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Hooked-On-Grown · 12-19-2004, 12:44 AM

I was asked by a member to show how I make my Ebb & Flow tables.....err..tubs. I make almost all my E&F's......the hydro store wants too much for a table and a res. The only thing I can't find any where but the hydro store is the fill and drain fitting ($4.95) and the overflow kit ($3.95)
They look like this......

OK......pretty much any tupper ware tub can be used for a res. Depending on what size you need ...... they sell it. Here are a few examples I had laying around the house. I think they are only like 5 bucks for a large one........

I like to use a 55 gallon drum. I have access to free ones from a chinese warehouse. They get there Soy Sauce in 55 gallons drums from there factory. The guy has hundreds of them. Nice little resource :wink: They wash up fine with no smell. I usually only use the bottom half, and just cut it to size I want. They come with gallon markings on the side in 5 gal increments. The top has two caps....but I used once before ....and it started to leak one day....so I do not use the tops anymore.

OK....Now you have a res to hold the water. Now you need a table to go on top to hold the plants. Try and find one that has a pretty flat bottom. If not you can make a rack like I am about to show to help even it out. You can use any of the above tupper ware that you used for a res and use it for a table. Just cut it down to size. I like the long tupper ware tubs ....holds more plants.

The inside of the tub has the sides a little lower then the middle. I found these racks behind my grocery store.......the ones that are on the bread racks.......I thought they were trash....they were outside

So I take this rack.....

cut it to size.........

Fit it inside the tub.......

and cut holes for the fill and drain kit.

Use the smaller piece of the rack and cut it to size to fit in the tub......You can see in the pic how the rack creates a flat surface so the plants sit level.
Also lets the roots grow down into the rack and not be smashed under pots.

The fill and drain kit can be put on either the end or on the side or middle.....which ever you prefer. I use a 1-1/8" bit for the drain and a 1" for the fill. Pictured is the top and the bottom once installed......

You connect the 1/2 hose to the bottom of fill plug and connect the other side to the pump inside the res. Plug this pump to your digital timer. You need a second pump inside the res that runs 24/7. You want to constantly stir the nutes in the res to ensure proper distribution to the plants. The drain plug comes with a 1/2" PVC pipe that you cut to size according to the size of plants you are using. It is a overflow pipe that lets you set the level of water in the table while being flooded.......which runs right back into the res.

I needed a table for my 12 White Rhino clones to get some root develpoement before going into buckets........so this was good timing.
I cleaned the tub....res and drain kit. plugged in pumps....set timer to water at 8am....4pm....12am. I added a air pump and 4" air stone to help ciculate the res. I also used two slats of wood and put under neath res to help keep good support. I have two systems under a 1000w HPS. My other 2 mH's are being used.

To sum it up.....all you need is a container to hold water......a container to hold plants. Try and make a flat surface inside for plants to sit on. Add fill and drain kit. Connect hose to fill pump. plug in circ. pump.......set timer.
You are ready to grow.

12-19-2004, 12:51 AM

Man the is "Ghetto Fab" HOG

I started eyin all my tubes for suitable canidates.hehe

Tex

mrwags · 12-19-2004, 01:09 AM

All of our local grocery stores will never be the same now.

Hog yet again you prove your are gold my friend.

Mr.Wags

12-19-2004, 01:43 AM

Kool, I like getto builds. Quick question, why run the 2nd recirc pump. Having the air stone bubbling 24/7 should do the same thing and not add any xtra heat to the rez dont ya think.

70s

12-19-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Texas Kid

Man the is "Ghetto Fab" HOG

Tex

LMAO... HOG is a friggin Mcgyver... I have several of those big rubbermaids... you have me thinking outside the table.

Hooked-On-Grown · 12-19-2004, 01:46 AM

true 70'spothead......... It is probably not neccesary to have a second pump for circ in a smaller res. I have the double set-up in my 55 gal res w/ no problems of heat.

mybeans420 · 12-19-2004, 01:51 AM

ghetto fab indeed!!!

excellent post there hog. i'll never look at my rubbermaid tubs the same way again.

peace
beans

Hooked-On-Grown · 12-19-2004, 01:58 AM

I have created a bad habbit....... I constantly am sizing things up where ever I go...

"oh man......that would make a great res.."
"hey....buy that ....its a perfect table...."

Looking at the stuff in my moms garage........sheeeezzz

Xtrakritical · 12-19-2004, 02:13 AM

Ha ha ha Great show HOG!

I been having the same problem sizing things up all the time now myself!

Im gonna start callin ya Mr. Fix it!

Harry Gypsna · 12-19-2004, 03:04 AM

I do the same thing HOG, hehe, i even walk around industrialareas looking up at alll the HID security lamps, and thinking, now if only i get the fucker down, lol. Thanks HOG 4 doing this, its a good `1,u done it different to how i thought, i thought u had actually cut a big blue drum in half, lengthways(like ppl do with metal ones to make a bar-b-q) and used that as the tray section, see, good job i asked 1st, or id av fucked my b lue drum right up, hehehe. Im gonna try the other hydro shop for a fill/drain fitting, and the overflow, coz my usual guy says he only gets em as part of a system, i sed, what if got 1 and need a new part, he shrugged, not much customer service, lol.

