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Old 03-30-2008, 11:53 AM #1
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hey guys i grow in coco coir and i just AN's monkey juice, I like the product but i was wondering if i really need the A+B grow and A+B bloom, i think using 4 different base nutes may not be nessecary but i am too afraid to grow all the way through using only the grow or only the bloom. Can anyone help me out?

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hey guys i grow in coco coir and i just AN's monkey juice, I like the product but i was wondering if i really need the A+B grow and A+B bloom, i think using 4 different base nutes may not be nessecary but i am too afraid to grow all the way through using only the grow or only the bloom. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks a lot

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your only using 2 sets ,1 for growing(a+b) and 1 for flowering (a+b),,use the grow for the veg stage and the bloom for the flower stage ,simplicity



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I understand that, thats how i currently use the base. I am wondering if i could use only A+B grow for both veg and flowering. Or if i can use A+B bloom for both veg and flowering?



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as hazyfontazy says, you use them separately, grow for veg and bloom for flowering.

Some say switching nutrients on the same day you reduce the light cycle helps switch them into flowering, others prefer leaving them on veg for a week [ish] to stop the plant going N deficient and dying off a bit too much before harvest ... both work.

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Maybe i am asking this wrong so i'll try again.

What would happen if I feed Monkey Juice A+B grow during veg and then during flowering i feed it Monkey Juice A+B grow only (not bloom) during flowering. Is that gonna mess my grow up?



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You can use only the bloom formula throughout. Unless you plan to veg for more than 5weeks, then you may wanna supplement with extra nitro.

Monkey Juice Bloom is almost the same balance as Canna Coco and they never use separate bloom/veg ferts.
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I understand that, thats how i currently use the base. I am wondering if i could use only A+B grow for both veg and flowering. Or if i can use A+B bloom for both veg and flowering?
Base ? I think you are confusing MJ with GHE or Ecolyzer, these work with a base you add other bottles to get a veg or bloom mix. MJ works like most other nutrients, there is no base, you use veg A+B to grow, bloom A+B to flower. If you wish, you can add PK or whatever else you like but do not think of it as a base solution.

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Maybe i am asking this wrong so i'll try again.

What would happen if I feed Monkey Juice A+B grow during veg and then during flowering i feed it Monkey Juice A+B grow only (not bloom) during flowering. Is that gonna mess my grow up?
No, but the plant will not get enough P or K, [that the bloom mix has more of...] so you would get smaller buds, maybe with some visible P/K deficiency symptoms

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You can use only the bloom formula throughout. Unless you plan to veg for more than 5weeks, then you may wanna supplement with extra nitro.

Monkey Juice Bloom is almost the same balance as Canna Coco and they never use separate bloom/veg ferts.
Interesting.... I thought COCO "ate" N so needed more than a normal Hydro mix.... I started using MJ as a very experienced friend told me it is noticeably better than the Canna I have used till now. The fact they have a Veg and a Bloom product made me feel better as "they have obviously been doing research".....
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KennyLingus,

Thanks so much, i thought for the longest time i could do it but i was just too affraid to mess up a harvest.



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IMO coco bloom formulas usually have a pretty high N ratio, and any p-k will be stored in the fibers if the plant don't use it immediately

MJ Bloom is 5-4-4 or something similar, canna is 5-4-3 I think. (Which BTW blowing AN's marketing point of being the first and only manufacturer to take advantage of coco coirs implemented K and reducing the need for high K hydro nutes...)

PS! Vita Link and some others even have one-part all purpose coco-mix (ATAMI or B'cuzz has a powder wich is pretty good and cheap.)
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:47 PM #10
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i really appreicate all the information you have left, i usually never veg for more than 4 weeks so i am just gonna stick with the MJ A+B bloom for now





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