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rr14 · 03-21-2008, 07:33 PM

I haven't seen anything new. Anyone have any links to good threads? I read the stuff on here religously... northern farmer, christian... those threads are awesome. I want to get a vert going eventually.

stke_fingas · 03-21-2008, 07:47 PM

so it might not be what your looking for but hey it's vert! day 8 of veg today n look at my preflowers!

yesterday

today

if your interested i have a grow diary with more detail. enjoy!

rr14 · 03-22-2008, 07:27 AM

that's what I'm looking for!

Small or big... I'm just looking for ideas on stuff that is more efficient.

stke_fingas · 03-22-2008, 10:22 AM

i don't have any numbers but the growth rate going now will generate some serious bud production down the road! check out my grow log for details and updates. if this thread starts poppin off i'll put up some porn to get people thinkin vertical!

does anyone else have crystals on preflowers at day8 of VEG?

maybe CMH has something to do with this? usually start noticing them about a week into flower(~4 week old plants) in the past with HPS. anyway... i think they're sweet!

WormSlayer · 03-22-2008, 04:00 PM

I'm currently setting up a new vertical flowering area, I'll see if I can find a few pics!

Edit - Apparently I'm not able to link to images, even ones I've uploaded to this site... (i r noob?) ... They are in my gallery!

Mr Celsius · 03-22-2008, 04:18 PM

I honestly debate which yields more: Vertical or high density SOGs.....

By yields more I mean grams per watt hour (g/wh)

WormSlayer · 03-22-2008, 05:24 PM

In my case, it's more about use of available space - My new cupboard holds 80 x 15l pots in 3.5m x 1.75m footprint - If I laid them out horizontally, it would fill the room with no space left to even walk around!

stke_fingas · 03-22-2008, 06:35 PM

mr celsius
are you talking about the veg time becoming a factor? if so there is ways of running a vertical setup with way more plants than you could fit in a flat garden(in the same space) without veg if that is a determining factor. it's easier to take care of 100 plants than 400 too.
take a average 8x8 garden, that means your total growing canopy could be a max 64 square feet and that's wall to wall. but with 4 six foot vert setups fitting in the same space you "could" have somewhere near 4 times the canopy. and IHMO canopy=weight.
vert is the way to go if you want big numbers in a small space. it's not for everyone, but if you have the skill to maintain a huge vert garden you will get rewarded kindly. i wouldn't be posting up a massive vert grow op if i was doing one but i'm sure there are some out there! vertical lighting is a whole other topic of it's own.

Aaronponic · 03-22-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Celsius

I honestly debate which yields more: Vertical or high density SOGs.....

By yields more I mean grams per watt hour (g/wh)

Vertical in a Wall of Green fashion offers the most potential in my opinion. You can position plants to catch the most possible light from the bulb with the least amount of loss. It also creates more work. However, it can not be denied that flat gardens have a large amount of the bulb's light traveling away from the plants and then back tracking toward them after bouncing off a less than 100% efficient reflector.

Mr Celsius · 03-22-2008, 09:52 PM

Well I thought about it a little more.

Imagine a 3x6 table with 2 600w bulbs over it. Then imagine 4 walls that are 3' wide and 6' tall with 2 600w bulbs in the middle of those walls. 4x more 3x6 tables.

But 4x more clones.... imagine having to take 288 clones... not to be envied.

