[ptl32]

Hey i just got some blue streak starting and im so used to LST training because i got such a tiny grow space (2x1x1.5) L x w x h ... so im wondering since they flower so quickly would there be any benifit in scrogging or lst training blue streaks or any AF strain? could you increase yeild by producing an even canopy with as many bud sites getting even light?

[mdanzig]

Yes, it would be good to do that. Blue Streak is bigger in height, and way vigorous.

[Kizzattack]

Aparently even LSTing a Lowryder has its benefits, although the Lowryders I grew only reached about 7 inches tall.

I will be LSTing my Bluestreak. I'm sure it will benefit it more than other auto-flowering strains, although the male can stay how it is. I think someone tried LSTing an auto-flowering strain or 2 on Highbred, but it's down so I can't confirm this, but I deffinatly remember somewhere someone reporting improved yeilds using LST, just can't remember where or what strain.

[krazycure]

I LSTed lowryder with pipe cleaners awhlie back, improving yields alot. Check pics... tons of tops and whatnot

[Killuminatti]

What did you yield with those 2 lowryders, krazycure?

[who dat is]

I was wondering why you butchered all of your fan leaves? Did you do that so that more light could reach bud sites or because you wanted more of the plants energy to go to flowering than big fan leaves?

[ptl32]

I'd love to know yield aswell... its very encouraging to see pics like that so fair play ... did you have a grow log going for that one ? if so can i have the link.

As for why he got rid of the fan leaves is because with such a tight space like he must have had and with lst the fan leaves get feck all light anyway ... and with cfl there is hardly any penitration through the canopy so only the top gets light.

This mixed with the fact that less fan leaves down the bottom means more air exchange through the leaves and less humidity gathering ... lowers the chance of budrot dramatically.

[krazycure]

What did you yield with those 2 lowryders, krazycure? 3 oz + trim for hash

I was wondering why you butchered all of your fan leaves? Tight space, slightly inadequate ventilation... the leaves 'sweat' during the lights-off period and were leaving minerals deposits everywhere... by giving them a haircut it increased airflow and vitality.

Did you do that so that more light could reach bud sites or because you wanted more of the plants energy to go to flowering than big fan leaves? Neither, just to increase airflow. If you have the space and the circulation, you might as well leaves fan leaves on until they die, unaltered.

did you have a grow log going for that one ? yes, full log was on highbred....it was HPS 150W btw.

[gunnaknow]

Nice work Krazycure! That's 0.56 grams per watt. That's very impressive, especially when you consider that you used a 150w HPS, which isn't a very efficient lamp. With a 400-600w HPS you could expect about 25% more, or around 0.7g per watt. Those are the kind of figures that you'd expect a decent grower to get from an above average yielding strain, not from an AF strain. Very impressive for an AF strain. Great job! Incidentally, you don't happen to have a pic of the plants when fully ripe do you?

I think that one of the main challenges in the way of getting a decent yield from AF strains is the fact that they take up so much root space and therefore floor space. Without training, the roots take up more floor space than the aerial growth and alot of the growroom space and light is wasted. I've seen alot of diaries where growers have their AF plants in huge pots, yet the aerial growth only uses up a small portion of the floor space used by the pot. Training enables the plants to make use of this wasted floor space and receive more light, which naturally leads to greater yields.

[mdanzig]

Yes, krazycure did do a great job indeed!