i have started a grow in pro mix hp.

using the whole 2 part plus program with vho. everything was going good for a couple of weeks and then i noticed ph problems after multiple ph test ive done with the medium i find that the ph is at 6.8 i tried using some water at a ph of 5.5, it didnt budge. then i went to 5.0, still nothing. then i finally used 1/2 ml ph down to a quart of water and still the ph is stuck at 6.8.

i think the barricade is building up in my medium and messin with the ph.

anybody done a soilless grow with sensi 2 part, should i stop using barricade.

i just transplanted my wappa mother in to a 4.5 gallon bucket. she was previously in a 2 gallon bucket.

i hope the new soilless mix that shes in will fis the ph

i need some insight please

[DirtDoctor]

Barricade is highly alkaline. When mixing it into your rez, dissolve it first in warm water. Let the rez stand for at least an hour (or overnight) before adjusting the pH and feeding.

At this point, I'd probably stop adding it if I were you. I've only ever used it as a supplement 2 or 3 times per cycle, not with every feeding.


good luck!

yes i always disolve it in 2 cups of very warm water and add it to my gallon of water the day prior to mixing.

i will stop using it now.

just out of curiosity why do they recomend it with every time you feed? seem like an has to work some "bugs" out of their nute recipes a little

also when i mix up nutes according to the nute calculator they always come out way off target as far as EC is concerned

[DIGITALHIPPY]

soiless is considerd hyodroponic medium from what i understand...
so 6.8 is the proper ph...
barricade should only be used 2-3 times a crop.
any pics? it dosent sound like any problems to me, but maybe the pics show a def.

hey digi hippy, i was just checking out your shed and i LIKE it you seem like the kinda guy id get along with great.

any way you use AN and so do i i want to know do you follow the 2+ program, because lately it seems to me that it still could use a little tweaking and i am reluctant to follow it to the letter any more. i have all the stuff in the 2+ program and also i have sensical grow, vho, jumpstart, and i am waiting on my emerald shaman to get here.

tell me what is a good way to take advantage of all these sweet an products i have, i see that you use ffof as your medium and use an with it, how do you use AN stuff with you soil mix as i have a mother in promix and i started germinating some speed queens and sadhu in light warrior, and they will be transplanted into FFOF, how long after the transplant shuld i start giving them anything. as i heard that FFOF is pretty nutrient rich and you dont need to fert. much in it.

i have been lurking around this site quite some time ( since last may) and every time i seen your posts in threads i thought to my self that guy got his shit down right, hes not a bull shitter. so being that we both have an arsenal of AN stuff i would like your advice with how to use it properly, because their tech support told me to follow the nute calc. and ill be fine. but they were telling me that way back when all i had was sensi 2 part and big bud.(how would i follow the recomedations for the 2+program when i barely have any of the products that are required to mix it)

honestly i value your opinion and would be very greatful for some insight with AN stuff and how you use it

i was thinking myabe use base nutes with the fulvic and humic, then add some b-52 & barricade & mest. then give them this, then when they need water again i would give them the benies with some carboload. then the next two waterings just plain water.and repete this. and somewhere in their hit them with some sensicall.

i do foliar with pirahna and tarantula and it is the shit it really adds to the plants vigour i must say.

[DIGITALHIPPY]

Evil indica-
SICK MAN!!thanks for the comments...



ive been using AN for quite a few years, actualy i started with GH, then i moved from the flora to the nova GH... then i started using AN additives...the light opend up on me...but i was doing all that with rockwool and 5 gal buckets, started in a 2x3 table with ntf 24/7watering...
long story it was alot of work...
personaly ive grown in NFT, EBB&flow, soil, DWC, RW BED in sog style and i find soil to be the easiest. and if your using good soil (light warrior & happy frog are better then ffof because they have micorizza in it) nutes use is minimal. although i have to agree the rockwool method shaves a few weeks off the whole process... i dont know how. but the roots inside a soil 5 gal bucket are 4-10x bigger then what ive seen in a NFT 5gal bucket or even my RW cube bed (i used 4 bags @ 40$ a piece to make the bed plus 24 4x4x4 cubes so it adds up fast) also if you look at the measurements with the soil/hydro you use like 10x the nutes in hydro.











