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BigToke · 04-01-2005, 07:24 PM

The excel sheet is still in the workings……..I do have a mini-bio-bucket design that I’ve not have the time to through together but it’s still in the workings.

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04-01-2005, 07:36 PM

Big Toke I dropped by just to go OT on your thread

....why? Your fine self of course! You got my hormones in turmoil with that pic you posted

Now that we're fellow Mentors can I touch?

the protege · 04-02-2005, 01:17 AM

Well, assuming I use 2 or 3 5 gallon buckets what would your guess on the reservoir be? If I use a c22 then it will be 3 buckets more than likely, but if I go c13, I believe two nice ladies will do it.
the p

BigToke · 04-05-2005, 10:22 PM

Say, thanks xxBluevelvetxx for the complement I’m sure your one fine check yourself but halfbaked is right and although I have 36 girls to take care of {plants} there is one that is above them ALL and to me she is the finest check of them ALL!! but I’m not really wanting to get into my personal life ya know, for security reasons. You know what they say: behind every good man, is a better woman!! This is sooooooooo true in my case!! Don’t really know what to tell ya about those hormones but I can tell ya this, if I was going to the ICMag 420 Cup this year we would do some touching alright!! Dancing and partying that is, we would have a great old time {one to remember!!} maybe next year?

the protégé – from the sound of it you would like to be able to leave your grow for a few days at a time right? If that being the case I would probably go with double the size of the reservoir that is recommended, this should allow you to be away a few days without any problems………btw you can make a true Bio-System work just about any were, just make sure it’s hook-up right? And designed right!! And it should grow anything……….one thing to remember is, if your going to leave it for a few days at a time make sure your lights are raised enough so that it doesn’t burn your plants.

Also I have done another update in the Part Three – Reservoir Design I have added some detailed pic’s that should give a little bit more of an understanding.

the protege · 04-06-2005, 04:26 AM

Thanks BT, I have another question for ya. Would it be counter productive to use any root rot guard type products. Would that kill the good bacterium? Talking about products like SM-90, I think i was told they can render some organic products useless. Just wondering, the real thing i want to be able to do is guard against root rot. I battled it on my first hydro attempt before having to shut down due to landlord intrusion. It was a simple bubble bucket.

BigToke · 04-06-2005, 05:19 AM

It has been my experience that if designed right you will have no trouble at all and no root rot!! I use nothing and would recommend the same for you………….design it the way I have laid it out and BAM!! Root rot gone!! Btw if you cant keep the temp below 80 degrees you may run into trouble no matter what you do.

04-08-2005, 01:46 AM

Hey BT. I am starting to see some kind of slimey substance starting to grow on the res walls. It looks kinda dark brown. I am using ordinary tap water. (hard water) 200 ppms with a ph of 8. Any idea what it may be or any suggestions?
thanks bro.

BigToke · 04-08-2005, 04:22 PM

Rule, that dark brown foam doesn’t sound good here are some things to check out that mite help:

Make sure that the lava rocks are submerged up to 1” from the top of the net-pot, this will allow for maximum colonization of the Beneficial Bacterium.
Make sure that ALL tubs are getting equally exchanged 7 to 10 times an hour,………if you have one for some reason that is not getting exchanged properly enough it will go bad and because ALL tubs are connected together it will spread!! Most of the time you can tell how each tub is efficiently working by watching how each drain-back-line drops into the reservoir, if one is stronger than the others then it’s unevenly distributed.
Make sure that the waterfall effect is making enough Dissolved Oxygen for the system and if not add some air stones in the reservoir, that way it will distribute the O2 throughout all of the system.
Make sure your NOT using the Lucas Formula!! This formula uses to much phosphors and will lead to an added increase in algae growth.

I hope this helps out somewhat for ya rule, if I can be of any more help to ya just let me know. Btw I would keep a check on those roots and if you see anything that looks funny going on I would dump and start over again…………how long has this water been in the system?

04-08-2005, 11:52 PM

I ran it long enough to see the bacteria on the surface of the water. I then added the plants afterwards and the lava rocks are deep enough. The water flow is equal. I will add airstones and see what happens. The brown is a slime, not a foam. Do you know if AN piranha beneficial bacteria would do this maybe?

