[xOOx]

cool art!

waiting for more info on its history, try to get the back story!!

i know people think the piff grown with love might be even better, etc. that may be true, but you know i have a theory on that. i think it is what it is, no matter how its grown, stick it on your window sill, and 80 days later, it will kick your ass, etc. but we shall see. i know that after 7-10 days dry, it smokes as smooth as - and hits like 30 day cured bud, even while still a little damp and wet (just have to hold the flame to it to get it goin), and its funk kicking up a storm too, no cure to bring that out. smoking the dried fan leaves give me a little pick me uplifting buzz! i've noticed from a nice dry/cure that just makes the creeper effect come on a little bit quicker. the thc profile on this girl runs inside its veins, not just exposed visible in the trichomes, its the juice inside - even if you split the stem down the middle, theres white elmers like goo in there, that will send you to the moon if you qtip it out and smoke it! i think the strains that have tons of fan leaf trichs are more for hash making.

i wish ya luck mon

xoox

[barletta]

The NYC pif already has plenty of story lol. 20 yrs from now, the pif story may lead right back to ART and IC

[Chiefsmokingbud]

tag, interesting read

[OldPathBluSky]

Originally Posted by strained

...the group who discovered it how they discovered it etc.

I second this. It be cool to know the real story. Didn't you say you knew someone from the crew personally Art? Do you think he'll be willing to let you know about the true history? Best of luck right now brother, hopefully you'll have females.

OldPath

Keeping an eye on this one. Props for this art, gotta love that piff.

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

Originally Posted by OldPathBluSky

I second this. It be cool to know the real story. Didn't you say you knew someone from the crew personally Art? Do you think he'll be willing to let you know about the true history? Best of luck right now brother, hopefully you'll have females.

OldPath

Two words my friends. La Republica Dominica.

Dominicans have had a choke-hold on a certain niche in NY's marijuana market for MANY years. I do in fact personally know 2 growers of this strain. One of them is taking an offensive position and threating physical harm. He knows that the seeds are from his product and has DEMANDED that I stop immediatly. I made this thread last Monday the night before I attend the 2008 East Coast Nugs and Jugs event. There was a no cell phone policy at the party and I was there most of last week. So I just got these messages. Why don't you chime in? Still think this internet shit is BS? I'm sure everyone here would LOVE to hear what you have to say about WHY we can't all have these gentics. Most of us don't grow commercially and those that grow it for personal use probably have been growing and not purchasing marijuana for a long time. So how could this negativley affect your business?
I'm not trying to cop a plea homie. I've made it VERY clear to you. FUCK YA! Lucky for all these people that want this strain, I AM A G, and I'll deal with you in the real world. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. I just hope YOU make the right choice homie. This is historic and LONG OVERDUE. So if you think ONE person is going to stop this, you're BUGGIN!
And it is interesting to me that our other friend hasn't called me yet. Does he support this? I know you're reading this. So let me know if I have 1 or 2 enemies please.

The seedlings are doing GREAT! One was a little lazy and I propped him up with a toothpick. The stems will strengthen. I post some pics when they get a little bigger.

I'll be on the block tonight if you're looking for me!...

[DRorganic]

sounds like a lot of made up drama.all it looks like is plain old haze or pure sativa.

If i buy a bag of weed and ther is a seed or two in it then its mine and i would do what ever i wished i would grow it out give free clones,cross it make seeds spread it out.send it to some breeders in the uro market and say go at it.

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

I just typed another huge response only to have it lost by this BS posting system. You guys at IC should try and fix that. I've had it happen ALOT, and I'm sure it pisses of others...

I see a need to reveal certain things about myself so that everyone can have a good understanding.

I have been smoking marijuana for 12 years. Growing up in and around NYC, I was always the one with the best weed. I made it a point to be. Even those that sold would frequently ask me my opinion of thier product. This turned into a passion for growing, and now has become a need to stabilize this strain.

