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Ulysses · 05-08-2008, 12:25 PM

Floral, earthy, choco-lime! M313, you are killing me...
How am I going to let them cure with a flavor description like that! I've been smoking the same ThaixSkunk for 2 years and I am sick of it!!! I'm already salivating and flower is months away, let alone dry and cure...

Did you top your plants? What do you feed them?

martian313 · 05-09-2008, 12:54 AM

Ulysses...

Topped them like crazy to keep the size down, untopped I think the Mex dominates they... would be huge. Feeding was with a strong organic soil mix, with Guano top dressings later on and the odd top up with Plagron Alga bloom. How are yours coming along ?

m313

Mr. Alkaline · 05-10-2008, 11:21 AM

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Puebla--red
Guerrero--green
Oaxaca--pink

Ulysses · 05-10-2008, 01:37 PM

Well guys, they look great! I stretched them a little by adding some FF Plant Mix which contains guano. I got a torn bag for $10 thrown my way- couldn't say no... This went into the transplant mix- maybe a bit N heavy for them at this stage... They are on molassas, ewc, and a bit of maxi-crop and plant success mych...

I have prepped buried 6 gal pots growing mycorrizzahe in the wild. I fill a 2 gallon grow bag with ewc and mulch and put that right into the pot so there will be a hole to receive the transplant. Then cover the whole mess with old rotting landscape fabric and dirt for cover... I'm shooting for monster bush! At least one will be straight into the ground- the old fashioned way...

I want to take clones! I can't tell which one is the winner, they all look remarkably similar- not leaning toward Mex or BB either way, and giving off just your regular 'plant in veg' smell from a stem rub... Gonna have to take a cut(s) of all them. You can tell these plants want to be great- I hope the deer don't think so as well...

The male is already on site and unmolested

Ulysses · 05-28-2008, 12:24 PM

I had an opportunity to visit the Highland patch yesterday evening for an update...

During veg, I bent the apical tip downward and fixed with a twist tie for a week or so to encourage branching... Well, branch it DID!!! These Highlanders are all over the place! I know I said I wanted a monster bush but I meant at Harvest!

Transplant shock appears minimum but one got accidently topped high up (and I got a clone)... They are nearly 3 feet long and the branches about a foot long... I am in a dilemma as to whether or not to pinch the tips or just let them go freestyle... The 6 gallon pot size should limit the height somewhat... Also, there is heavy mychorriza and half doses of Fox Farms Fruit and Flower 5-8-6 already in the soil mix- I hope that's not too much nitrogen...

The most interesting thing is the main stems are green-the fan leaf stems and side shoots are reddish purple... Makes good camo in the thorn patch! These ladies are still remarkably similar in appearance... They are exuding a subtle sweetish veg smell now that they are under the sun- it's distant and faint at 10 feet yet you can't pick it up with your face in the crown... This teasing scent alone sends my mind reeling with the potential taste, smell, and high of the finished product!

I am having trouble with what I have identified as "Milk Weed Bug" nymphs sucking the sap from the new growth on my Love Potions- I'm smacking them down with Neem and Diatomateous Earth-- they are thus far ignoring the Highland Mex... I hope this bug resistance is a genetic trait... No deer problems yet, using human urine in half full gallon jugs stashed near the base of the plant as a repellent...

martian313 · 06-16-2008, 06:04 AM

hows that HM x BB coming on ?

Ulysses · 06-16-2008, 12:53 PM

Thank you for the interest...

Chimera's Highland Mex x BB is a winner in my book. Man, I love great genetics! I am already looking forward to my next run of this strain, and I haven't even smoked it yet!

All outdoor plants are remarkably uniform in growth pattern and genetic expression. The True Blueberry influence is quite evident yet has meshed flawlessly with the Mex genetics... My phenos are branching wildly, having a reddish purple branch coming off a green woody mainstem. In fact, on several, the mainstem has lost dominance to the branches... Keep in mind, I am bending these back at a 45* angle to hug the sun... Growth is strong from top to bottom, most plants didn't even lose the growth from the first 3 nodes- until I took them for clones, hehehe...

