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Crookie Monster · 07-20-2007, 10:02 PM

Franco, here is your chance to show off the TW that you have (you have had waaay more than enough time to get your runs of TW going). This is not an argument thread or a "make fun of Franco/Greenhouse" thread so let it stay open and focused on the topic at hand.

(you may post your likes and dislikes about the strain TW as it is just a plant and it's butt won't be hurt by comments from experienced cultivators)

Trainwreck is highly over-cultivated, and doesn't rank among the scene as an elite among most people anymore. It has it's good attributes (fast flower, sparkly trichs, familiar smell), but the negatives far outweigh the positives. I smoke herb mainly for a "head change", TW gets me feeling zippy for about 1/4 the time that other varietes do. I grow the highest grade organic flavors and the last thing I need in my garden is a plant that will throw out tons of male flowers while still in late flower. Ask anyone who has ever grown the real deal "Arcata TW" and they'll let you know it is a true herm strain, tosses banannas like clockwork. The banannas are not sterile either, the drop plenty of viable pollen. Since you are planning a 'Trainwreck S1' seed release it is only fair to post up the mommy as we all know there are knock-offs out there. It seems redundant and a little behind the times to be pouring effort into such a lame clone which has already been released in S1 form years ago on the original auction websites, but take it for what it is (an opinion).

This is not a "dis on Greenhouse" thread, and I am not a troll (so don't even think of closing this thread). Franco.gh, I am wanting your honest opinion as to if you are sure that you have the arcata TW (which herms on time, everytime). And also I'm curious what else your friend in California was packing up for you to smoke...Trainwreck is bottom rung herb as far as a majority of people are concerned

Here's some pics of a perfectly done TW that isn't quite done yet and is blasting out nanners in a room where nothing else herms. No light leaks or stress of any kind, climate controlled room.

Comments/Opinions any1?

bluebublelove · 07-20-2007, 10:16 PM

"Trainwreck is bottom rung herb as far as a majority of people are concerned"

I don't think thats a very fair blanket statement....many well founded smokers across the u.s. would still consider trainwreck a nice, solid, well worth growing strain...thats not to say there aren't better buds in this world, but I wouldn't, by a longshot call it "bottom rung smoke".....this is a good thread idea nonetheless....I've not seen any of the greenhouse trainwreck before...looking forward to see what people with greenhouses gear bring to the table.

Crookie Monster · 07-20-2007, 10:23 PM

I could see how maybe a cash cropper might enjoy it, the random S1 seeds produced might add some weight lol. My pals and I do some serious large and small scale breeding, so a strain that will herm every time under even the best conditions will never ever be worth keeping around.

07-20-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crookie Monster

Trainwreck is bottom rung herb as far as a majority of people are concerned

not as far as i'm concerned. most people are just bottom rung growers. to properly grow a strain, you need to assess the plant's individual needs and go from there rather than just hitting them all with the same formula. trainwreck is a hermie strain for sure, though i havent seen a nanner outside with it. maybe it just doesnt take well to the indoors?

bluebublelove · 07-20-2007, 10:28 PM

I can understand your concern for the stock, in which, greenhouse made there selections from...and I can also understand your concern for keeping unwanted, surprise, pollen deposits out of your flower room if you are doing breeding. I was simply saying many people are often delighted by the smoke, taste and smell that a good trainwreck bud gives them...but like I said can see your issues in its stability.

Crookie Monster · 07-21-2007, 06:24 PM

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not as far as i'm concerned. most people are just bottom rung growers. to properly grow a strain, you need to assess the plant's individual needs and go from there rather than just hitting them all with the same formula.

I have grown nearly all the "elites" and TW is without a doubt bottom rung as far as my head is concerned. In fact, I could name several "top dog" icmaggers who would rather puff any other elite than TW. There's plenty of people out there who do like it though, and to each his own.

Europe may be just the market for S1 TW seeds, as they haven't been seeing it over and over and over and over again in various forms. If you've been growing herb in the US for more than 12 months I'd say there's about a 90% chance that you've already been offered the TW cutting, that's how common it is.

I am a horticultural scientist with a college degree, not to mention I have Tons of experience in "the (cannabis) field". So I think I'm competent enough to dial in a plant I've had for years...I have no "formula". I use a mix of fertile soils & slow release organic fertilizers (at low rates). As you will see from my pics and all subsequent pics that I post on this site my plants are in perfect health. Furthermore there is nothing you can do to stop TW herms except harvest early!

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trainwreck is a hermie strain for sure

I am Sooo glad to hear you confirm this, in fact on the streets it is common knowledge that if your TW doesn't herm it aint' the real deal...

