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cough_cough_eer · 07-02-2008, 04:13 PM

I hope its ok ask here since apples are technically fruit, but I have an apple tree and never expected to actually see any fruit appear on it.(I only have one

) I bought it as a mystery tree at the dollar store ( had no label, but knew it had to be red/green apple , peach or pear ) But anyway. I need to know what kind of insecticide to use on it to keep the bugs/birds from eating the apples, but safe for human consumption...could I put some neem oil into a sprayer??? uuummmmmm

Great fforum!!!!! thanks in advance

Mrs.Babba · 07-02-2008, 04:21 PM

hey cough...we have a apple tree and the birds and such leave it alone, I have more trouble with them eating the cherries then apples but I would think neem would be fine, also check with your local nursery, they prolly know what will work good.

good luck, can ya show us pic of the tree?....I dont know what kind ours is either.

Mrs.Greengenes · 07-03-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cough_cough_eer

I hope its ok ask here since apples are technically fruit, but I have an apple tree and never expected to actually see any fruit appear on it.(I only have one

) I bought it as a mystery tree at the dollar store. uuummmmmm

Great fforum!!!!! thanks in advance

I wish they had mystery fruit trees at our dollar store. lol .. I would get a bunch.. I love surprises.

When we lived in the mountains I grew two apple trees from seed that never made it more that 2 feet tall before dying from the temp. changes. I had taken 2 seeds out of an apple I was eating and stuck them in one of my house plants in the window. One day Dr. Bud walked by and said .. "did you put pot seeds in the window?" by then I had forgot I had shoved them in the plants. I said no honey why as he pointed out my sprouts. I laughed and told him they were apples. His friend told me that they would never grow into apples that would be edible. That they would be small and too sour to eat? Anyone know the truth to this? I never got a chance to grow them out.

MrFista · 07-04-2008, 04:09 AM

Most fruit trees are grafted these days, but also, most apples will grow true to type.

The grafting is to marry a hardy disease and pest resistant rootstock to a good harvesting fruitstock.

Apples from seed do run all sorts of risks but it's not impossible to get good apples from seed. Granny smiths were 'discovered', being a wild stock from seed once.

If you want to grow apples in your climate, see what local growers are growing and get seed off the best apple off the best tree.

There are over 3000 varieties - I gaurantee LOTS of them are not suited to various climates.

cough_cough_eer · 07-04-2008, 05:10 AM

I didn't grow this one from seed, I guess it would have been a clone...Gonna go to a nursery today to see about it, hopefully they are open. thanks for replying y'all, maybe I'll actually get to eat some apples,

Mrs.Babba · 07-04-2008, 12:28 PM

nice looking tree there cough, hopefully you'll get some fruit offa her

DrBudGreengenes · 07-04-2008, 05:13 PM

[quote=MrFista]Most fruit trees are grafted these days, but also, most apples will grow true to type.

MrFista.....
like I explained to Mrs's Bud at the time. Apples you get at the store will NOT grow true to type....Bcuz of the Pollen used to make the apple.
In the Orchard Bizz you use what are called "Pollinators" to insure a good even apple crop....the strain most used it a VERY hardy apple that puts out 10's of thousand of fruit per tree...and also a Huge cloud of pollen the fruit are the size of a Grape...and taste like hell deer will not even eat them.

But thats what they are there for just there pollen. so the other trees will set fruit

Still prolly make a nice tree....but the fruit will prolly be lil' & bitter like dad his genes R strong

DrBudGreengenes · 07-05-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cough_cough_eer

I didn't grow this one from seed, I guess it would have been a clone...Gonna go to a nursery today to see about it, hopefully they are open. thanks for replying y'all, maybe I'll actually get to eat some apples,

Sweet dollar store tree....she is pretty

maryjohn · 06-11-2009, 02:21 PM

my father worked for years in the apple business, and always told me apples do not grow true to type. You can wind up with just about anything when you plant apple seeds. Modern varieties are freaks of nature that need grafting in order to breed true.

cough_cough_eer · 06-11-2009, 04:04 PM

Birds and squirrel's got them all...explains that really fat squirrel that eats the bird food tho..