As you know, I only sprouted 5 beans. 4 female and 1 male... I keep the male plant in a special isolated male garden- a spot I had previously rejected due to less than optimal sun exposure. This spot is fairing the worst with the damn bugs sucking a 1mm diameter area from the leaf and then moving over a short bit and sucking it again. This eventually creates a 1mm hole in the leaf- leading up to a swiss cheese effect. Neem may prevent the insect from molting but the damage is done. I am happy to report of the strains in the male garden (BB, LP#2, HMxBB) that HMxBB is showing respectable insect resistance suffering only slight damage and it is only 3 feet away from the most damaged plant (a BB)... I have high hopes for a second generation!

Indoors, HMxBB is a bit more tricky- it became necessary to Scrog this plant around a tomato cage (Crog, ToCrog, Carog, nevermind)... I was able to 'snake' the mainstem around the outside of the cage having one branch of each node on the inside and one on the outside- they all grew straight up and almost form an even mini canopy... New growth on this plant is very rubbery like most landrace sativas but unlike blueberry which can get woody one node from the top of the plant. This strain would therefore make an excellent Scrog candidate- it think I am going to wrap the next run around cages from the get go...

This sole indoor HMxBB is in the 3rd week of flower and it's a bit nitrogen starved... Each feeding the plant grew 6-8" I swear! Stretch indoors will be a factor... I tried to limit it's N to just EWCs but it's eating N faster than I can pour it on... I'm going to hit it with some FF Fruit & Flower and hope it doesn't crash into the light again... I continue to rub the stem for that lovely scent which is only just turning from astringent to slightly citrus- I hope I get the subtle sweetness I can smell surrounding the garden in the plant itself! Wow! 7 to 8 weeks to go??? Whew!!!

martian313 · 06-19-2008, 10:36 PM

Nice up date Ulysses,

She is a beautiful plant isn't she ? It's interesting the citrus astringent notes this beauty gives off and they carried right through to the flowers in my experience.
Also I feel in retrospect that the cross carries some similarities to how DJ describes his Highland Thai and Purple Thai X Afghani F! crosses, woodsy, citrus and potent. Add the subtle sweet earthy floral /choco notes and you've got her nailed down. I bet the F2's and beyond will be unbelievable.

HAve you ever read the book "Weed" by Jerry Kamstra ? A friend of mine found a copy and passed it on. It is an account by the Californian author of his involvement in the mexican trade as a smuggler in the late '60's and 70's. In the book is a 30 page photo essay on the cultivation and preparation for export of "Dynamite" MJ by one of Guerrero's biggest producers of top shelf grass. These pictures were taken in '74 I think and Chimera states that the mexican used in this Cross was a circa '73 top quality Guerrero landrace.....I bet the chances that descendants of these specimens are the same that ended up in Chimera's lab are pretty high! . When I get a chance Ill scan the pics and upload for you to look at , it's a fascinating slice of history. Another interesting point is that in the book Kamstra indicates that Acapulco gold is a guerrero cultivated strain.

anyway best of luck with the quest

M313

martian313 · 06-19-2008, 10:43 PM

Well I guess Acapulco gold would be guerreran being that Acapulco is in Guerrero!!, what I meant was a highland Guerreran....

over an out m313

Ulysses · 06-21-2008, 06:26 PM

Wow! You are a wealth of information M313...

I would love to see those scans... I bet they would be very informative for the crowd here as well...

I am very psyched to hear about Acapulco/Guerreran genetic connection... I was looking into Reeferman's Apple Pie (Acapulco Gold x Highland Nepalese) but now, what's the point!

My outdoor girls have wet feet right now, and they are not loving it but the indoor dame is getting sticky 3 weeks into flower...