BigToke · 04-09-2005, 06:15 AM

AN Piranha!!! Please don’t till me you put that in your Bio-System!! Man I wrote the book on Bio in the Bio-Systems trust me, and if you needed to put any thing else in your Bio-System I would have told everyone……….Well if you did Flush!! this nor anything else is applicable in are situation I want go into a lot of detail about this because of many different reasons………..but bottom line is, all you need is clean fresh water, let run for one week and open to the air!! No need to put anything else in the Bio-System to make or help it work, it will do it on it’s own…………..sorry dude if I sounded a little bit pushy there but I see so many products out there that are unnecessary for Hydroponics, if the system is designed right it will support it’s self, these products are made for DIY hydro builders who improperly designed there hydro-system and therefore need extra help in order to grow there plants but I say again if designed right you need nothing but a well designed system!!

Rule I would put my Bio-System up against any product on the market……..you could put my Bio-System side-by-side with another hydro-system any kind it doesn’t matter, and put this anti-fungus product in there system and I would put my Bio-System up against there’s and guarantee that there’s would get root-rot before mine did………….I have grown plants in my system for up to six-months without any reservoir change-outs and without any root-rot!! I have never had root-rot or lost a plant in the Bio-System………..I am sorry so much trouble out of this system but if I were you I would go over every thing and make sure that the system is designed right and what every you do put nothing in it!! If you do and something goes wrong you will always wonder if it was something you did? That’s one of the reasons I say start out with nothing and then go from there.

I hope this helps if there’s any thing else I can do for ya let me know and I’ll do my best.