i lost this run due to a pythium problem when socal was hit with a big heatwave....but its prime example of what 2 weeks will get you in NFT rw baskets.it was piecemeal though i didnt have enough plants..
you can see the 1 gal jugs, and voodoo juice...haha well..voodoo..

this sog took me two weeks to get from clone to rdy to flip





ok sorry im hijacking this sh!t..
these all work great but there alot of work, the soil is easy. pirahna, voodoo, organic-b, mother earth tea, sensical...and with soiless just add your two part...i like the fulvic and humic. plus with my new minimalist use it lasts forever. just like this VHO..and barricade.. barricade is awsome to have btw.. 2-4 ml's per 5 gal bucket (watering) and i have piece of mind my girls will get the right PH...without checking. but if i dont use it i started checking more often, since, well since my bloom sensical fed my crop...
barricade, pirhana, organic-b, mother earth tea, seaweed, f/h acid, carbload, big bud, sensical are the requirements. all at diff times tho. voodoo is nice, but you dont need it, as is bud blood, there both expensive.

collosal bud blast organic b and pirhana are the best for foliar, wet betty helps, also lasts forever.

ok so back to your spacific use. promix is fantastic from what i here. treat it just like FFOF, or light warrior(LW) as i was saying earlier LW is better then FFOF anyways...so use that if you got it. 5 gal bucket... drill a hole in the bottom and double bucket them so your waterproof. personaly i use extra buckets to adjust the heitght so the canopy is even as possible.
use pirhana org-b (b52, org-b is better tho) f/h acid at about a week, you can use pirhana and tarrantula if you have it @ .3-.5 per L (just thoes two) when the seeds are sprouting to increase vitality.....i quit following AN nute reg after the first year i started to get a feel for how much the plants wanted...so i use 1-3ml's per gal when there less then 2 weeks, and inbetween i use RO + sensical so the 'feedings' are usuauly only weekly atleast with all the goodies.otherwise they burn fast. at about 2-3 weeks step it up.. the MET(mother earth tea) is the best cornerstone for soil gardens... MET organic b and intermitant feedings of budblood, big bud, f/hA's, seaweed was the cornerstone of my regimine.. i hope you have a PPM meter... get one the blue hanna is great if you dont drop it in water.

the mother should be fine with sensical/met combos (usualy RO+ sensical every other w/ ro+sensical/met) with intermitant carbs and seeweed/org-b (every week or two depending) spray with VHO foliar(every day for 1.5 weeks) and pirhana(once) fulv A(if u want) if you need mad clones...stop treatment after clones picked let her recover.. cut the nute use to 1/2 or 2/3 the ppms as before clones taken..

the AN 'cloneIT' and 'jumpstart' are a godsend, i used to juggle so many hoops to get a clone, now i get 99% survival. the big 'mono' clone dome is to help though.

when you talk about 'plain water' i hope your using RO /distilled water tap water instantly kills all the bennies...chloriene/chomiene...get couple 5 gal jugs and get glacier machine water if u can thats what i do, or a brita filter?

tarantula dosent work as good as pirhana in my experiance..
sweeatleaf is useless, made my strain taste/smell funny i replaced it with 'atami(biobizz) flavor[0-0-9]npk' just personaly though.
i use sensizyme only intermitantly... once per crop maybe?
and when i recycle dirt i fill it all into a biggass rubermaid trunk mix it up, remove the roots and give it alot of RO+sensizyme mix it so its moist and let it dry for a couple weeks.
bloom sensical is useless, voodoo is expensive use sparingly. i never even use my emerald shaman its thick and i dont notice a differance. it just makes me feel good. the scorpion juice is marginal on a few reasons, its expensive, not proven to do much, its easy to make your own siscylic(spell?) acid. soak some new willow branches in warm water overnight ....remove the branch, then dilute to 200-300ppm with RO and your good.

i guess Weedfarmer is down but there pics are ok, so i gobbled up all my pics there, and tried to delete my acct. (hosted by watermark)
ill let some of this absorb..

so digital hippy from what issounds lik you don't use any base nutrients other than mest, you don't use like sensi 2 part, or iguana juice or sensi one, gmb?

you just phase feed with a lot of supplements and use the mest as you "base" nutes?

