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Old 05-06-2008, 01:05 PM #1
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Bid Early Autoflowering pheno and Non Autoflowering pheno

I got five bid early seeds as a freebee from seedbay.

3 of the 5 popped not sure what happened to the other two... i think at the time i was being lazzy n something happened to them either way... out of the 5 i got 3 out of the 3 i got 2 girls one of them is the auto pheno. from what i've read the auto pheno will start to auto when it gets root bound.. i have these plants currently in 20L trash cans. i will be transplanting them to 30L containers this week, then putting them outside in june...

the auto pheno i have pollinated with some automatic ak47 put out by lowlife.

i'm not sure if i will move the plant that is autoing outside or if i will just keep it inside... thats still up in the air... i wonder if i unbind the roots if it will keep auto flowering or if it will start to veg again... since its started n pollinated i really don't want to find out whats going to happen so i may just repot the one that is still defiantly in veg..

these plants have has such explosive growth i can completely understand why they say its nearly impossiable to keep a mother plant going indoors... i started some other seeds around the same time as these... its amazing how much faster the bid early grew in comparison to the other strains....

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This is the autoflowering pheno:


This is the non autoflowering pheno:
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This is really interesting. Looks like a good specimen for AF genetics.
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Old 05-06-2008, 05:15 PM #3
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Thanks for sharing farmer, those are some big girls ya got there! You made me realize I never posted my Biddy freebies. I popped them awhile back to celebrate magus winning awards at the (CC?) I too got 3/5 on these Biddy Early seeds. My seedlings sadly went unfed too long and these took the worst of it. They have been fed now and are greening up fast for how hungry they got. I hope to get these outside but we'll see. Hope ya don't mind if I show them. R. Motabonne
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Those look like they need much bigger pots using a much better soil mix. PM me and I'll give you an excellent basic soil-mix, that will work great for you.
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This is really interesting. Looks like a good specimen for AF genetics.
I had to use some pollen from an old krusty auto ak that i fished out of the trash... It looked like good pollen the plant was completely dry when it went into the trash soo.. Lets hope it works out *fingers crossed*

if nothing else i have some f2 auto ak giant pheno going soo i should have some pollen in about a month.. i wasent really expecting this bid to auto.. it just fell into my lap, perhaps gerrit can chime in with some more information about the auto pheno, i wonder if i could slow down the auto process by repotting it... i'm 1/2 tempted to give it a shot... i suppose it wouldn't really hurt the plant... i don't think it will revege it at least, just slow down the flowering process a bit maybe let the plant stretch a bit more... these auto triggers fascinate me that and photo sensitivity.. anyway.. i'm just ranting.. thanks for the comments :-)

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Hope ya don't mind if I show them.
Just the opposite , I'm glad to see you here :-)

I'd have to agree with madzing i'd put them in 5galon containers, i used BioBizz All-Mix soilmix right out of the bag no additives.. i think a couple times i dumped some canna nutriants on them i was feeding to some coco plants i had going.. just to make sure they were getting fed, but for the most part the biobizz all-mix right out of the bag has worked great for me with these.

i also gave them some cal-mag when watering them.. :-)

i hope yours turn out to be green giants too :-)
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I repotted the plants today, lets hope for the best :-)
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I repotted the plants today, lets hope for the best :-)
Thats great to hear, and not too soon In two weeks you will see a noticable difference. Please keep us updated wih pics.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:54 PM #8
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Hey StonedF, had you seen this?


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Hi Buddha,

The Biddy is not really an autoflower strain (i.e. you can not rely on it to flower within a certain time at all situations) its more that it is sensible to other factors beside short days to start flowering (age, rootbound, nutrient def. etc.).

It is pretty early and fast finishing so I'll expect that only a few will need till half Oct but most will be done before that time.

Its pretty mold resistant so unless you have a very bad autumn with daily showers they should do fine.

Potency is very good and the yield is ok (approx 300 gr p.p.)

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Got my Biddie's uppotted too.
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Hey StonedF, had you seen this?
yeah i think i have seen it in the past, i don't remember it exactly but i do remember the root bound part, thats why i was happy to find the auto flowering pheno.. your right, bid early really isn't an auto flower, but after crossing the pheno of bid early that has some type of auto flower trait with a true auto flower, i'm going to come closer to having auto flower offspring then if i just started with some random strain.

I'm not sure how many if any of the seeds will auto from this, but i do know there will be two auto flower triggers laced into the genetics. you could call this the poor mans way of making an auto flower or an easy way of making an auto flower or a couple other things, butwhat it all boils down to this pheno is a good candidate for making an auto flowering outdoor strain.

Hopefully the offspring will be taller then the auto ak while still retaining its high potency, sativa plant structure and auto flowering characteristics. While also retaining the high potency, sativa plant structure, explosive growth and mold resistance of biddy early :-)

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Got my Biddie's uppotted too.
thats great! there gona growin up n blowin :-)

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sorry about the hps glow but my speedflash is down.
i read this and was just wondering are you flowering now? reason i ask is you mentioned HPS glow..

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I don't think I have any autoflowerers as I let mine get too rootbound in 6" pots and didn't fert too long, they went pretty darn yellow. They are strting to really take off now, good crystal content too!
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