I posted some pics of the Himalayan Gold over at GHS vendor forum, and francho tuned in and recommended that I keep pouring on the nitrogen into flowering as the "long branches would need it".

Believe me, I know cannabis is a high nitrogen plant and I shovel it on in big heavy frequent doses that I know from looking at the pics on this site, would scare the hell out of most of the growers here, But ive always drawn back when flowers appear, believing that continuing massive doses would increase leaf formation, stretch the buds and reduce potency.

I'm needin some input here guys. What do you think about the recommendation of continuing high nitro doses on into flowering? I aim to follow francho's recommendations ,but with clear trepidity as it goes against what I thought I new.




The feeding regimen for this plant...



has been 1 heaping teaspoon of 46-0-0, combined with 1 heaping tsp of Miracle Grow per gallon of water per week.



Continue that into flowering? I need your thoughts here folks

I dont think i would mess with it, i mean why? the plant is obviously doing very well, and unless you have a clone to do comparison test how will you even know if it made a diffrence? go with your gut, has heavy nitrogen ever done good things for you in budding? not for me.

[fishheadbob]

I'm with you , SB. Seems to me once you get into flowering the need for N should be decreasing since you're no longer going for lush bushiness. Even with a quick releaser like urea some residual nitrogen will still be hanging around kinda banked in the soil, but I'd switch to a little P + k to finish those babies, maybe a fert with a lot of trace minerals to ward off any bizarre deficiencies waiting for their chance.
I don't know what's in Miracle Grow, maybe enuf P+K to do the trick: maybe the trace elements that may not even be needed; as always, read the label.

Bushiness ? The Prez? As in , yes your Bushiness.

[little j]

i hear ya. i got 20-8-8 that says 1 tsp for every 5gal. i put i tsp for every 2liter bottle every weekend every plant. my plants love it. buuut. later. from what i hear it is best to put on the k. i got strawberry fert which is 12-12-36. ive been asking around for thoughts on this strawberry fert but have got little response. try it this year. keep dumping high nitro on a plant and see. its very hard to say. nitro hanging around like fishhead said. i believe it. lots of nitro in my fan leaves. i believe it. 12-12-36 will be good enough for all things at that time of year. i hope so. pick a plant and try to kill it. hahha. just jokin but what else can we do to learn? thanks little j.

[Ganico]

I thought the point of cutting back on the N and increasing the P and K was for flower production rather than vegetive growth?

All I know is you don't wanna pump sativas with a lot of N during flower, haha

[Wooden Eye]

When Hydrasupplys hear about miracle grow they laugh at your face untill you laugh back in theirs.most of the sh!t they pushonu old stock they want gone.

[B.C.]

I look at it like this, indoors a plant will stretch quite abit cuz the light gets cut back all at once, so they stretch all at once, and it will need the extra N and *K to build stem and stalk. Outdoors it happens alot slower, so the need for extra N and K isn't as great. I think I'd be more worried about salt build up changing the ph around the plant and it not bein able ta feed right alil later down the road in flower. All that N has ta be chelated ta somethin, and that would prolly be a salt of some kind, same with the miricle grow. Anyhoo, bottom line, once they've set bud they're not gonna be usein near as much N. Hell you know this stuff Silverback, you sure you aint jus joshin us? lol Later bud, good luck. BC

[PazVerdeRadical]

silverback, whatever you do, do not keep feeding the flowering plant the same ammount of nitrogen as you fed it while it was vegetating. plants in flower do need nitrogen, sure, but not in the same ammounts as a vegetating plant, mainly because the structural part of the plant (for lack of a better term) has been mostly established, the development is now of fruits/flowers rather than general plant-mass, and what we have observed is that for the optimal production of fruit/flower, aiding the feeding with extra Potassium is what's up... perhaps try adding a bit more nitrogen to see what happens, but not as much... and yes, you freaked me out with that picture of blue dust

Paz

I hear ya Brad, ive never seen any positive effects from high nitro in flower - fishead, little j, Ganico, Wooden Eye, thats what Ive believed for years now. Its comforting to hear you guys confirm it. The last how -to book I read on cannabis was in the 70's and i thought maybe there was something new that i didn't know. In fact, i go with something like a 12-40-5 or 15-30-10 during OD flower, not the 30-10-10 or so that i use in veg.
Mel franks used to preach that too much nitro in flower decreases potency. I still believe him but us old guys can become outdated.

You're right B.C. It is somehting i know, or at least i thought I knew. Check the thread man in GHS, he said it. Honestly, ive always enjoyed just a slight Nitro deficiency during late flower as it tends to yellow the plant just a tiny bit and levels out that black appearance that indica buds can take on in the last week or so.

Hey up Silver, I think everyone here got it right,adding N in flower will boost N levels in the bud & seed. This could be good if your making breadmaking flour with the seeds lol. Two points I think the smaller bud leaves & stalks get stronger & thicker texture, & will add a bonfire like bouquet to the flavour, not nice. Second high Nitrogen in the bud will WITHOUT DOUBT increase the chances of mould. Fungus needs/loves Nitrogen. Lush green plants at a time of year when everything is dying back & starting to rot = mouldtarget.