i have the hanna dist 4 ec meter (i think its the one you are refering to) also i have a control wizard dipstick that is "dead on balls accurate". i have the hanna PHeP for solution and water ph and i have the control wizard soil ph and moisture meter w/12" probe (this is the very best soil ph meter ive used to date, no cal required all you do is buff the metal rings out and store it completely dry)

i use ro water and never used tap water (here it reads like 500 ppm, no BS, and i get it from the water company not a well or anything. i started drinking and using RO water for cooking and makin coffee)

i was thinking like this after the plants have a couple sets of leaves to make a mixture like this for a gallon of RO water: mest at like somethin like 1/4-1/3 strength with b-52 (i dont have org. B) 1/3-1/2 strength h/f acid and all the bennies (voodoo, tarantul, pirahna),and hygrozyme,and barricade disolved a day prior to this gallon to be used.

then water plain ph adjusted nest time, and then sensi 2 part grow at like .57 ec (400 ppm) and sensical at 1 ml per liter instead of 1.25 per liter.

i was going to volly back and fortth 2-3 times like that. then ill cut the bennies out and the barricade and then go with sensi 2 part h/f acid, mestgrow, & sensical and a little bit (like 5-8 ml/l). then, water ph'd, water, this paragraphs mix, water ,water.

do you think this will give my ladies all they need? i pretty much positive i could not burn them in any way with this regimine. maybe they might be a little underfed??

yeah i started oout 2 years ago with using a little grow cab i built that had 150 hps ( i have a future brite digita 150 watt ballast that was 80 buck with the unifier hood and bulb) and it has 8 ceramic sockets for cfl. the grow system was the base part of the armoire ws cut to accomadate nine 8" pots that had a 50/50 mix of perlite and vericulite with wicks that hung down to the first drawer which was the res. was using tap water with gh flora nutes.and bagseed. with a couple alright resultws of that i got a settlement down the road.and

i built my closet laid it out brotha!

i have sentinal digital recyc. timers that ruinthe ventilation for the lights and atsmosphere. a cap co2 monitor and controler. vortex 4" and 6" sontrolling lights ventilationand room respectivly. and a 600 watt future brite ballast and air cooled reflector and also there is a 250 watt future brite inthere too along with a 200 watt cfl that i use for a little vegging before they get to flower and i also put mh bulb in the 250 and a blue bulb i the cfl socket for more uvb during the last couple wks of flower. the closet was originally st up for drain to waste TOP FEED DRIP, but scrapped that idea after a "too complicated of a grow" and started back to the soiless mixes.

i use the original box i built to house 4 mother plants whch are 1 wappa plant (paradise) a sadhu (mandala) and an aurora indica plant (nirvana) and i am growing out six speed queens in my 600 watt closet for selection of my forth mother plant (hopefully!) to put inthe armoire with the rest of the mothers..

then ill clone and pre veg in the mother chamber and move the clones over to the main closet for a little more veg under the mh and 200 watt cfl and then i give them the 12/12 after like 2 weeks veggin.

last three weeks i cut the co2 and run ventilation constant and turn on all the lights 600, 250, and 200 cfl.

the closet dimensions are 5ft X 2ft X 8ft

last run with the wappa clones i got a around a pound of sticky ohh wee i think i should have gotten like close to 2 pounds though (1050 watts of light should of been 1050 grams)

i also just got my advanced and prior to this i was using technaflora (crap).

[DIGITALHIPPY]

whats mest ? mother earth tea?(MET)

i use the FFOF as my "base nutes" its holds enough NPK to keep them happy inbetween feedings. the MET holds alot of nutes and i use somewhere inbetween the two feeding regimines... (about 120ml /5gal 3weeks veg) i think thoes stories of disolving the barricade in water a day before are hooey.. i never had any mixing problems, i also use a wisk and vigoruosely mix my nutes before feeding. although it is thick. especialy when cold. the voodoo & p/t are good bennies but only use them 2-3 times for each crop. once early veg once lateveg/early flower i usualy use a bit in my clone medium and as clone foliar and whenever i transplant, keeping to the 2-3 times rule. the other nutes sounds like your doing ok, but i never feed 'plain water' it throws off the balance in the plant i seen to notice... i usualy throw in 300-400 ppms of sensical, i also notice defs if i dont use sensical when i use my RO. maybe a day or two after a plain watering the leafs get lighter...

