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Old 11-01-2007, 10:22 AM #1
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Lowrider / Masterlow grow - NEED HELP - very dwarf...

Hello all!

I'am a french grower, and i want help!! There isn't a lot of forum in france who know how to grow lowrider and lowrider hybrids... I'am lost, my lowrider and my masterlow are really dwarf!!!

This is my 2nd attempt, 1st one was with mg125w (veg+flower), pics of day 13 (lowrider#2):




In my second attempt, i use an hps 150w (to improve yield... but that's seem's to be worst..):

At day 11 : RIDICULOUS :

Masterlow :




Lowrider#2:



I have an T° of 24°C and une humidity of 50%.
Light is on 18/24.
I grow on Biobizz light mix. I don't feed with nutrient actually.

I'am really disheartened because i haven't any results...

Please help me!!

Should i grow under MH, should i improve humidity??

My growbox is a small growbox, i just have the place to have 4 plants under light, that's why i put an hps to do veg and flower time.. but this is just an red spectrum..

Excuse my english..

Bye all and thanks!!!
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Old 11-01-2007, 10:28 AM #2
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Problem, excuse me..

Excuse me, i cannot put photos, when i try it shows :
1. Your Post contains one or more URLs, please remove them before submitting your message again.
How sould i do?? Photos are in my gallery if you want to watch it..

Last session Lowrider under mg125w is : J13 - Lowrider #2

Actual lowrider and masterlow under 150w is : J11 - Masterlow // J11 : Lowrider #2

If someone know how to fix this problem of photos..

Thanks you all
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:18 PM #3
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Well first off, theres a lot of things that can cause this. I never seem to have a problem. However in all possibilities it could be your soil, pot size or temps. Ive noticed the soil is a big reason why there seems to be dwarfing. What soil are you using? Tell us more about your grow, I will try to help you.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:27 PM #4
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I grow on Biobizz light mix. I don't feed with nutrient actually.
I found with Biobizz light mix mate it holds water to much and that could be your problem
Try adding more perlite to the soil to get more air into it so water can drain off.
I might be wrong but it's just off my personal grows with that soil.


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hps to do veg and flower time.. but this is just an red spectrum..
If your bulb is only running 2700K (Red) then this will also cause you problems.
Mdanzig could explain in more details but Automatics still have a vegging time even though it is very short so you would have to get some 6400K (Blue lighting) in there alsong side your HPS
If space is a problem trying looking on Ebay for SAD bulbs and grab one of them but more Watts the better.

Hope it helps.

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Old 11-01-2007, 03:22 PM #5
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i also have a nano pheno if that is what you have. But are you saying all of your plants are dwarfed? You should be able to post pics after you have made at least one post i think. Give it another try and we should be able to help you out a lot better bud. Hey md my nano pheno is almost out performing my other girls now lol. She is a lil monster pushing all the fan leaves to the sky because the nugs under them are swelling so much.

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Old 11-01-2007, 04:03 PM #6
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My lowrider after 11days:



My masterlow after 11days :



Previous grow with Mg125w day13 : That's was better...



Mandzig : soil is Biobizz lightmix. Pots are huge : 20cm * 20 cm * 20 cm.



For soil, wich one did u advice?

Kenzer : I know i must have an blue lighting for the vegetative time of lowrider hybrid but i saw on highbred a men growing on HPS150w, and that's was better than me.. Do you think that the dwarfirsm is just because of the lack of veg spectrum?

I think that i put too much water : 10cc every 2 or 3 days. I wait that the soil became a dry but that's not easy to know...

I just like to know if Lowrider is hard to grow or if i'am a poor grower.. It's not the easiest one to beguin.. If you make a mistake at the beguining, the yield isnot very good...

That's a lot everybody!

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Old 11-01-2007, 04:04 PM #7
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Your seedlings in your gallery look ok to me. Better then some seedlings i have seen before.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:11 PM #8
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They have 11days and they make 3-4cm they have 2pairs of leaf. Veg time is about 3weeks, it's the half of veg time.no?
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What day did you plant?
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:26 PM #10
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Sorry mate i no very little about HPS lighting so someone else would have to come in on that one but lack of the correct spectrum would slow things down im sure.
What size pots are you starting them in mate do you have a pic because looking at the soil it seems to be ok not to dry not to wet?? which for me points back to the lights your using (my opinion)

Picture below is LR2 @ 9 days then 12 days under 125W 6400K (Blue lighting) envirolite and a 200W 2700K (Red Lighting)

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12 Days Old



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