DIY Ebb and Flow $50! Instructions step by step - Indoor Grows - Hydro - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

Levitikuz · 10-04-2007, 05:23 AM

Parts list:
8 1/2 adapters
8 elbow with side outlet
130-170 gph sub. pump
Black 1/2 ID Tubing
3 1/2 barbs
4 4ft 1/2 pvc tubing
1 tub from concrete section of lowes (the smaller one)
super glue
Duct tape
10 Gallon rubber maid res.

You get 8 of each

Then you screw them together like this and end up with 8 elbows

You get four 4 foot 1/2 pvc tubing

Cut 4 17 inch legs with a hack saw

Then connect the elbows to the 17inch legs like this!

Then cut 2 17.25"

Them cut 2 23.5"

And then connect them to the 17inch legs with the elbows like so!

Buy a tub just like this one in the CONCRETE sections of lowes.

Then if all your measurements were correct it will fit nice and flush like this!

Then cut 1 more 23.5" length pvc and 2 more 17.25" pvc and connect them to the bottom for better stability as so!

So then you end up with THIS!

Now for the table! You will need Duct tape, 3 1/2 barbs from lowes plumbing section, super glue (of your choice) a drill with a half inch drill bit and a small drill bit as you can see in this picture!

Now take 2 of your 1/2 barbs and the drill with the small drill bit and drill holes in them like so! I do this so the nute solution will drain all the way when the pump turns off!

Then take your drill with the 1/2 bit and drill 3 holes in the bottom of the tub like so!

Levitikuz · 10-04-2007, 05:24 AM

Now put the barbs thru the bottom of the tub and super glue them to the bottom them push them thru ALL the way then duct tape them down like this!

Repeat the process to the other 2 barbs and you end up with this!

Now you need some screen that you can buy at wal mart with some small twistie ties you can also buy at wal mart and you cut small square pieces to put around the barbs so your medium you choose to use doesnt get stuck inside the barbs, and you connect like so!

Now you take the balck tubing that fits the 130-170gph pump and you cut the pices to length to go from the bottom of your table to ur pump and drain tubes like this!

2 of the tubes are for draining and 1 is for the pump!

here are 2 working ebb and flows i just showed you how to build!

Any questions on something i didnt make clear enough feel free to ask!
Any comments welcome!
I hope this helps some people!

Now this is $50 for every part except for the tubing and the 10 gal. res! sorry about that!

cooked cook · 10-04-2007, 05:37 AM

GREAT Thread! I love a nice and easy, inexpensive DIY, and this one fits the bill. Nice work. Happy growing to you.
My only question would be, are the legs strong and stable enough that they hold up when big, fully flowering plants are in there?
Other than that, looks like these could be put together in a couple of hours.
Happy growing to you!
cc

OK...I lied. One more question. Do you think it's possible, to use one res and one pump for 2 tables like that if they were right next to each other,and the hoses adapted to pump and drain to and from both?
cc

chosen · 10-04-2007, 05:41 AM

Not bad... I like keeping mine in 6" garden pots. I love those setups for a cheap starter setup. I've done the same thing with 2 rubbermaids and no stand. Stack them and you don't need a stand. The only thing cheaper is dwc. I like this a little better though....
Nice Job...

Running a couple off of one res is just a matter of plumbing and capacity. I've done it with my aero setups.

George · 10-04-2007, 05:45 AM

awesome!

Levitikuz · 10-04-2007, 05:50 AM

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GREAT Thread! I love a nice and easy, inexpensive DIY, and this one fits the bill. Nice work. Happy growing to you.
My only question would be, are the legs strong and stable enough that they hold up when big, fully flowering plants are in there?
Other than that, looks like these could be put together in a couple of hours.
Happy growing to you!
cc

OK...I lied. One more question. Do you think it's possible, to use one res and one pump for 2 tables like that if they were right next to each other,and the hoses adapted to pump and drain to and from both?
cc

I believe it is strong enough, i have 2 working right now and they seem very stable to me! I bet it could hold more! thats why i put the pvc across the bottom also, thats what makes it stable.
I was thinkin about using 1 res but im putting those 2 different systems into bud at different times so im using 2 different res's

10-04-2007, 05:56 AM

Very cool set up. I want to do a ebb and flow for my grow for flowering clones. I just have a odd shape grow area so your set up wouldn't fit.

FRANKENBLUNT420 · 10-04-2007, 06:24 AM

simply phenominal, i will set one up very soon.

simple, easy, quick to set up, all parts available. . this has to go into the DIY sticky, it just has to.. . . . uh oh, i just got inspired.

Levitikuz · 10-04-2007, 06:32 AM

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simply phenominal, i will set one up very soon.

simple, easy, quick to set up, all parts available. . this has to go into the DIY sticky, it just has to.. . . . uh oh, i just got inspired.

yes takes about 45 minutes to do it all, and the best thing about it all!!! NO HYDRO SHOP REQUIRED!!!!