i got to go ill be back with part 2

[DIGITALHIPPY]

ok, sorry im at work..
anyways i had a control plant and it didnt get any of the connie (50$/L x2) but all the same bennies, and extra met, big bud, and it faired really well. so im axing the 2/3 part completely completely on this run and it see how it works. im essentialy trying to save as much cash and still get a phat crop. i used to buy into the ideas, but after spying around here and reading alot of threads. blah blah..

i think the 2 part is good formula, next year when i move into this house i plan on using it again, i have 2 L's of the sensibloom A&B id like to finish up, and id like to run a tray of the same plants in a connie based mix and compare the two.. but your in soiless so u need a 2/3part, i dont like 3 part but if your a lucas formula grower it seams to work....

im also shooting for a 95% organic grow on this run, my only synthetic ive used has been budblood...

im wondering if you might be better of to use 1/4 the formula and give it sonsistant mix of everything...
you know i missed what your temps are i just reread ur post...
if your tempes are hot like 80+/- then your plant will be evaporating alot of water..so your idea of ro / ro /feed / ro etc. might be better. dosent sound like your using major wattage so no need for spectacular cooling....
do u have a cam? can u post a pic of that 200w cfl? or a link
im looking for somthing like that for my moms...

i also didnt see if your using 2 part in the promix your moms are in...
the seedlings also will turn out to be more female with cooler temps, and blue light... maybe a 14/10 or 16/8 day pattern to promote more girls. ive done about 60 or 70 of my og kush seeds and used to get a 60m/40f ratio but with that i got a 45m/65f ratio... not alot higher but enough...

sounds like you got a phat closet going.....
that perpetual style is my fav also...

i have a camera but just not a usb to hook it up to the comp. and i have a dial up connection and my shit is super slowwwww.

the bulb is not 200 watts it is 150 watts and its made by eco-plus. www.nationalgardenwholesale.com future brite makes a 200 watt but it requires a remote ballast. they only like 89 buck tho.


yeah i like to have all my bases covered i dont beleive in cutting corners when it comes to equipment.

my moms are in soiless yes.

i have some seedlings germinating in light warrior, and when they oout grow their 4" square pot they are going into a ocean forest based mix maybe 2:1 FFOF to FFLW.

my temps never excede what i let them as in the summer my house is central airconditioned and in the winter i just let the heat stay at like 66 deg. so all i have to do to keep temps were i want them is to add more ventilation cycles or cut the cycles down

for instance when i transplant my baby speed queens into their 2:1 FFOF-FFLW i could use the nutes in the ocean forest and just supplement with my AN stuff.

give me a routine, thats fairly easy to understand, to feed my plants that will be in the ocean forst. mix. if you don't mind.

also i got from your post that being in soiless mix i have to have a base nute like sensi 2 prt. cause the medium is pretty much void of any nutrition? what would be a good routine for my moms and vegatative plants in the soilless mix (pro mix LW at a 3:1 ratio)

also what are the symptoms that arise if you were to over populate/innoculate bennies, dont they use up a lot of a certain nutrient like phosphorous or potassium?

also i hate to bombard you w/Q's but, should i ever follow the nute calc i dont mean on the amounts, but the style in which they apply the products.

so also you are saying that i should give them sensical water in between major feedings. like you said you use the FFOF as the base nutes so what would you typically feed the plants when they want food? lets say you fed you plants a feeding two waterings ago and you noticed that the leaves were looking hungry, what would you mix up to feed them.

my mother who has just went through 2 transplants in the last two weeks, has sprung back to life 3 days ago and she is do for some nutes, she is in a pro mix (3 parts) & light war. (1.5 parts). she was droopy all week and new growth was looking twisted and like i said she really sprung back to life. what should i give her?

i was thinking about .7 or .8 ec of sensi 2 part grow w/ mother earth tea humic and fulvic b-52. i will ad the supplements somewhat simmilar to the nute calcs recomendation just less.

also i know its recomended to only use the bennies 2X during veg, but does sensizyme fall into this catagory, i mean should i use it only 2X also.

i use hygrozyme because my dude ad D.A.N. said when i was ordering that there has been a lot of complaints with sensizyme and that there was a bad batch and i should use hygrozyme untill they ship him some new sensizyme that is not "dead".

let me know what you think as my mum is due for a feed and i don't want to feed her wrong or to much/not enough.