confiscated my vehicle ($12,000 loan that was still outstanding), and all my cash (approx $4000), plus harassed my family and my girlfriend (in which they detained as well and used against me to gain a confession).

I had to learn the hard way but I guarantee you one thing, NEVER AGAIN.

Please burn these words into your brains:

"I DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH, I AM GOING TO REMAIN SILENT, I WANT TO SEE AN ATTORNEY"

These three phrases will save your ass on some level every time no matter the crime, AMEN!

bud lover · 03-20-2010, 01:50 AM

youve got to watch this video clip it shows exactly what the police are like, had this guy not known the law they would have shafted him.
the part im on about is at about 5:50 into it but watch it all it just shows whats going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4b0n...eature=related

hkush · 03-20-2010, 08:54 PM

Watch COPS for great pointers on what not to do. Party Heat is good too. For instance in yesterday's episode a guy on a boat in the middle of lake Havasu was asked to take a sobriety test (breathalyzer). He wasn't noticeably drunk, but refused the test. After several tries by the cop to convince him to do it or he'd be arrested, taken to Needles CA. and get blood taken he still refused. I'm not sure how far Needles is, but its a lot farther than the police boat, and time is your friend.

He did make one mistake by telling the cop he had a beer that day. Should have politely refused to answer that question. Its none of a cops business if or when you have ever drank liquor. You don't answer with "no", you answer with, "Don't ask me any questions". There's a big difference between refusing to answer and lying.

04-14-2010, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bud lover

youve got to watch this video clip it shows exactly what the police are like, had this guy not known the law they would have shafted him.
the part im on about is at about 5:50 into it but watch it all it just shows whats going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4b0n...eature=related

I just want to thank you for posting that very informative and it made my day.

Ty_Kaycha · 04-29-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JJScorpio

...The best advice that I, or any Lawyer will give you is to keep your mouth shut. You have that right. USE IT...

Great thread & great advice! Too many people are too quick to give up their rights. When in doubt, shut up until you talk to your lawyer!

Being Innocent or Not Guilty doesn't matter, things & words can easily be twisted to look bad for you. I've had to learn this lesson the hard way!!!

Normlfightr · 05-27-2010, 07:24 PM

question- I got a buddy who just got in some trouble in a small town. Im telling him to lie to his lawyer and tell him hes innocent. is this good advice? I dont trust lawyers, especially in small towns, and I dont see why they would need to know anything other than the evidence brought against you and that your innocent, to make a good defense.

LiLWaynE · 06-27-2010, 02:28 PM

tequila_sunrise · 07-07-2010, 08:22 AM

so glad I read this thread. got some real great info out of the videos and discussions!

Cheerful · 07-07-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by trademanny

Folks, if you read every thread in this forum and search on everything, you MUST watch this video. It is a spectacular presentation on your rights and gives you great insight on how your rights work and how police exploit them.

Also, don't bother with the torrent, watch it here online:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02514885833865 -- James Duane "never talk to the police"

Also, watch this too -- this is part 2, given by a police officer that watched the previous presentation. Another GREAT video:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15912&q=&hl=en -- Officer George Bruch "james duane is right" ;-)

For me, watching these videos was a LIFE-CHANGING EVENT. I watched Part 1 again right after Part 2, there is so much info given. Even now thinking back on it, I feel like I got kicked in the gut, i was so horrified at the heretofore "ignorant bliss" I had been living under. PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEOS!!

StacksOnDeck · 07-15-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonderon

If you know how to work with bittorrents then this is the best video on the topic I've ever seen. Very good info posted here but this guy goes a bit more in depth. Wish I could just post the vid here, but sorry you gotta go get it for yourself but I am betting you'll be happy you did! I use Utorrent to dl from PB.

How to Talk to the Police
by Prof. James Duane

https://thepiratebay.org/tor/4190724/...es_Duane_(XviD)

Main points:
In praise of the fifth Amendment right to not be a witness against yourself.

Why I am proud to admit that I will never talk to any police officer.

great great great videos..

03-20-2010, 01:50 AM	#82
bud lover Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: north west england Posts: 61	youve got to watch this video clip it shows exactly what the police are like, had this guy not known the law they would have shafted him. the part im on about is at about 5:50 into it but watch it all it just shows whats going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4b0n...eature=related __________________ All my posts are fictitious and i only write what the voices in my head tell me to..... so after 20years of smoking weed does this make me a qualified skyhighatrist
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tequila_sunrise Ordained Dudeist Priest Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: A Medical Friendly State Posts: 320	so glad I read this thread. got some real great info out of the videos and discussions! __________________ "I reallly want one of those "sheep dog" looking dogs with a "handle bar" moustache....... forgot what they are called." - yummybud DR80 NORCAL Pineapple SCROG (Finished) r.i.p LC
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02-25-2010, 09:13 PM	#81
delphi773 New Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cali Baby Posts: 5	Great Thread....Great Thread.....Great Thread Rule # 1 in life: Don't Talk To Cops! I learned this the hard way when at age 19 I was detained for a semi-serious offense. Being that this was my first encounter with LEO I was scared shitless and although I did not snitch and never would have, I did give them a written confession. This was of course after hours of interrogation in which they threatened me with 10 years in jail and the pleasures of being someones bitch and eating their cock-meat sandwiches all day. Needless to say due to my folding to their pressure and handing them over a written confession I got hit with the FULLEST extent of the law and a very harsh penalty (felony conviction) even though they promised to go easy on me and "talk to the judge/DA for me", this is all bull shit, they WILL NOT HELP YOU IN ANYWAY. The real slap in the face came when my attorney told me he could have, "without a doubt", gotten all the charges dropped or converted to misdemeanor offenses due to clear improper search and seizure. The cops knew that based on how they busted me, and the fact they searched with no warrant, that they had to get a confession in order to convict, that is why I was interrogated for over 6 hours for something that did not involve any violence, robbery, or crime against another. Long story short is they promised me all kinds of BULLSHIT and it was all lies at the end of the day I still was convicted for three felony counts, they still confiscated my vehicle ($12,000 loan that was still outstanding), and all my cash (approx $4000), plus harassed my family and my girlfriend (in which they detained as well and used against me to gain a confession). I had to learn the hard way but I guarantee you one thing, NEVER AGAIN. Please burn these words into your brains: "I DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH, I AM GOING TO REMAIN SILENT, I WANT TO SEE AN ATTORNEY" These three phrases will save your ass on some level every time no matter the crime, AMEN!
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03-20-2010, 08:54 PM	#83
hkush Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: 1060 West Addison Posts: 279	Watch COPS for great pointers on what not to do. Party Heat is good too. For instance in yesterday's episode a guy on a boat in the middle of lake Havasu was asked to take a sobriety test (breathalyzer). He wasn't noticeably drunk, but refused the test. After several tries by the cop to convince him to do it or he'd be arrested, taken to Needles CA. and get blood taken he still refused. I'm not sure how far Needles is, but its a lot farther than the police boat, and time is your friend. He did make one mistake by telling the cop he had a beer that day. Should have politely refused to answer that question. Its none of a cops business if or when you have ever drank liquor. You don't answer with "no", you answer with, "Don't ask me any questions". There's a big difference between refusing to answer and lying.
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05-27-2010, 07:24 PM	#86
Normlfightr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 66	question- I got a buddy who just got in some trouble in a small town. Im telling him to lie to his lawyer and tell him hes innocent. is this good advice? I dont trust lawyers, especially in small towns, and I dont see why they would need to know anything other than the evidence brought against you and that your innocent, to make a good defense.
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