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I can understand your concern for the stock, in which, greenhouse made there selections from...

And we all should be concerned, especially when 'franco.gh' makes an ignorant comment like this one I found in a locked up thread.

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My friends () brought overe here the most amazing original TW. No herm strain. From Nevada to Oregon, the real deal is the real deal :-)

No herm strain? I'm almost positive that Jason King makes a reference to real TW herming in the 1st cannabible!!

So Franco, what do you have to say about all this? Are you now realizing that you jumped the gun in saying your TW was "real and doesn't herm"? I hope you do have the real TW that Does herm every time, and only now are you realizing it. If the TW your friend sourced for you does not herm, it is certainly Not the "real deal".

Now, no one start trolling this thread up I want it to become a cool headed discussion between franco and the rest of us.

07-21-2007, 06:39 PM

why would you make a thread about a strain you dislike so much?

i get sick of it rather quickly and i'd much rather puff on something else, but its far from the worst strains i've grown/smoked. but what do i know?

Crookie Monster · 07-21-2007, 07:33 PM

It's a strain many people are tired of, but it's quite obvious that this thread isn't supposed to be about that...so please dont take the focus off of the point.

Review the last part of my previous post and it's quite obvious that the purpose of this thread is to have franco.gh take an honest look at his plant and decide wether or not it is the real deal or not. He needs to recognize that the "real deal" trainwreck DOES herm every time. Furthermore he needs to admit that either his friends neglected to tell him that it herms, or he overlooked 3 billion people's testimony of TW herming.

The point of this thread is to preserve the integrity of an American clone only by certifying that the plant making the S1 seeds is a proven hermaphroditic 'arcata trainwreck'.

Franco.gh I await Your response, and pictures...

blowfishdirect · 07-21-2007, 10:33 PM

franco is probably too busy for this thread fella. you can pick up all the cali elites in med clubs im told now dont that make them commercial??? i cant even laugh anymore at the sorry ass northern cali crybabies are you all gay or something. cookie you need to delete this sissy ass thread who has to prove anything to you or any one on icmag you got to be the dumbest shit out here why dont you post up pics of your large and small scale breeding and where can we buy these seeds. why do you cali cats cry and whine about every fucking thing i think I might start a thread called cali crybabies now that funny

Crookie Monster · 07-21-2007, 10:46 PM

Way to come out of left field, not stay on topic & make yourself look like an ass...franco wasn't too busy to call flamers like you trolls and shut down the last Trainwreck thread that I read through, I'm sure he'll get here and tell us if his TW herms or not. Please don't ruin this thread for everyone.

Did I ever imply I was from Cali? Hell no, don't know where you got that from...A twelve year old in alabama could source a real TW cutting if he wanted to! If you'd like to stop searching for attention and go back to the shadows you were lurking in that would be great...and who's crying anyway? I was trying to have an intelligent discussion b4 u showed up.

I have listed seeds on seedbay many times , only recently created this account (I did not create this thread to hype up my seedbay i.d. so I won't start now)...I've got pics that will blow yer mind if you just wanna hold onto your panties.

So unless anyone has anything worthwhile to say I say we all just wait for franco to get here and post up his TW pics (jah knows he's had plenty of time).