12-19-2004, 12:44 AM	#1
Hooked-On-Grown Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: I'm in here.....somewhere... Posts: 2,158	Ebb & Flow.....made easy I was asked by a member to show how I make my Ebb & Flow tables.....err..tubs. I make almost all my E&F's......the hydro store wants too much for a table and a res. The only thing I can't find any where but the hydro store is the fill and drain fitting ($4.95) and the overflow kit ($3.95) They look like this...... OK......pretty much any tupper ware tub can be used for a res. Depending on what size you need ...... they sell it. Here are a few examples I had laying around the house. I think they are only like 5 bucks for a large one........ I like to use a 55 gallon drum. I have access to free ones from a chinese warehouse. They get there Soy Sauce in 55 gallons drums from there factory. The guy has hundreds of them. Nice little resource :wink: They wash up fine with no smell. I usually only use the bottom half, and just cut it to size I want. They come with gallon markings on the side in 5 gal increments. The top has two caps....but I used once before ....and it started to leak one day....so I do not use the tops anymore. OK....Now you have a res to hold the water. Now you need a table to go on top to hold the plants. Try and find one that has a pretty flat bottom. If not you can make a rack like I am about to show to help even it out. You can use any of the above tupper ware that you used for a res and use it for a table. Just cut it down to size. I like the long tupper ware tubs ....holds more plants. The inside of the tub has the sides a little lower then the middle. I found these racks behind my grocery store.......the ones that are on the bread racks.......I thought they were trash....they were outside So I take this rack..... cut it to size......... Fit it inside the tub....... and cut holes for the fill and drain kit. Use the smaller piece of the rack and cut it to size to fit in the tub......You can see in the pic how the rack creates a flat surface so the plants sit level. Also lets the roots grow down into the rack and not be smashed under pots. The fill and drain kit can be put on either the end or on the side or middle.....which ever you prefer. I use a 1-1/8" bit for the drain and a 1" for the fill. Pictured is the top and the bottom once installed...... You connect the 1/2 hose to the bottom of fill plug and connect the other side to the pump inside the res. Plug this pump to your digital timer. You need a second pump inside the res that runs 24/7. You want to constantly stir the nutes in the res to ensure proper distribution to the plants. The drain plug comes with a 1/2" PVC pipe that you cut to size according to the size of plants you are using. It is a overflow pipe that lets you set the level of water in the table while being flooded.......which runs right back into the res. I needed a table for my 12 White Rhino clones to get some root develpoement before going into buckets........so this was good timing. I cleaned the tub....res and drain kit. plugged in pumps....set timer to water at 8am....4pm....12am. I added a air pump and 4" air stone to help ciculate the res. I also used two slats of wood and put under neath res to help keep good support. I have two systems under a 1000w HPS. My other 2 mH's are being used. To sum it up.....all you need is a container to hold water......a container to hold plants. Try and make a flat surface inside for plants to sit on. Add fill and drain kit. Connect hose to fill pump. plug in circ. pump.......set timer. You are ready to grow.
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12-19-2004, 01:51 AM	#7
mybeans420 resident slackass Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: somewhere that has a pool table Posts: 1,053	ghetto fab indeed!!! excellent post there hog. i'll never look at my rubbermaid tubs the same way again. peace beans __________________ "POWER TO THE PEACEFUL" micheal franti LET LOVE GUIDE YOU LEAVE YOUR CLOWNSHOES AND YOUR NEGATIVITY AT THE DOOR PLEASE.. THANK YOU "The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." Albert Einstein, "My First Impression of the U.S.A.", 1921 "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." Abraham Lincoln, U.S. President. 18 Dec. 1840 PLEASE don't PM me for seeds or cuts,.. Thank you
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12-19-2004, 02:13 AM	#9
Xtrakritical Super Stoner With new and improved early fuckry detection. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 695	Ha ha ha Great show HOG! I been having the same problem sizing things up all the time now myself! Im gonna start callin ya Mr. Fix it! __________________ F.U.C.K.E.M. Quality Control Specialist Here's to good friends... BLAH!
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12-19-2004, 03:04 AM	#10
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	I do the same thing HOG, hehe, i even walk around industrialareas looking up at alll the HID security lamps, and thinking, now if only i get the fucker down, lol. Thanks HOG 4 doing this, its a good `1,u done it different to how i thought, i thought u had actually cut a big blue drum in half, lengthways(like ppl do with metal ones to make a bar-b-q) and used that as the tray section, see, good job i asked 1st, or id av fucked my b lue drum right up, hehehe. Im gonna try the other hydro shop for a fill/drain fitting, and the overflow, coz my usual guy says he only gets em as part of a system, i sed, what if got 1 and need a new part, he shrugged, not much customer service, lol. __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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12-19-2004, 12:51 AM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Man the is "Ghetto Fab" HOG I started eyin all my tubes for suitable canidates.hehe Tex
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12-19-2004, 01:09 AM	#3
mrwags ********* Female Seeds Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,493	All of our local grocery stores will never be the same now. Hog yet again you prove your are gold my friend. Mr.Wags
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12-19-2004, 01:43 AM	#4
70s_PotHead Guest Posts: n/a	Kool, I like getto builds. Quick question, why run the 2nd recirc pump. Having the air stone bubbling 24/7 should do the same thing and not add any xtra heat to the rez dont ya think. 70s
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12-19-2004, 01:46 AM	#6
Hooked-On-Grown Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: I'm in here.....somewhere... Posts: 2,158	true 70'spothead......... It is probably not neccesary to have a second pump for circ in a smaller res. I have the double set-up in my 55 gal res w/ no problems of heat.
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12-19-2004, 01:58 AM	#8
Hooked-On-Grown Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: I'm in here.....somewhere... Posts: 2,158	I have created a bad habbit....... I constantly am sizing things up where ever I go... "oh man......that would make a great res.." "hey....buy that ....its a perfect table...." Looking at the stuff in my moms garage........sheeeezzz
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