05-08-2008, 12:25 PM	#31
Ulysses Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 861	Floral, earthy, choco-lime! M313, you are killing me... How am I going to let them cure with a flavor description like that! I've been smoking the same ThaixSkunk for 2 years and I am sick of it!!! I'm already salivating and flower is months away, let alone dry and cure... Did you top your plants? What do you feed them?
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05-09-2008, 12:54 AM	#32
martian313 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125	Ulysses... Topped them like crazy to keep the size down, untopped I think the Mex dominates they... would be huge. Feeding was with a strong organic soil mix, with Guano top dressings later on and the odd top up with Plagron Alga bloom. How are yours coming along ? m313
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05-10-2008, 01:37 PM	#34
Ulysses Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 861	Well guys, they look great! I stretched them a little by adding some FF Plant Mix which contains guano. I got a torn bag for $10 thrown my way- couldn't say no... This went into the transplant mix- maybe a bit N heavy for them at this stage... They are on molassas, ewc, and a bit of maxi-crop and plant success mych... I have prepped buried 6 gal pots growing mycorrizzahe in the wild. I fill a 2 gallon grow bag with ewc and mulch and put that right into the pot so there will be a hole to receive the transplant. Then cover the whole mess with old rotting landscape fabric and dirt for cover... I'm shooting for monster bush! At least one will be straight into the ground- the old fashioned way... I want to take clones! I can't tell which one is the winner, they all look remarkably similar- not leaning toward Mex or BB either way, and giving off just your regular 'plant in veg' smell from a stem rub... Gonna have to take a cut(s) of all them. You can tell these plants want to be great- I hope the deer don't think so as well... The male is already on site and unmolested
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05-28-2008, 12:24 PM	#35
Ulysses Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 861	I had an opportunity to visit the Highland patch yesterday evening for an update... During veg, I bent the apical tip downward and fixed with a twist tie for a week or so to encourage branching... Well, branch it DID!!! These Highlanders are all over the place! I know I said I wanted a monster bush but I meant at Harvest! Transplant shock appears minimum but one got accidently topped high up (and I got a clone)... They are nearly 3 feet long and the branches about a foot long... I am in a dilemma as to whether or not to pinch the tips or just let them go freestyle... The 6 gallon pot size should limit the height somewhat... Also, there is heavy mychorriza and half doses of Fox Farms Fruit and Flower 5-8-6 already in the soil mix- I hope that's not too much nitrogen... The most interesting thing is the main stems are green-the fan leaf stems and side shoots are reddish purple... Makes good camo in the thorn patch! These ladies are still remarkably similar in appearance... They are exuding a subtle sweetish veg smell now that they are under the sun- it's distant and faint at 10 feet yet you can't pick it up with your face in the crown... This teasing scent alone sends my mind reeling with the potential taste, smell, and high of the finished product! I am having trouble with what I have identified as "Milk Weed Bug" nymphs sucking the sap from the new growth on my Love Potions- I'm smacking them down with Neem and Diatomateous Earth-- they are thus far ignoring the Highland Mex... I hope this bug resistance is a genetic trait... No deer problems yet, using human urine in half full gallon jugs stashed near the base of the plant as a repellent... Last edited by Ulysses; 06-16-2008 at 12:55 PM..
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06-16-2008, 06:04 AM	#36
martian313 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125	hows that HM x BB coming on ?
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06-16-2008, 12:53 PM	#37
