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ThaiPhoon · 02-01-2008, 10:52 PM

Awesome input jaykush and bongsong...
jaykush your mixes look awesome...I remember seeing you post those somewhere before! The link I have seen as well.
I think the aging of the TP mixes is quite important. Other things I have read suggest that a fresh mix may stunt plants, but they seem to recover quickly once its settles down...

The rice husk charcoal is great. No need to grind it up, its almost like micronised charcoal. It holds an amazing amount of water. Very sponge like, and it blends in very very well with the other soil components.

I'm with JayKush, time to smoke and think...

jaykush · 02-02-2008, 06:57 PM

some info on biochar and its effect on mycorrhiza, theres some data and reading, i couldnt read all the data because its sideways and i couldnt hold me head like that for long.

https://biochar.info/index.cfm?view=5...FWarnock%2Epdf

ThaiPhoon · 02-02-2008, 11:09 PM

Holy smokes JK, I hope I am reading that chart properly. (my viewer has a rotate option)
Looks like the biochar has a very significant positive effect on the microherd! At least on the myco they were testing. Thanks for that!

SilverSurfer_OG · 02-03-2008, 05:31 AM

This is all excellent work guys

The microbes must colonise the charcoal pretty quick... do you think they could also lie dormant if the charcoal dries out ready to burst back into life?

Heres my 3 remaining Buddahs and a Mexican sat on the far left in orginal coco/charcoal mix.

From left to right - coco/charcoal, coco, soil, soil/charcoal

Hey Bongsong thats interesting with your peppers... You also use the 30% charcoal rate recommended in the article... any pics?

My clones are taking their time but should be ready soon. I have small bag activated charcoal made from coconuts on hand to use and my original mix.

Smurf · 02-03-2008, 12:16 PM

Bit of a stiff neck from that pdf file.

Found an excellent ABC documentary (11mins) about TP from that same biochar link.
You can watch it with either windows media or realplayer.....

https://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s2012892.htm

02-03-2008, 04:55 PM

I'll try get pics guys I don't own a camera so must borrow...

Yep, 30% charcoal. It mixes (breaks up) far easier with a metal spade edge just dropped on it (metal handle too, quite heavy). Ramming it large mortar and pestle style was much more work. Wet it first folks, don't want to breathe it.

Let's hear it for iron tools!

jaykush · 02-03-2008, 05:22 PM

Bongsong just wet the charcoal first, let it drain some then smash no dust and it works into a nice airy paste texture perfect for amending. i used a bag and a brick, smash! smash!

Smurf · 02-03-2008, 10:18 PM

Same here... normally soak in a bucket using tea,, then ,,,a bag and a sledge hammer, a brick would be better tho.

02-04-2008, 06:33 AM

I kept breaking my bag so went for the bucket and broke that so I (hehe) Got the 4x2 and pulverised it in bottom of a barrel and splintered that up and then I got a steel tool and haven't broke that yet.

I'm so glad we're out of the dark ages. If it wasn't for steel tools and industrial barrels I'd be pounding it into the ground with a stick.

ABC Documentary? You guys get moving pictures?

Smurf · 02-04-2008, 06:52 AM

02-01-2008, 10:52 PM	#61
ThaiPhoon Tropical Organic Gardener Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 620	Awesome input jaykush and bongsong... jaykush your mixes look awesome...I remember seeing you post those somewhere before! The link I have seen as well. I think the aging of the TP mixes is quite important. Other things I have read suggest that a fresh mix may stunt plants, but they seem to recover quickly once its settles down... The rice husk charcoal is great. No need to grind it up, its almost like micronised charcoal. It holds an amazing amount of water. Very sponge like, and it blends in very very well with the other soil components. I'm with JayKush, time to smoke and think... Last edited by ThaiPhoon; 02-01-2008 at 10:57 PM..
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02-02-2008, 06:57 PM	#62
jaykush dirty black hands Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the old growth forest Posts: 4,990	some info on biochar and its effect on mycorrhiza, theres some data and reading, i couldnt read all the data because its sideways and i couldnt hold me head like that for long. https://biochar.info/index.cfm?view=5...FWarnock%2Epdf __________________ “Everything is written in the book of nature. This book is always open.” sepp holzer
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02-02-2008, 11:09 PM	#63
ThaiPhoon Tropical Organic Gardener Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 620	Holy smokes JK, I hope I am reading that chart properly. (my viewer has a rotate option) Looks like the biochar has a very significant positive effect on the microherd! At least on the myco they were testing. Thanks for that!
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02-03-2008, 05:31 AM	#64
SilverSurfer_OG Living Organic Soil... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oz Posts: 1,930	This is all excellent work guys The microbes must colonise the charcoal pretty quick... do you think they could also lie dormant if the charcoal dries out ready to burst back into life? Heres my 3 remaining Buddahs and a Mexican sat on the far left in orginal coco/charcoal mix. From left to right - coco/charcoal, coco, soil, soil/charcoal Hey Bongsong thats interesting with your peppers... You also use the 30% charcoal rate recommended in the article... any pics? My clones are taking their time but should be ready soon. I have small bag activated charcoal made from coconuts on hand to use and my original mix. __________________ Happy happy, joy joy - Stimpson J.Cat Dr. Richard Lindzen MIT "Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life." Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere - Martin L.King Jr Terra Preta Dark Soil Experiment Recycled Organic Living Soil Organic Fanatics Australia Last edited by SilverSurfer_OG; 02-03-2008 at 05:42 AM..
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02-03-2008, 12:16 PM	#65
Smurf stoke this joint Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: down under Posts: 1,570	Bit of a stiff neck from that pdf file. Found an excellent ABC documentary (11mins) about TP from that same biochar link. You can watch it with either windows media or realplayer..... https://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s2012892.htm __________________ Life is what you make it.... be good... if not... at least be good at it
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02-03-2008, 04:55 PM	#66
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I'll try get pics guys I don't own a camera so must borrow... Yep, 30% charcoal. It mixes (breaks up) far easier with a metal spade edge just dropped on it (metal handle too, quite heavy). Ramming it large mortar and pestle style was much more work. Wet it first folks, don't want to breathe it. Let's hear it for iron tools!
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02-03-2008, 05:22 PM	#67
jaykush dirty black hands Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the old growth forest Posts: 4,990	Bongsong just wet the charcoal first, let it drain some then smash no dust and it works into a nice airy paste texture perfect for amending. i used a bag and a brick, smash! smash! __________________ “Everything is written in the book of nature. This book is always open.” sepp holzer
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02-03-2008, 10:18 PM	#68
Smurf stoke this joint Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: down under Posts: 1,570	Same here... normally soak in a bucket using tea,, then ,,,a bag and a sledge hammer, a brick would be better tho. __________________ Life is what you make it.... be good... if not... at least be good at it
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02-04-2008, 06:33 AM	#69
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I kept breaking my bag so went for the bucket and broke that so I (hehe) Got the 4x2 and pulverised it in bottom of a barrel and splintered that up and then I got a steel tool and haven't broke that yet. I'm so glad we're out of the dark ages. If it wasn't for steel tools and industrial barrels I'd be pounding it into the ground with a stick. ABC Documentary? You guys get moving pictures?
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02-04-2008, 06:52 AM	#70
Smurf stoke this joint Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: down under Posts: 1,570	__________________ Life is what you make it.... be good... if not... at least be good at it
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