You have the right to remain silent - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

JJScorpio · #1 07-17-2008, 01:05 PM

Getting arrested is a growers worst nightmare, and anyone else for that matter. What you do and say at that time can make a big difference in whether you lose your freedom.

The best advice that I, or any Lawyer will give you is to keep your mouth shut. You have that right. USE IT.

The police may tell you that if you cooperate things will go easier on you. They will tell you anything to get information from you. Cops are trained to do this. Don't fall for it. Don't do anything until you have had a chance to speak with a Lawyer. Ninety nine times out of a hundred you will do nothing but hang yourself and anyone else that may be involved. Don't buy any stories the cops tell you. Your best chance at beating any charges is to politely tell the arresting officer that you wish to excercise your right to remain silent until you can speak with a Lawyer. If you can't afford a Lawyer the Judge will appoint one to speak with you. You may have to spend overnight in jail, but it's well worth not putting yourself behind bars for a much longer period of time.

If you're only being questioned, and haven't been arrested, keep your mouth shut. The rules are the same. By talking, all you will do is talk yourself into being arrested. Cops have a way of making people think that by cooperating, they will be better off. They will twist anything you might say into what they want it to mean. You need to keep your mouth shut and say nothing. It may be hard, but by preparing yourself ahead of time you can save yourself a whole lot of grief. Remember, be polite and tell the Officers or Detectives you wish to say nothing......

binaryfission · #2 07-17-2008, 03:18 PM

if u haven't been arrested, do u actually have to go in for questioning? if so couldn't u say that ur will wait till ur lawyer arrives and go with him? there wouldn't be any reason to actually go with the cops.

My personal rule is, if ur not arresting me then why can't i go home?? Because even if ur on the side of the road, before the cuffs are on, if he pulls u out and u deny the search, don't say a word after. remember that if u admit in any way to knowing contraband is in ur possession u make ur life and ur lawyers much more difficult.

right or am i crazy??

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JJScorpio again.

PEACE OUT

oh and this is the most useful sticky on the site IMO.

JJScorpio · #3 07-17-2008, 03:32 PM

That's one of the biggest misconceptions there is. You do not have to go with a police officer unless you are being placed under arrest.

Wonderon · #4 07-17-2008, 03:45 PM

If you know how to work with bittorrents then this is the best video on the topic I've ever seen. Very good info posted here but this guy goes a bit more in depth. Wish I could just post the vid here, but sorry you gotta go get it for yourself but I am betting you'll be happy you did! I use Utorrent to dl from PB.

How to Talk to the Police
by Prof. James Duane

https://thepiratebay.org/tor/4190724/How_to_talk_to_the_Police_by_P rof._James_Duane_(XviD)

Main points:
In praise of the fifth Amendment right to not be a witness against yourself.

Why I am proud to admit that I will never talk to any police officer.

Mr. Bongjangles · #5 07-17-2008, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJScorpio

That's one of the biggest misconceptions there is. You do not have to go with a police officer unless you are being placed under arrest.

Oh yeah. Here's a line for everyone (in the usa at least) to tuck away just in case:

"Officer, am I free to go?"

If the answer is anything other than "no" get the heck out of there!

Also, you don't have to answer the door if the police stop by to chat!! All you are doing is giving them the opportunity to lie and say they smell pot, thus giving them access to your place, warrant free.

Avoid that discussion in the first place, as they aren't there to ask about your recipe for Apple Brown Betty!

Great thread JJ, hope you don't mind the extra commentary.

youngdro · #6 07-17-2008, 07:22 PM

when i was 18 my mom let a cop in the house.

that was the first mistake. NEVER let a cop inside. either talk through the door, open a window, or walk outside and close the door behind you. or just dont go near the door at all and let them knock as much as they want.

once the cop was inside he asks my mother to get me. i crawl out of bed with a hang over and he tells me that i "NEED" to go with him. stupid me.

some kid started a fight with me and i split his head open. he went to the ER and the cops asked him what happened. he snitched after starting the fight.

i end up in the questioning room and i admit the entire thing. they arrest me. it went to court and it was dismissed ASAP cause there was no proof i did anything wrong except defend myself and do a damn good job.

spent a night in jail. wasted 750 bucks on bail. 10% of the 7,500.

i could have avoided this whole fucked up situation by doing a number of things.
ONE of them would have been staying silent.

the cops LIED to me saying they would tell the judge that i wasnt cooperating, and they would ask for the highest sentence possible, and if i waste their time im gona be in jail being someones bitch blah blah blah.

so yeah. just keep in mind cops lie lie lie. keep silent. they cant throw the book at you for being silent.

accessndx · #7 07-17-2008, 07:49 PM

JJ: excellent thread. Very good idea. Truly altruistic....some + rep. for your efforts.

Purkle · #8 07-17-2008, 08:11 PM

Nice point about staying silent. Police love to twist the words up!!

trademanny · #9 07-18-2008, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderon

If you know how to work with bittorrents then this is the best video on the topic I've ever seen. Very good info posted here but this guy goes a bit more in depth. Wish I could just post the vid here, but sorry you gotta go get it for yourself but I am betting you'll be happy you did! I use Utorrent to dl from PB.

How to Talk to the Police
by Prof. James Duane

https://thepiratebay.org/tor/4190724/How_to_talk_to_the_Police_by_P rof._James_Duane_(XviD)

Main points:
In praise of the fifth Amendment right to not be a witness against yourself.

Why I am proud to admit that I will never talk to any police officer.

Folks, if you read every thread in this forum and search on everything, you MUST watch this video. It is a spectacular presentation on your rights and gives you great insight on how your rights work and how police exploit them.

Also, don't bother with the torrent, watch it here online:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02514885833865 -- James Duane "never talk to the police"

Also, watch this too -- this is part 2, given by a police officer that watched the previous presentation. Another GREAT video:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15912&q=&hl=en -- Officer George Bruch "james duane is right" ;-)

Wonderon · #10 07-18-2008, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trademanny

Folks, if you read every thread in this forum and search on everything, you MUST watch this video. It is a spectacular presentation on your rights and gives you great insight on how your rights work and how police exploit them.

Also, don't bother with the torrent, watch it here online:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...02514885833865 -- James Duane "never talk to the police"

Also, watch this too -- this is part 2, given by a police officer that watched the previous presentation. Another GREAT video:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15912&q=&hl=en -- Officer George Bruch "james duane is right" ;-)

Props for the links to the vids, I didn't know about them, only posted the torrent link cause thats where I found it. The torrent is both of the files in one for anyone interested in saving the video. Def, worth watching and saving IMO.