07-02-2008, 04:13 PM	#1
cough_cough_eer Anita Bonghitt Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,937	apple tree I hope its ok ask here since apples are technically fruit, but I have an apple tree and never expected to actually see any fruit appear on it.(I only have one ) I bought it as a mystery tree at the dollar store ( had no label, but knew it had to be red/green apple , peach or pear ) But anyway. I need to know what kind of insecticide to use on it to keep the bugs/birds from eating the apples, but safe for human consumption...could I put some neem oil into a sprayer??? uuummmmmm Great fforum!!!!! thanks in advance __________________ ~The Avatar Thread~ Why is it that rich people are concidered eccentric and poor people are just wierd????
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Mrs.Babba THE CHIMNEY!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Real NorCal. Posts: 6,025	hey cough...we have a apple tree and the birds and such leave it alone, I have more trouble with them eating the cherries then apples but I would think neem would be fine, also check with your local nursery, they prolly know what will work good. good luck, can ya show us pic of the tree?....I dont know what kind ours is either. __________________ Be Good Humans..... "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they are." --Will Rogers
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07-04-2008, 04:09 AM	#4
MrFista Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,036	Most fruit trees are grafted these days, but also, most apples will grow true to type. The grafting is to marry a hardy disease and pest resistant rootstock to a good harvesting fruitstock. Apples from seed do run all sorts of risks but it's not impossible to get good apples from seed. Granny smiths were 'discovered', being a wild stock from seed once. If you want to grow apples in your climate, see what local growers are growing and get seed off the best apple off the best tree. There are over 3000 varieties - I gaurantee LOTS of them are not suited to various climates. __________________ I'm in it for the tomatoes. I been growing tomatoes for a long long time. Sometimes I get to thinking I know everything about tomatoes. My tomatoes make me completely delusional.
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07-04-2008, 05:10 AM	#5
cough_cough_eer Anita Bonghitt Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,937	here she is.........my 6.00 tree I didn't grow this one from seed, I guess it would have been a clone...Gonna go to a nursery today to see about it, hopefully they are open. thanks for replying y'all, maybe I'll actually get to eat some apples, __________________ ~The Avatar Thread~ Why is it that rich people are concidered eccentric and poor people are just wierd????
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Mrs.Babba THE CHIMNEY!! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Real NorCal. Posts: 6,025	nice looking tree there cough, hopefully you'll get some fruit offa her __________________ Be Good Humans..... "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they are." --Will Rogers
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DrBudGreengenes Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: "DarkStar Research Center"High on a Mountain Top..somewhere in the Pac.Northwest Posts: 861	[quote=MrFista]Most fruit trees are grafted these days, but also, most apples will grow true to type. MrFista..... like I explained to Mrs's Bud at the time. Apples you get at the store will NOT grow true to type....Bcuz of the Pollen used to make the apple. In the Orchard Bizz you use what are called "Pollinators" to insure a good even apple crop....the strain most used it a VERY hardy apple that puts out 10's of thousand of fruit per tree...and also a Huge cloud of pollen the fruit are the size of a Grape...and taste like hell deer will not even eat them. But thats what they are there for just there pollen. so the other trees will set fruit Still prolly make a nice tree....but the fruit will prolly be lil' & bitter like dad his genes R strong __________________ Dr. Bud Greengenes, Phd. in THC A.K.A "The Red-Eyed-Jedi" "He Is Your Friend, Your Partner, Your Defender, Your Dog.......You Are His Life, His Love, His Leader.....He Will Be Yours, Faithful, And True...To The Last Beat Of His Heart......You Owe It To Him To Be Worthy Of Such Devotion" ............... "Qui me amat.......Amet et Canus meum." Growin' MJ since 1978....When it was all "Bag-Seed" "I Do Because I Can, I Can Because I Want To, I Want To Because You Said I Couldn't" Kidz....."Just say NO to MariWanna" Always Grow real Marijuana....it Gets U High Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. Marijuana is not such a substance. Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically-active substances known to man. *DEA Administrative Law Judge, FL Young, 1988* Last edited by DrBudGreengenes; 07-05-2008 at 12:57 AM..
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06-11-2009, 02:21 PM	#9
maryjohn Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,160	my father worked for years in the apple business, and always told me apples do not grow true to type. You can wind up with just about anything when you plant apple seeds. Modern varieties are freaks of nature that need grafting in order to breed true.
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06-11-2009, 04:04 PM	#10
cough_cough_eer Anita Bonghitt Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,937	Birds and squirrel's got them all...explains that really fat squirrel that eats the bird food tho.. __________________ ~The Avatar Thread~ Why is it that rich people are concidered eccentric and poor people are just wierd????
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