Ulysses Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 861	Thank you for the interest... Chimera's Highland Mex x BB is a winner in my book. Man, I love great genetics! I am already looking forward to my next run of this strain, and I haven't even smoked it yet! All outdoor plants are remarkably uniform in growth pattern and genetic expression. The True Blueberry influence is quite evident yet has meshed flawlessly with the Mex genetics... My phenos are branching wildly, having a reddish purple branch coming off a green woody mainstem. In fact, on several, the mainstem has lost dominance to the branches... Keep in mind, I am bending these back at a 45* angle to hug the sun... Growth is strong from top to bottom, most plants didn't even lose the growth from the first 3 nodes- until I took them for clones, hehehe... As you know, I only sprouted 5 beans. 4 female and 1 male... I keep the male plant in a special isolated male garden- a spot I had previously rejected due to less than optimal sun exposure. This spot is fairing the worst with the damn bugs sucking a 1mm diameter area from the leaf and then moving over a short bit and sucking it again. This eventually creates a 1mm hole in the leaf- leading up to a swiss cheese effect. Neem may prevent the insect from molting but the damage is done. I am happy to report of the strains in the male garden (BB, LP#2, HMxBB) that HMxBB is showing respectable insect resistance suffering only slight damage and it is only 3 feet away from the most damaged plant (a BB)... I have high hopes for a second generation! Indoors, HMxBB is a bit more tricky- it became necessary to Scrog this plant around a tomato cage (Crog, ToCrog, Carog, nevermind)... I was able to 'snake' the mainstem around the outside of the cage having one branch of each node on the inside and one on the outside- they all grew straight up and almost form an even mini canopy... New growth on this plant is very rubbery like most landrace sativas but unlike blueberry which can get woody one node from the top of the plant. This strain would therefore make an excellent Scrog candidate- it think I am going to wrap the next run around cages from the get go... This sole indoor HMxBB is in the 3rd week of flower and it's a bit nitrogen starved... Each feeding the plant grew 6-8" I swear! Stretch indoors will be a factor... I tried to limit it's N to just EWCs but it's eating N faster than I can pour it on... I'm going to hit it with some FF Fruit & Flower and hope it doesn't crash into the light again... I continue to rub the stem for that lovely scent which is only just turning from astringent to slightly citrus- I hope I get the subtle sweetness I can smell surrounding the garden in the plant itself! Wow! 7 to 8 weeks to go??? Whew!!!
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06-19-2008, 10:36 PM	#38
martian313 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125	Nice up date Ulysses, She is a beautiful plant isn't she ? It's interesting the citrus astringent notes this beauty gives off and they carried right through to the flowers in my experience. Also I feel in retrospect that the cross carries some similarities to how DJ describes his Highland Thai and Purple Thai X Afghani F! crosses, woodsy, citrus and potent. Add the subtle sweet earthy floral /choco notes and you've got her nailed down. I bet the F2's and beyond will be unbelievable. HAve you ever read the book "Weed" by Jerry Kamstra ? A friend of mine found a copy and passed it on. It is an account by the Californian author of his involvement in the mexican trade as a smuggler in the late '60's and 70's. In the book is a 30 page photo essay on the cultivation and preparation for export of "Dynamite" MJ by one of Guerrero's biggest producers of top shelf grass. These pictures were taken in '74 I think and Chimera states that the mexican used in this Cross was a circa '73 top quality Guerrero landrace.....I bet the chances that descendants of these specimens are the same that ended up in Chimera's lab are pretty high! . When I get a chance Ill scan the pics and upload for you to look at , it's a fascinating slice of history. Another interesting point is that in the book Kamstra indicates that Acapulco gold is a guerrero cultivated strain. anyway best of luck with the quest M313
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06-19-2008, 10:43 PM	#39
martian313 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125	Well I guess Acapulco gold would be guerreran being that Acapulco is in Guerrero!!, what I meant was a highland Guerreran.... over an out m313
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06-21-2008, 06:26 PM	#40
Ulysses Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 861	Wow! You are a wealth of information M313... I would love to see those scans... I bet they would be very informative for the crowd here as well... I am very psyched to hear about Acapulco/Guerreran genetic connection... I was looking into Reeferman's Apple Pie (Acapulco Gold x Highland Nepalese) but now, what's the point! My outdoor girls have wet feet right now, and they are not loving it but the indoor dame is getting sticky 3 weeks into flower...
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