07-20-2007, 10:02 PM	#1
Crookie Monster U want a crookie? Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 89	Green House Seed Co. TrainWreck Franco, here is your chance to show off the TW that you have (you have had waaay more than enough time to get your runs of TW going). This is not an argument thread or a "make fun of Franco/Greenhouse" thread so let it stay open and focused on the topic at hand. (you may post your likes and dislikes about the strain TW as it is just a plant and it's butt won't be hurt by comments from experienced cultivators) Trainwreck is highly over-cultivated, and doesn't rank among the scene as an elite among most people anymore. It has it's good attributes (fast flower, sparkly trichs, familiar smell), but the negatives far outweigh the positives. I smoke herb mainly for a "head change", TW gets me feeling zippy for about 1/4 the time that other varietes do. I grow the highest grade organic flavors and the last thing I need in my garden is a plant that will throw out tons of male flowers while still in late flower. Ask anyone who has ever grown the real deal "Arcata TW" and they'll let you know it is a true herm strain, tosses banannas like clockwork. The banannas are not sterile either, the drop plenty of viable pollen. Since you are planning a 'Trainwreck S1' seed release it is only fair to post up the mommy as we all know there are knock-offs out there. It seems redundant and a little behind the times to be pouring effort into such a lame clone which has already been released in S1 form years ago on the original auction websites, but take it for what it is (an opinion). This is not a "dis on Greenhouse" thread, and I am not a troll (so don't even think of closing this thread). Franco.gh, I am wanting your honest opinion as to if you are sure that you have the arcata TW (which herms on time, everytime). And also I'm curious what else your friend in California was packing up for you to smoke...Trainwreck is bottom rung herb as far as a majority of people are concerned Here's some pics of a perfectly done TW that isn't quite done yet and is blasting out nanners in a room where nothing else herms. No light leaks or stress of any kind, climate controlled room. Comments/Opinions any1? Last edited by Crookie Monster; 07-20-2007 at 10:05 PM..
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07-20-2007, 10:16 PM	#2
bluebublelove Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in the blimp Posts: 742	"Trainwreck is bottom rung herb as far as a majority of people are concerned" I don't think thats a very fair blanket statement....many well founded smokers across the u.s. would still consider trainwreck a nice, solid, well worth growing strain...thats not to say there aren't better buds in this world, but I wouldn't, by a longshot call it "bottom rung smoke".....this is a good thread idea nonetheless....I've not seen any of the greenhouse trainwreck before...looking forward to see what people with greenhouses gear bring to the table. __________________ lifes a garden - - grow it
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07-20-2007, 10:28 PM	#5
bluebublelove Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: in the blimp Posts: 742	I can understand your concern for the stock, in which, greenhouse made there selections from...and I can also understand your concern for keeping unwanted, surprise, pollen deposits out of your flower room if you are doing breeding. I was simply saying many people are often delighted by the smoke, taste and smell that a good trainwreck bud gives them...but like I said can see your issues in its stability. __________________ lifes a garden - - grow it
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07-21-2007, 06:39 PM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	why would you make a thread about a strain you dislike so much? i get sick of it rather quickly and i'd much rather puff on something else, but its far from the worst strains i've grown/smoked. but what do i know? Last edited by High&Lonesome; 07-21-2007 at 06:40 PM..
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07-21-2007, 10:33 PM	#9
blowfishdirect Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: not in gay ass north cali Posts: 98	franco is probably too busy for this thread fella. you can pick up all the cali elites in med clubs im told now dont that make them commercial??? i cant even laugh anymore at the sorry ass northern cali crybabies are you all gay or something. cookie you need to delete this sissy ass thread who has to prove anything to you or any one on icmag you got to be the dumbest shit out here why dont you post up pics of your large and small scale breeding and where can we buy these seeds. why do you cali cats cry and whine about every fucking thing i think I might start a thread called cali crybabies now that funny
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07-20-2007, 10:23 PM	#3
Crookie Monster U want a crookie? Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 89	I could see how maybe a cash cropper might enjoy it, the random S1 seeds produced might add some weight lol. My pals and I do some serious large and small scale breeding, so a strain that will herm every time under even the best conditions will never ever be worth keeping around.
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07-21-2007, 07:33 PM	#8
Crookie Monster U want a crookie? Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 89	It's a strain many people are tired of, but it's quite obvious that this thread isn't supposed to be about that...so please dont take the focus off of the point. Review the last part of my previous post and it's quite obvious that the purpose of this thread is to have franco.gh take an honest look at his plant and decide wether or not it is the real deal or not. He needs to recognize that the "real deal" trainwreck DOES herm every time. Furthermore he needs to admit that either his friends neglected to tell him that it herms, or he overlooked 3 billion people's testimony of TW herming. The point of this thread is to preserve the integrity of an American clone only by certifying that the plant making the S1 seeds is a proven hermaphroditic 'arcata trainwreck'. Franco.gh I await Your response, and pictures...
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07-21-2007, 10:46 PM	#10
Crookie Monster U want a crookie? Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 89	Way to come out of left field, not stay on topic & make yourself look like an ass...franco wasn't too busy to call flamers like you trolls and shut down the last Trainwreck thread that I read through, I'm sure he'll get here and tell us if his TW herms or not. Please don't ruin this thread for everyone. Did I ever imply I was from Cali? Hell no, don't know where you got that from...A twelve year old in alabama could source a real TW cutting if he wanted to! If you'd like to stop searching for attention and go back to the shadows you were lurking in that would be great...and who's crying anyway? I was trying to have an intelligent discussion b4 u showed up. I have listed seeds on seedbay many times , only recently created this account (I did not create this thread to hype up my seedbay i.d. so I won't start now)...I've got pics that will blow yer mind if you just wanna hold onto your panties. So unless anyone has anything worthwhile to say I say we all just wait for franco to get here and post up his TW pics (jah knows he's had plenty of time).
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