[Captain Canibus]

There are a few things I want to do b4 I croak. I've adoptrd some of BOG's virgins, but thet are much too young to sacrifice. A 500 pound Marlin would be nice. Maybe next summer.

Hawaian smoke. Anyone have any advice or experience growing this stuff? Are there any "pure" strains available? This is definitely on my list. Thick gooey buds ya had to cut up with a scisors. Oh baby.

I've got quite a few freinds in the islands and make several trips a year over to paradise.

Although you still find some old school Maui Gold, Maui Wowie, and Puna Bud it is not the strongest or most desirable herb available in paradise.

My last couple of trips the primo stuff has been Diesel, Pink Grapefruit, Sour Diesel, something they are calling Mighty Joe Young and some Afgani here and there.

The real trick seems to be the Islands themeselves. They are getting three to four harvest a year in dirt outside. No nutes, no fuss, and no muss. All organic. Volcanic soil is something else. These guys are not even preppin the soil or anything. Just find a good patch of dirt and go. I also know greenhouse growers there that are doing one more harvest a year and getting much thicker, meatier buds. Definately sticky, drippy buds.

It also seems to be dependent on what part of the Islands your in. Upcountry Maui seems to be great, not raining all the time but other places on Maui are the wettest places on earth. Some places on the Big Island are like the desert with little rain at all. The Big Island seems to be more suitable for growing (weather, attitude and population dencity). But, no matter what part of the Islands they are growing in it seems to only take them a few months for them to get it dialed in.

They have also discountinued fly choppers around trying to find outdoor grows. The state was sued over the practice because it was killing off a local protected bird and disrupting it's nesting area (thank god for greenies). Plus it cost so much to man and keep gas in the choppers and for the most part Hawaii is a very poor state. Pineapple and tourism only get you so far. So with that there is a surplus of local outdoor bud. Great if you in the know but it's still holding $100.00/quater in the local retail market.

I've grown out some Hawaiian Indica from Sensi Seeds that was not that great. I've also grown out some Diesel from seed that was from a Hawaiian batch and it was good but not great. The plants seem to love paradise as much as I do. I typically grow indoor organic hydro so it's not quite the same.

I'm going over the first of April. So, I can give some more feedback when I return.

Texas Kid

[MossMan]

I have read that either Fuma con Dios or The Real Mccoy from The Flying Dutchman has quote "some primo hawaian genetics in it".

[wolfshadow]

TK.

Thanks for that Info. A damn fine report..

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[Captain Canibus]

Thanx Guys-

The smoke I got was from a grower in the early 80's. It looks like things have changed for the worse. It also looks like the Island strains have all been hybridized.

It is still the best weed I've ever smoked.

Buds actually grown in paradise just have a special loving effect on the mind and body.

Man I love that place.

I'm actively scouting land and houses right now. What a much more smoke freindly enviroment. Everybody puffs.

Texas Kid

[KGB47]

I hear ya' Captain, I smoked some of the pure Maui Wowie back in 1982 from a friend that had just come back from the Islands. To this day I have yet to smoke anything with that kind of body high that keeps your head clear and energized. I went for a five mile bike ride after smoking the kind bud and I though I was flying, literally!
Dutch Passion puts out a version of their own called "Hawaiian Haze". I haven't grown it but it sounds tasty enough. Good luck with your 500 LB. marlin

[elmo quist]

I gotta chime in here, because Hawaiian is prolly the best "up" high I have ever experienced as well (or was it just that I was 20 years younger and toting around a little less weight?) I got a hold of some Maui Wowie about the same time that KGB47 did; my ex-gf went to there every year for vacation with her folks and always brought back the goodies--Kona Gold, the Wowie, etc. I grew the few seeds that were in the buds, and I can only back up what the Texas Kid said--the girls never came close to their mother in either taste or buzz. I prefer Hawaiian coffee as well, and it's interesting to note that cannabis and coffee share the same boost in aroma, flavor, and richness when grown in volcanic soil....conditions that cannot be duplicated by the simple home grower.....unless, of course, the Kid wants to help us all out by bringing a load of dirt back.

Has anyone checked out either Pakalolo or Paia Hawaiiana from Sativa Seedbank (at SD)?? I'm pretty sure both have been "stabilized"(crossed with skunk) to shorten maturation times and increase the yield, but I figure if one grew enough of them, you might find a really sativa pheno......anyway, that's my plan.......when finances permit.

And to the esteemed Captain--good luck with that marlin--

Elmo,

That much dirt may be a bitch to get through the airport.

Pakalolo is a generic term when your in Hawaii (hawaiian for weed) so I'm not sure what exact strain or hybrid that may be.

I know the guy's in Paia on the wonderful island of Maui that elegidly, to hear them tell it, did the early hybrids of the Paia Hawaiiana strain thats out there right now, but I haven't grown any.

Smoked some with a heavy sativa pheno last time I was there and vegged out. I think I sat with my finger on the remote control channel button for about 25 or 30 minutes before my old lady asked me if I was alright. I guess everybody wasn't as interested in watching all the channels just scroll by as fast as the TV would allow. Oh well, killer buz anyways

I'll see what web they have to spin when I'm there in 4 weeks roughin it. hehehe


Tex Kid


P.S. In the land of the blind a one eyed man is king

[Captain Canibus]

Texas Kid-

I hear ya about vegging out for a half hour. You kust kind of finaly come to. HeHeHe!!!