BioBizz and hydro

On some online hydro stores it says do not use biobizz with recirculating systems. I am wondering why this is and what hydroponic system it WILL work with. I am not going to change nutrient brands since I like biobizz's results a lot. I'm thinking an ebb and flow garden might work. What growing medium is good for that? I don't want to use anything I have to keep buying and disposing of either, since I will be living in a city in a few years and one has to keep that to a minimum. Anyways, Just wondering about all that.

Peace,
~Skylined

Hydroton clay is a good medium for you,it is ph neutral and can be washed an used over and over again.
I have never used biobizz in hydro as ive never seen any nutrients from biobizz suitable for hydro.

hey guys...howz me ole buddy igro??? Skylined..ive recently moved from soil to NFt and i was left with loads of Biobizz nutrients and wondered the same thing. Could i use any of the biobizz nutes in an NFT? I have bought most of the Canna nutes but i just couldnt afford to get the "bloom" (£50 or there abouts) and i wondered if i could use Bio Heaven instead. At this point i dont really have much choice as im skint from buying the other nutes so i just stuck in some Heaven to see what would happen (Grow shop said it would be ok ).......hmm now this was not too good an idea coz now after a few days i have a scummy kindof stuff in my tank, not much but a wee bit. Although the ph and Ec are still ok im presuming this is not gonna be too good for my babies. Hy, am i gonna have to empty the tank again and just use the Canna aqua shit without the bloom???
Maybe i should phone Biobizz and ask them what they say about Biobizz stuff in a circulating tank!!! I will get back to you Skyliner with their answer.
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gix

Hi gixergal ,ive heard form someone that biobizz are doing hydro nutrients,but ive never seen them.

hey Hy.... i checked with my grow shop and they insist that Biobizz nutes can be used in a recirculating set up. They say it maybe advisbale to stirr the tank every day incase they settle on the bottom of the tank and that the slight foaming is harmless even in a heated tank!!! Ive now emailed Biobizz themsleves to see what they say but so far they have not replied. I'll let you know when an answer arrives from them.
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gix
ps Hy...check out my number of post babe!!! I been busy on IC lately.... xxxx

So I'm guessing biobizz regular in a flood and drain table using hydroton expanded clay pellets. Sounds like a winner to me. What would be a good idea for a complete line of nutrients and what concentrations should I use if I'm going to be combining them all in a nutrient solution? I've never really built (or even thought of it until very recently), so I have many questions.

Peace,
~Skylined

hey skylined.. i got a reply from Biobizz and it is as follows :
BIOBIZZ Newsletter, 09 2006

BIOBIZZ World Wide Organics presents:

BIOHEAVEN PLANT ENERGY BOOSTER




Hey there!,



Not everybody knows, but it is possible to use Biobizz products on Hydro systems, and it is being done already. Especially here in Holland (on rockwool), in France (NFT and Coco) and Spain (Aeroponics).



Biobizz products were originally designed for growing on soil, but since we have OMRI and SKAL/EKO certifications (to prove and ensure it is 100% biological) we filter and process some of our components in such a manner, that they can work in universal way, regardless if you are growing on rockwool, NFT or with an automated Cocosystem



The basic rules:



Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice work without any problem on all hydroponical systems, like NFT, rockwool, Coco, Clay pebbels, Autopot / Aquasystems, Aeroponics etc,etc.



Topmax, Biobloom and Rootjuice can be stored in tanks or nutrient barrels for about one week, but only if a good circulation pump is added as well. Always work clean, Biobizz nutrients contain no preservatives.



Biogrow/ Fishmix, You can use it, but it decomposes very quickly, because of it’s concentrated ingredients. In an NFT system or nutrient tank it would mean you'd have to refresh the tank every 2 days instead of once a week. Also you have to really know what you are doing. Since it can go wrong easily if you don't pay attention, we do not promote it.



For automated sytems, it’s the same story. Biogrow/ Fishmix, decompose in two days, and start to foam. So if you have prepared a solution with water Biogrow and/or Fishmix, use the content of the tank immediatly. Besides the mix of these two products can clogg up the tubings of your system. Use at least ø4mm tubings for your watering system to prevent this. It can be advised after feeding to flush the tubings with additonal water, clearing out all remaining residue.

For automated coco systems, Biogrow/ Fishmix, can be best used as a topfeeder by hand. Simply water by hand 2-3 times a week to avoid smelly and foaming nutrient barrels. If you add Biogrow/ Fishmix, to your tank make sure you use the complete content at once!



Using simple filters like a panty or old t-shirt can help filter larger particles in Biobizz nutrients, without loosing power, it will help to prevent clogging.



Fishmix and/or Alg-a-Mic: can be used as a foliarspray, you can continue doing this (2-3 times a week, 1-2ml per liter) untill the second week of flowering, then you have to stop, because these two products should not come in direct contact with the flowers.

The Fishmix makes sure you have enough nitrogen (if you are growing/flowering on NFT, this is the only extra source of Nitrogen Biobizz can provide (besides the Nitrogen in Biobloom), but after the second week of flowering you might need to add an additonal product to maintain specific Nitrogen levels if your plants show deficiencies.

With only Topmax and Biobloom it will lack nitrogen, magnesium and other usefull elements. Not so much because Biobizz products are crap, but because the NPK levels of 100% organic products can never be higher than 8.



Sometimes,depending on the seize of the plant, and in specific systems, after the second week of flowering a higher NPK level is required than Biobloom can offer on it’s own. Soil for instance, is a much better buffer and much richer in minerals than the water in an NFT tank. As we already said, Biobizz is originally designed for soil.



For dosage on hydroponical and Coco systems, we advise to follow our growchart for lightmix + aprox. 40%, So 5ml becomes 7 ml, 2ml becomes 3 ml and so on.



You can find our growchart on www.biobizz.com under downloads/resources



So to evaluate this whole story: Topmax, Bloom, and Rootjuice are multifunctional products that you can use in combination with other nutrients in any system.



Fishmix and Alg-a-mic as foliar spray 1-3 ml 2-3 times a week, till the second week of flowering



Biogrow/ Fishmix: In a hydrosystem do not use unless you know exaclty what you are doing or if you like to use it as a topfeeder on Coco systems.



So what about Bioheaven?



Now, this product was designed for ALL systems, Hydro, Coco, Aero, Soil etc. It is an individual product, not a bloomstimulator or rootstimulator! It can be used with ALL nutrient programs and products, and is designed to boost the application of the nutrient you are using. The L-Amino-acids are doing two important things for the plants: They transform macro-elements in natural enzyms and proteins,

and they increase the mineral uptake from 15-20% to 80-90%. This means you use every drop out of every mililiter of nutrient you are using! Because of the increased efficiency of the plants regulation system it works as a powerfull energy booster. For Bioheaven we have only one application: Use it !

Happy growing!

So there we go Skylined... hope this helps.
love
gix

Nice one Gix,
Thanks for the info,I asked an was told no.
So you can do it,happy days!

gee fanx Hy

Imagine me givin YOU information... (fecksake!!!) Whats the world coming to??? Anyways, babe, you are right.... we can do it... Catch a soon Hy
love
gix
ps....check my posts....only 5 to go til i can blether to my hearts content...xxx