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Old 06-22-2008, 07:36 AM #1
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Oldtimers Haze Soil Recipe Anyone?

I was hoping the boys at ace or one of our resident sativa experts could recommend a good soil mix for the ot haze i have a pack of 3fx6m i'm getting set up to do indoors and as i never had a plant that went 23 weeks i thought maybe the knowedge base here has some helpful advice on what soil mix is good for looong flowering sativas and any thing else you guys wanna throw in there that might be useful to know

planning on starting them into flower at about a 12 inches im looking to have between 6-7ft trees when finished am i right that they well stretch that much and will a 5 gal bucket be big enough to keep them from getting root bound

im no stranger to sativas but this seems to be in a bit different class so i want to make sure i do it right as i will be making seeds

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I was hoping the boys at ace or one of our resident sativa experts could recommend a good soil mix for the ot haze i have a pack of 3fx6m i'm getting set up to do indoors and as i never had a plant that went 23 weeks i thought maybe the knowedge base here has some helpful advice on what soil mix is good for looong flowering sativas and any thing else you guys wanna throw in there that might be useful to know

planning on starting them into flower at about a 12 inches im looking to have between 6-7ft trees when finished am i right that they well stretch that much and will a 5 gal bucket be big enough to keep them from getting root bound

im no stranger to sativas but this seems to be in a bit different class so i want to make sure i do it right as i will be making seeds

thanks in advance to everyone
Good day CannaDestroyer,

I dont think you'll get such stretching, oldtimer's haze line is slow to start flowering but node lenght is short/medium. A good tip we have commented previously, would be limit size pot (2 gal is enough) till they form budsites, then re pot them to final pot with plenty of good soil (3.5-5 gal with worm casting, guano in polm, etc ...).

It's easier to finish them with big pots and let them absorb naturaly nutrients from a rich soil than applying very frequently liquid fertilizers and limiting size pot till the end. Indeed, if they are planted in the grown with plenty sun, warm temps and water, they grow and grow without attentions.
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so when should i start them

thanks for the soil tips dubi maybe you could recommend a good height to start flowering so they end up around 6-7 ft tall keeping in mind they will be grown indoors
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:13 AM #4
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Look for a old article in homegrown magazine titled, 'ON THE TRAIL'. within this article lies a soil recipe called 'THE COSMIC BOOGIE' used by the guys responsible for the o haze in california. this soil recipe and the same quality sunshine should produce nice results..
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thanks for the soil tips dubi maybe you could recommend a good height to start flowering so they end up around 6-7 ft tall keeping in mind they will be grown indoors
Hello CannaDestroyer,

2-3 ft would be a good height to finish 6-7 ft mature haze plants. Personaly, I dont like to grow too much big sativa clones indoors, they like to branch and sometimes it's hard to light their lower branches. I prefer to grow medium sized sativa clones indoors but it's always a personal preference.

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Look for a old article in homegrown magazine titled, 'ON THE TRAIL'. within this article lies a soil recipe called 'THE COSMIC BOOGIE' used by the guys responsible for the o haze in california. this soil recipe and the same quality sunshine should produce nice results..
should be interesting to know the soil mix used by haze bros, any more info ingles?
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Here you go,

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bad quality pics but its the best i could do..

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Thank you very much jingles for scan and upload it, it's very apreciated. :smile:

Soil mix commented in the first page is complex and balanced. Im curious about the mushroon compost, it's not easy to find around here. Dolomite is interesting to stabilize ph in soil mix.

I'm using biodymamic concepts in my gardening for past 3-5 years. The day of germination, planting, fertilizing, pest prevention, harvest, etc ... is selected depending on moon and sun position. It's real beautiful and provides a deeper understanding of life reactions and plant cycles.
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This is the Haze Bros soil formula not Oldtimer's. The people from Homegrown came to Santa Cruz and interviewed me for the article, I gave them the soil formula. They never met the Haze Bros.
BTW, be careful about using redwood sawdust it sucks nitrogen until fully composted with a nitrogen source like rabbit shit.

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Old 07-10-2008, 01:22 AM #10
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This is the Haze Bros soil formula not Oldtimer's. The people from Homegrown came to Santa Cruz and interviewed me for the article, I gave them the soil formula. They never met the Haze Bros.
BTW, be careful about using redwood sawdust it sucks nitrogen until fully composted with a nitrogen source like rabbit shit.

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Welcome Sam,

Thanks a lot for share the old haze soil mix. Most of the components commented in the soil mix are not easy to find in my country or zone, but i'd like to replicate it here for a few haze outdoors plants this season.

Animal shits and all strong sources of macronutrients must be correctly composted before its use, or they can easily burn young plants.
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