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Old 02-11-2008, 01:20 AM #1
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Soma´s BED (A question for you SOMA).

Hello Soma.
I have you book for a few years, and yesterday I have the idea to make my own pots based on your beds.

I was wondering to bild a huge pot for my indoor plants.
Like 35-40 liters each one.

In your beds (1,25 x 1,25 x 0,35) the total volume is 547 liters.
You use to put 20 plants in each bed which gives approximately
27 liters for each plant.

My question for you Soma is: In your experience growing sacred plants, do you believe that 40 liters pot for each plant would make so many difference about final height of my harvest , or maybe I am kind exaggerating the size of the pots?

The dimensions that I was wondering to bild are 0,35 m x 0,35 x 0,40 high pots. This gives a 49 liters pot.

What do you think professor?
I just want that the size of the pots don´t be a limitating factor of mine bud produtivity.


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Old 02-11-2008, 04:07 AM #2
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Greetings O.F..........you don't want more soil than your plant will use.......it has alot to do with how much you vegitate the plants..........big plants need alot of soil.....small plants don't.........too much soil stops it from drying out enough.....allowing for air to reach the roots........and makes it stay too soggy.........use alot of perlite.......Peace Soma
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Old 02-11-2008, 04:26 AM #3
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right on! Soma's post, above, mirrors what i would have said. a can full of mud drowns the roots and restricts oxygen in the root-zone. on the other hand, a can full of roots equates to max o2 in the root-zone. i suggest you stick with the 4x4 beds, as layed out by Soma, or try to find a deal on some high-volume (we use 7 gallon) wide-mouthed containers. these cans are more shallow than tall, and the plants just love them. try them and im positive you will experience everything from accelerated veg. speed, to less chance of transplant stunting, to an overall improvement in plant-health (your plants will be happy as ever ) great post, Soma!

Note to Soma: please, if you could, check the thread im about to post in your forum here. thank you, kind friend
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:45 PM #4
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Ok.
But none of you said if 40 liters was too much.
I understand what Soma and you Eth said.

Maybe I will go on with my feeling.
Big pots seems big roots that seems vigorous growth.

I´m not going to make the full beds, cause I live in a rent house.
If a an emergency happens, with singular pots I can move the plants safe for another place.

Thankx for the replies, Soma and Eth.
Asking your meaning Soma, I just do 2 grows per year.
So I usually takes long time for vegitate phase.

Resuming my grow:
I start seeds on a 300ml cups and let them for 2-3 weeks.
Then I transplant them for 1 gallon pots, and let them until pre-flowers shown up.
Then as I know which ones are females, I transplant them to 5 gallon pots and let then up to the harvest.


I am having good results with this method.
But I was wondering to get more!!!
I will make this singular "beds" with 50 litters and see what happens in my garden!!!

Ok?

Keep growing.
Jah bless

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Old 02-14-2008, 01:34 AM #5
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Damn! I just spent some time tracking down tall deep containers! I was going to go 10"x7.5"square rose buckets to veg in...

Is the wide mouth container a strain specific recommendation? Example: Sativas like tall deep and indicas like wide shallow???

Is the recommendation for clones only? Won't the lack of depth restrict the tap root on plants from seed?

Any further wisdom appreciated...
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:56 PM #6
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i use a big container to grow, and this is one of the best methods to grow,it holds like 70 L of substract, i try to make it as organic as possible as i dont have any holes to drain watter, if you have the space to fit one in your grow then i advice you to, you can get the best results, and if you use coco the results are even better!!



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Old 02-17-2008, 08:14 PM #7
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70 liters for 10 plants is such a small space in my oppion.
Maybe 2 plants per container.

But dunno, if you are saying that you are having some good results...
Keep going!!!


Thankx anyway bro.

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Old 02-23-2008, 07:59 PM #8
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I veg for 4-5 weeks in 7inch pots then transplant to 21 lt pots 1 week before flowering, flick the switch when they are 12 inches high which gives me a finished height of around 3 feet-ish and a yeild around 2.5 oz per dried plant but have had up to 5oz pp. this works great and the roots fill the whole pot by the time they are done, no wasted soil space.

i don't overcrowd my space ( less plants, more yeild ) 5 plants under a 600 watt hps 4ftx4ft= 37.5 watts per sq. ft.

Important points.

i mix in around 40-50% perlite, good drainage and gets oxygen to the roots.

When i transplant to the big pots i water them in till it just runs out the bottom of pot then don't water again for at least a week, sometimes more, this gets the roots down searching for water once the plant has used up the water around the roots at the surface, the plant will look like it is growing slowly at this time because it is using energy in massive root growth searching deeper in the pot looking for moisture. then at next watering it goes ballistic.

Only water when the soil has dried to the bottom of the pot.

Gud Luck...BudBud..
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