[Securityfirst]

JJ let me first say that I have thoroughly enjoyed reading a lot of your work. You seem to have a real passion for the plant. I think you not a dummy. However you say though not to give personal information yet you represent a website that seed companies probably pay for. Now if I get involved with these said seed companies and give my personal information to them isn't it possible that the DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY COULD GET INVOLVED. I mean if I meet a stranger and smoke a bowl with him and sell him 100 clones thats my choice isn't it? I appreciate you trying to protect us but it seems like a double edge sword sometimes. Lets hear what you have to say.

peace and security first

[JJScorpio]

Even when ordering seeds, it's not necessary to give them your personal information. You should make sure the seeds are sent to a safe address away from the grow and the person growing...

As for selling a stranger 100 clones, that is your choice. And that's the reason I posted this thread. There is nothing you can do to guarantee you will never get arrested. But there are things you can do to minimize the odds...

[Securityfirst]

True that.

Originally Posted by Chester

That's good to hear. It is reasonable notice to post, as this is the place for it.

Please note that I make no accusations whatsoever. I just voiced my own, paranoid, opinion on the issue of PMs on internet forums. Nothing more. Hell I'd even recommend that you not use them if you asked me about it.

What it comes down to, is that PM information is out of your personal control at any internet forum. ICmag being no exception to my personal rule. You are completely reliant on the trustworthiness of people you do not know personally, and that scares me.

Your assurances that ICmag administration doesn't read PMs means nothing to me because I don't care if they do, or if they don't. I simply make it a policy to never PM anything I wouldn't post, and thus I have nothing to worry about.

And JJ, no matter what internet forum you are talking about, you only have the forum administrators word about the PM issue. Maybe some forum admins are completely trustworthy and you would trust your life and freedom to them. Me, I'm not that trusting, and thus my personal opinion and personal policy holds.

It's just my own personal, paranoid opinion. What you choose to do for your own security is your own, personal responsibility. After all, we are all personally responsible for our own security. If you think I'm too paranoid, well, I can accept that and agree with you.

I'm also free. Free of worries about what information might be floating around outside of my control. Some paranoia is a good thing. The overconfident are easy targets for law enforcement.

agreed on all points. in fact i would even suggest not to pm anything that you couldn't afford getting out on the public side.

Originally Posted by JJScorpio

Even when ordering seeds, it's not necessary to give them your personal information. You should make sure the seeds are sent to a safe address away from the grow and the person growing...

As for selling a stranger 100 clones, that is your choice. And that's the reason I posted this thread. There is nothing you can do to guarantee you will never get arrested. But there are things you can do to minimize the odds...

a-friggan-men - if you always strive to decrease your exposure, it helps!

however - there are many things to do to secure v-bulletin but much more important is encrypting everything, not recording ip's, and making sure that anything that is an ip or identifiable is stored only in ram- if you want a good idea of what to do, look at any good secure bittorrent tracker.

also ssl [https] should be the default for connecting to the site =[



Finally, i would like to remind everyone of those little scumsuckers that just try to work their way up in the chain. As OP says be very very careful, the best nark is a turned friend!

[puffdragon]

be safe!!!!!!!!!!

[yurok1]

How's this for paranoia?
I'm a new hobbiest in this feild, just getting started. I'm not new to the plant, but to indoor growing. So the first thing I do is find a local grow shop, and where I live there is only one. On my second trip to the shop I meet the owner and we are conversing and I mention a soil mixture that I got from this site. In the coarse of the telling I used ICmag's full name, and because of that, the owner of this one and only shop said he could'nt sell me anything! That's right, now I must do all my buying online, or drive 2 1/2 hrs to another city. Now I never mentioned the plant, only the name of the place I got recipe. I must admit I'm still hot as dragon pussy. This guy knows what he is selling is used for, and because he is the only place to go, he can be a dick. How is that for Paranoid ?!?!
Thanks for letting me bitch,
Now dose anyone have any suggestions about good whole-salers online that you don't have to be a professional shop to order ? I need to find a reliable place to shop.

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04-06-2009 11:58 PMchiefmasterbong
wuts up man? u got yahoo messenger or aim?
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I don't even know this guy. He kinda came outa nowhere. Not cool!

[Weedninja]

If he sold anything to you, he would be guilty of conspiracy. I can promise you that if he's the only game in town, the cops would love to bust him and make it look like they cracked a "drug ring". Maybe if you went back, he would "wink wink" not remember your comments.

Originally Posted by yurok1

How's this for paranoia?
I'm a new hobbiest in this feild, just getting started. I'm not new to the plant, but to indoor growing. So the first thing I do is find a local grow shop, and where I live there is only one. On my second trip to the shop I meet the owner and we are conversing and I mention a soil mixture that I got from this site. In the coarse of the telling I used ICmag's full name, and because of that, the owner of this one and only shop said he could'nt sell me anything! That's right, now I must do all my buying online, or drive 2 1/2 hrs to another city. Now I never mentioned the plant, only the name of the place I got recipe. I must admit I'm still hot as dragon pussy. This guy knows what he is selling is used for, and because he is the only place to go, he can be a dick. How is that for Paranoid ?!?!
Thanks for letting me bitch,
Now dose anyone have any suggestions about good whole-salers online that you don't have to be a professional shop to order ? I need to find a reliable place to shop.

he's just covering his ass. it's probably like how if you go to a shop to buy a bong and you call it a bong they wont sell one to you. water pipe anyone?

[yurok1]

You are right, I made a mistake. I should only be mad at myself for not thinking.