04-01-2005, 07:24 PM	#141
BigToke Bio-Bucket Specialist Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In My Bio-Cave, Growing In Bio-Buckets Posts: 1,558	The excel sheet is still in the workings……..I do have a mini-bio-bucket design that I’ve not have the time to through together but it’s still in the workings. BigTokes: "How-To" Of The Bio-Buckets 101 BigTokes: Hard-Core Bio-Buckets, First Big Run!! BigTokes: Secound Big Run!! BigTokes: AK-47 Plus H.D.F Bio-Bucket Style
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04-01-2005, 07:36 PM	#142
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Big Toke I dropped by just to go OT on your thread ....why? Your fine self of course! You got my hormones in turmoil with that pic you posted Now that we're fellow Mentors can I touch?
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04-02-2005, 01:17 AM	#143
the protege Marijuana Connoisseur Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 325	Well, assuming I use 2 or 3 5 gallon buckets what would your guess on the reservoir be? If I use a c22 then it will be 3 buckets more than likely, but if I go c13, I believe two nice ladies will do it. the p __________________ Life is good!!! Original Overgrower
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04-05-2005, 10:22 PM	#144
BigToke Bio-Bucket Specialist Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In My Bio-Cave, Growing In Bio-Buckets Posts: 1,558	Say, thanks xxBluevelvetxx for the complement I’m sure your one fine check yourself but halfbaked is right and although I have 36 girls to take care of {plants} there is one that is above them ALL and to me she is the finest check of them ALL!! but I’m not really wanting to get into my personal life ya know, for security reasons. You know what they say: behind every good man, is a better woman!! This is sooooooooo true in my case!! Don’t really know what to tell ya about those hormones but I can tell ya this, if I was going to the ICMag 420 Cup this year we would do some touching alright!! Dancing and partying that is, we would have a great old time {one to remember!!} maybe next year? the protégé – from the sound of it you would like to be able to leave your grow for a few days at a time right? If that being the case I would probably go with double the size of the reservoir that is recommended, this should allow you to be away a few days without any problems………btw you can make a true Bio-System work just about any were, just make sure it’s hook-up right? And designed right!! And it should grow anything……….one thing to remember is, if your going to leave it for a few days at a time make sure your lights are raised enough so that it doesn’t burn your plants. Also I have done another update in the Part Three – Reservoir Design I have added some detailed pic’s that should give a little bit more of an understanding.
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04-06-2005, 04:26 AM	#145
the protege Marijuana Connoisseur Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 325	Thanks BT, I have another question for ya. Would it be counter productive to use any root rot guard type products. Would that kill the good bacterium? Talking about products like SM-90, I think i was told they can render some organic products useless. Just wondering, the real thing i want to be able to do is guard against root rot. I battled it on my first hydro attempt before having to shut down due to landlord intrusion. It was a simple bubble bucket. __________________ Life is good!!! Original Overgrower
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04-06-2005, 05:19 AM	#146
BigToke Bio-Bucket Specialist Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In My Bio-Cave, Growing In Bio-Buckets Posts: 1,558	It has been my experience that if designed right you will have no trouble at all and no root rot!! I use nothing and would recommend the same for you………….design it the way I have laid it out and BAM!! Root rot gone!! Btw if you cant keep the temp below 80 degrees you may run into trouble no matter what you do.
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04-08-2005, 01:46 AM	#147
rule35sub1 Guest Posts: n/a	Hey BT. I am starting to see some kind of slimey substance starting to grow on the res walls. It looks kinda dark brown. I am using ordinary tap water. (hard water) 200 ppms with a ph of 8. Any idea what it may be or any suggestions? thanks bro.
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04-08-2005, 04:22 PM	#148
BigToke Bio-Bucket Specialist Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In My Bio-Cave, Growing In Bio-Buckets Posts: 1,558	Rule, that dark brown foam doesn’t sound good here are some things to check out that mite help: Make sure that the lava rocks are submerged up to 1” from the top of the net-pot, this will allow for maximum colonization of the Beneficial Bacterium. Make sure that ALL tubs are getting equally exchanged 7 to 10 times an hour,………if you have one for some reason that is not getting exchanged properly enough it will go bad and because ALL tubs are connected together it will spread!! Most of the time you can tell how each tub is efficiently working by watching how each drain-back-line drops into the reservoir, if one is stronger than the others then it’s unevenly distributed. Make sure that the waterfall effect is making enough Dissolved Oxygen for the system and if not add some air stones in the reservoir, that way it will distribute the O2 throughout all of the system. Make sure your NOT using the Lucas Formula!! This formula uses to much phosphors and will lead to an added increase in algae growth. I hope this helps out somewhat for ya rule, if I can be of any more help to ya just let me know. Btw I would keep a check on those roots and if you see anything that looks funny going on I would dump and start over again…………how long has this water been in the system?
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04-08-2005, 11:52 PM	#149
rule35sub1 Guest Posts: n/a	I ran it long enough to see the bacteria on the surface of the water. I then added the plants afterwards and the lava rocks are deep enough. The water flow is equal. I will add airstones and see what happens. The brown is a slime, not a foam. Do you know if AN piranha beneficial bacteria would do this maybe?
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04-09-2005, 06:15 AM	#150
BigToke Bio-Bucket Specialist Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In My Bio-Cave, Growing In Bio-Buckets Posts: 1,558	AN Piranha!!! Please don’t till me you put that in your Bio-System!! Man I wrote the book on Bio in the Bio-Systems trust me, and if you needed to put any thing else in your Bio-System I would have told everyone……….Well if you did *Flush!!* this nor anything else is applicable in are situation I want go into a lot of detail about this because of many different reasons………..but bottom line is, all you need is clean fresh water, let run for one week and open to the air!! No need to put anything else in the Bio-System to make or help it work, it will do it on it’s own…………..sorry dude if I sounded a little bit pushy there but I see so many products out there that are unnecessary for Hydroponics, if the system is designed right it will support it’s self, these products are made for DIY hydro builders who improperly designed there hydro-system and therefore need extra help in order to grow there plants but I say again if designed right you need nothing but a well designed system!! Rule I would put my Bio-System up against any product on the market……..you could put my Bio-System side-by-side with another hydro-system any kind it doesn’t matter, and put this anti-fungus product in there system and I would put my Bio-System up against there’s and guarantee that there’s would get root-rot before mine did………….I have grown plants in my system for up to six-months without any reservoir change-outs and without any root-rot!! I have never had root-rot or lost a plant in the Bio-System………..I am sorry so much trouble out of this system but if I were you I would go over every thing and make sure that the system is designed right and what every you do put nothing in it!! If you do and something goes wrong you will always wonder if it was something you did? That’s one of the reasons I say start out with nothing and then go from there. I hope this helps if there’s any thing else I can do for ya let me know and I’ll do my best.
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