[sladan]

sounds bad! where did he buy his seeds?

[Thule]

Mine are mutants too. The leaves are really dark green and deformed. Sometimes they grow out of it so I'll give 'em some time. I think this is a very inbred line. Inbred but not stable.

[LifeCycle]

here are a couple piks of my 2 stuporsonics to young to tell about the AF right now the light are on 24/7

[Thule]

[quote=LifeCycle]here are a couple piks of my 2 stuporsonics to young to tell about the AF right now the light are on 24/7


My seedlings also express these droopy leaves and seem to be slow starters. well, there's time..

[Hans Blix]

Originally Posted by LifeCycle

here are a couple piks of my 2 stuporsonics to young to tell about the AF right now the light are on 24/7

AF can be defined in different ways. One definition of a "true AF" strain would be that all plants will flower indoors under 24/0. (Or 24/7 as some say.) Stuporsonic isn't a true AF.

[sladan]

it is said that some Stuporsonic seeds begin to flower under 18h light. Assumed I buy a pack of Sagarmatha's Stuporsonic, will i find semi-afs in it?
or do you only find them in the following f1/f2/f3... generations?

[SovietFinland]

I bought Sagarmatha's Stuporsonic 2006 and grow them outdoors -> no semi-afs, not even one. :(

[Thule]

Ok, mine definately autoed. They're only 3 weeks old and on 18/6. These are from the old stock and I'm curious to see how they stretch after flowering this early.

[FirstTracks]

Originally Posted by Hans Blix

AF can be defined in different ways. One definition of a "true AF" strain would be that all plants will flower indoors under 24/0. (Or 24/7 as some say.) Stuporsonic isn't a true AF.

I disagree that AF can really be defined in different ways. IMHO, an autoflowering plant reaches sexual maturity and flowers in a set period of time regardless of photoperiod.

People often confuse photosensitive characteristics with autoflowering characteristics, and this is where we usually see the discrepancies in the definition of what a true AF is.

When you say Stuporsonic isn't a true AF, I have to believe that you, like me, are reaching that conclusion from limited information, most likely your own experience and nothing else.

As thule stated (see below) Stuporsonic is not a very stable line.

[quote=thule]Mine are mutants too. The leaves are really dark green and deformed. Sometimes they grow out of it so I'll give 'em some time. I think this is a very inbred line. Inbred but not stable.[/quote:

This lack of stability leads often leads to great variations in phenotypes. For example, When I grew out Reeferman's Nigerian Nighmare, some plants autoflowered on me within 2-3 weeks under 24/0, but some just kept vegging. I have not grown out stuporsonic myself, so I cannot say with confidence that there is one or more AF phenotypes in the line. I merely draw my conclusion of this from the research I've done on it when I was considering it for a breeding project.

Check out IrishSoCo's thread on photosensitive strains. There was a lot of good info posted in there by several members and lots of clarification on the topic. If I remember correctly, there is info on Stuporsonic in there as well.

happy growing everybody

[Hans Blix]

Originally Posted by Hans Blix

AF can be defined in different ways. One definition of a "true AF" strain would be that all plants will flower indoors under 24/0. (Or 24/7 as some say.) Stuporsonic isn't a true AF.

Originally Posted by FirstTracks

I disagree that AF can really be defined in different ways. IMHO, an autoflowering plant reaches sexual maturity and flowers in a set period of time regardless of photoperiod.

People often confuse photosensitive characteristics with autoflowering characteristics, and this is where we usually see the discrepancies in the definition of what a true AF is.

Yes. I think we are basically in agreement. What I meant was that you can come across different definitions of autoflowering, and that the term is often used loosely.