My knowledge of cultivation gained me access to certain circles in life that I would otherwise be denied. My first commercial grow was deep in the hood of Opa-Locka, a suburb of Miami. My business partner sold cocaine at a fraternity I would attend parties at. He saw me rolling up some Dutch Passion Blueberry I grew and questioned me about the smell. I gave him a nug and told him to try for himself. He called some kids in the frat to ask if I was still there, then returned to tell me the weed was so potent it made him vomit. He asked me where I got it and if I could hook him up with some. I told him I had very limited quantities because I had grown it. This peaked the man's intrest and he continued to question my knowledge of the grow. Impressed, he finally asked me if I would set up and grow in a 3 bedroom home he had access to that was vacant. Being at that time a personal grower, the idea was seductive, and I couldn't say no. Within one week we were spending $4000 on eqipment. I did 6 runs there. Cash flow began.

This is what gained the respect of certain individuals. I was courted several times in Miami to join a set and grow for them. I never did. I did get involved with transport. This is what strengthened my NY connections...

Miami to NY is a scary place to be.

It's like descending to Hell (NY) from Heaven (MIA) and I-95 N is purgatory. The closer you get to Hell, the more things heat up.

Anyway, my reputaion as a grower followed me wherever I went. A couple of Dominican growers who had heard about me asked to meet me. We kept in contact and dicussed grows. At some point in the course of chilling and drinking, I was professing my love the Uptown Haze and dude slipped. He said, "This haze ain't got a thing on what I crank out." My jaw dropped and we stared at eachother. The first thing I said was, "Let me get a cut." He cracked a smile like he'd been caught and said, "Chill, chill, homie. We'll talk. We'll talk." So we talked. I somehow ended up settling for moving the weight and getting the direct hook up from him (the grower) at a price that is infathomable. I inquried about the origin of these genetics to which he replied, "God has them down in Georgia. He's only give it out if you run it for him." He was reffering to the leader of DDP, not a higher power. I asked him, "What if I run a house for him? I'm down fa that." He looked at me seriously and said God wouldn't allow it, because I'm a white boy. I got flustered, hating when the people play the RACE card when it's convienient and knowing I was a more staunch individual than 90% of them.

That continued on for years. I played a sort of middle man, dishing off the Haze to an associate in Brooklyn. This guy was insrtucted (by me) to save any seeds he might find and give them to his friend, my brother.

I just recently asked him if he had any. He said he did indeed have 4 seeds. He gave them to my brother and upon inspection, I was pleased to say the least. All four of the seeds were large, dark, with a few stripes on them. One clearly has a hairline fracture in the shell. I germinated all four. The one that was cracked, wad cracked. And one of them didn't pop.

So from what I know, I can tell you that, IN MY OPINION, the Uptown Haze is a phenotype of some type of 100% haze that has been going for YEARS. Being that the seeds came from a room of clones, I would like to think that these are females but I'm not sure of the science...

That is that. I hope for those that know me personally, this doesn't change you opinion of me. I do not deal in ANY hard drugs of ANY kind now. My only concern is marijuana. And now, the preservation, stability, and availability of it.

You are now 100% in the know and up to date.

Now, I'm talking DIRECTLY to YOU. How'd ya like that???

~~ARTofMAKINGfire~~

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

Originally Posted by DRorganic

sounds like a lot of made up drama.all it looks like is plain old haze or pure sativa.

Honestly, I don't want to see BS like this on this thread. Clearly you have not had any experience with this herb. There are many respected people here who will attest to the fact that Uptown Haze can be compared to some of the finest smoke they've smoked. Please don't even respond to this. If you're not interested, leave the thread and make room for those who are!

Originally Posted by dan woody

If i buy a bag of weed and ther is a seed or two in it then its mine and i would do what ever i wished i would grow it out give free clones,cross it make seeds spread it out.send it to some breeders in the uro market and say go at it.

That is true. There are some other factors involved in this situation, but that's the idea. If they let a seed out of thier room, it's thier fault. They should've thought about that and broke up every nug looking for seeds! LOL.