03-21-2008, 07:33 PM	#1
rr14 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 573	Any new vertical setups? I haven't seen anything new. Anyone have any links to good threads? I read the stuff on here religously... northern farmer, christian... those threads are awesome. I want to get a vert going eventually. __________________ .
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03-21-2008, 07:47 PM	#2
stke_fingas taking hits from the zong Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in a box Posts: 328	i introduce to you my lil friend! so it might not be what your looking for but hey it's vert! day 8 of veg today n look at my preflowers! yesterday today if your interested i have a grow diary with more detail. enjoy! __________________ stke my vertical cab UPDATED 23june <~ '09 400w cab https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=240948 Current grow 3k tent
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03-22-2008, 07:27 AM	#3
rr14 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 573	that's what I'm looking for! Small or big... I'm just looking for ideas on stuff that is more efficient. __________________ .
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03-22-2008, 10:22 AM	#4
stke_fingas taking hits from the zong Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in a box Posts: 328	i don't have any numbers but the growth rate going now will generate some serious bud production down the road! check out my grow log for details and updates. if this thread starts poppin off i'll put up some porn to get people thinkin vertical! does anyone else have crystals on preflowers at day8 of VEG? maybe CMH has something to do with this? usually start noticing them about a week into flower(~4 week old plants) in the past with HPS. anyway... i think they're sweet! __________________ stke my vertical cab UPDATED 23june <~ '09 400w cab https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=240948 Current grow 3k tent
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03-22-2008, 04:00 PM	#5
WormSlayer New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 16	I'm currently setting up a new vertical flowering area, I'll see if I can find a few pics! Edit - Apparently I'm not able to link to images, even ones I've uploaded to this site... (i r noob?) ... They are in my gallery! Last edited by WormSlayer; 03-22-2008 at 04:09 PM..
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03-22-2008, 04:18 PM	#6
Mr Celsius I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In my head Posts: 2,087	I honestly debate which yields more: Vertical or high density SOGs..... By yields more I mean grams per watt hour (g/wh) __________________ A plea for your Health (look at this) HP Stadium Organic Pest Control Organics for Beginners BigTokes ~ Basic Water Chemistry!! ALL ABOUT BONSAI MOMS/MUMS Yayyy! My first colloidal silver generator The 6k Stadium that foil tape built Nature is like a brilliant opponent in chess: "We know that his play is always fair, just and patient. But also we know, to our cost, that he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance." - Thomas Henry Huxley "Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." -P. J. O'Rourke
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03-22-2008, 05:24 PM	#7
WormSlayer New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 16	In my case, it's more about use of available space - My new cupboard holds 80 x 15l pots in 3.5m x 1.75m footprint - If I laid them out horizontally, it would fill the room with no space left to even walk around!
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03-22-2008, 06:35 PM	#8
stke_fingas taking hits from the zong Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: in a box Posts: 328	mr celsius are you talking about the veg time becoming a factor? if so there is ways of running a vertical setup with way more plants than you could fit in a flat garden(in the same space) without veg if that is a determining factor. it's easier to take care of 100 plants than 400 too. take a average 8x8 garden, that means your total growing canopy could be a max 64 square feet and that's wall to wall. but with 4 six foot vert setups fitting in the same space you "could" have somewhere near 4 times the canopy. and IHMO canopy=weight. vert is the way to go if you want big numbers in a small space. it's not for everyone, but if you have the skill to maintain a huge vert garden you will get rewarded kindly. i wouldn't be posting up a massive vert grow op if i was doing one but i'm sure there are some out there! vertical lighting is a whole other topic of it's own. __________________ stke my vertical cab UPDATED 23june <~ '09 400w cab https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=240948 Current grow 3k tent
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03-22-2008, 09:52 PM	#10
Mr Celsius I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In my head Posts: 2,087	Well I thought about it a little more. Imagine a 3x6 table with 2 600w bulbs over it. Then imagine 4 walls that are 3' wide and 6' tall with 2 600w bulbs in the middle of those walls. 4x more 3x6 tables. But 4x more clones.... imagine having to take 288 clones... not to be envied. __________________ A plea for your Health (look at this) HP Stadium Organic Pest Control Organics for Beginners BigTokes ~ Basic Water Chemistry!! ALL ABOUT BONSAI MOMS/MUMS Yayyy! My first colloidal silver generator The 6k Stadium that foil tape built Nature is like a brilliant opponent in chess: "We know that his play is always fair, just and patient. But also we know, to our cost, that he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance." - Thomas Henry Huxley "Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." -P. J. O'Rourke
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