Tyler Durden · 10-04-2007, 07:03 AM

Nice. Just wanted to say make sure and get a pump like Levitikuz recommends. My first shopping trip I went cheapo and got the cheapest pump wallyworld had, like a 60gph pond pump ($19). Even tho it says it can push water 3 feet, it won't. Or it will, but not with any amount of pressure, so it'll get to the top and basically stop pumping because the gravity pressure forces it back down so your res will never fill up.

I'm still going to try and put together an e&f with that same pump in a compact system. Think I've figured out how I can get it to work anyway. Once I pick up another tub I'll try and get it posted.

Also, if no hydro shop is required, where are you getting your hydroton? I've yet to find any in the home improvement stores, and too paranoid to ask if they have it. Only thing I've found is like river rock pebbles which is what I'm currently using in my DWC just to block light from getting in the res.

-edit- also wanted to add, I realize this is doing it on the cheap, but for those who aren't worried about a few extra bucks here and there, I highly recommend getting a pipe cutter. Makes very quick work of pvc pipe, especially the smaller sizes, with nice clean cuts and no burrs. So if you don't have a hack saw laying around, and think you may never need one again after this project, it might be a cheaper alternative too, depending on how much they are where you live.

10-04-2007, 05:23 AM	#1
Levitikuz Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 918	DIY Ebb and Flow $50! Instructions step by step (No Hydro Shop Required!) Parts list: 8 1/2 adapters 8 elbow with side outlet 130-170 gph sub. pump Black 1/2 ID Tubing 3 1/2 barbs 4 4ft 1/2 pvc tubing 1 tub from concrete section of lowes (the smaller one) super glue Duct tape 10 Gallon rubber maid res. You get 8 of each Then you screw them together like this and end up with 8 elbows You get four 4 foot 1/2 pvc tubing Cut 4 17 inch legs with a hack saw Then connect the elbows to the 17inch legs like this! Then cut 2 17.25" Them cut 2 23.5" And then connect them to the 17inch legs with the elbows like so! Buy a tub just like this one in the CONCRETE sections of lowes. Then if all your measurements were correct it will fit nice and flush like this! Then cut 1 more 23.5" length pvc and 2 more 17.25" pvc and connect them to the bottom for better stability as so! So then you end up with THIS! Now for the table! You will need Duct tape, 3 1/2 barbs from lowes plumbing section, super glue (of your choice) a drill with a half inch drill bit and a small drill bit as you can see in this picture! Now take 2 of your 1/2 barbs and the drill with the small drill bit and drill holes in them like so! I do this so the nute solution will drain all the way when the pump turns off! Then take your drill with the 1/2 bit and drill 3 holes in the bottom of the tub like so! Last edited by Levitikuz; 10-04-2007 at 06:33 AM..
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10-04-2007, 05:24 AM	#2
Levitikuz Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 918	Cont. Now put the barbs thru the bottom of the tub and super glue them to the bottom them push them thru ALL the way then duct tape them down like this! Repeat the process to the other 2 barbs and you end up with this! Now you need some screen that you can buy at wal mart with some small twistie ties you can also buy at wal mart and you cut small square pieces to put around the barbs so your medium you choose to use doesnt get stuck inside the barbs, and you connect like so! Now you take the balck tubing that fits the 130-170gph pump and you cut the pices to length to go from the bottom of your table to ur pump and drain tubes like this! 2 of the tubes are for draining and 1 is for the pump! here are 2 working ebb and flows i just showed you how to build! Any questions on something i didnt make clear enough feel free to ask! Any comments welcome! I hope this helps some people! Now this is $50 for every part except for the tubing and the 10 gal. res! sorry about that! Last edited by Levitikuz; 10-04-2007 at 09:14 AM..
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10-04-2007, 05:37 AM	#3
cooked cook bake at 420 until nicely toasted Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the rebel base at ice planet Hoth Posts: 917	GREAT Thread! I love a nice and easy, inexpensive DIY, and this one fits the bill. Nice work. Happy growing to you. My only question would be, are the legs strong and stable enough that they hold up when big, fully flowering plants are in there? Other than that, looks like these could be put together in a couple of hours. Happy growing to you! cc OK...I lied. One more question. Do you think it's possible, to use one res and one pump for 2 tables like that if they were right next to each other,and the hoses adapted to pump and drain to and from both? cc __________________ Culinary Apothecary
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10-04-2007, 05:41 AM	#4
chosen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,034	Not bad... I like keeping mine in 6" garden pots. I love those setups for a cheap starter setup. I've done the same thing with 2 rubbermaids and no stand. Stack them and you don't need a stand. The only thing cheaper is dwc. I like this a little better though.... Nice Job... Running a couple off of one res is just a matter of plumbing and capacity. I've done it with my aero setups. Last edited by chosen; 10-04-2007 at 05:43 AM..
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10-04-2007, 05:45 AM	#5
George Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 418	awesome! __________________
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10-04-2007, 05:56 AM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Very cool set up. I want to do a ebb and flow for my grow for flowering clones. I just have a odd shape grow area so your set up wouldn't fit.
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10-04-2007, 06:24 AM	#8
FRANKENBLUNT420 me blunt is like, wicked yo!! owight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: is not as important as remembering the good times Posts: 989	simply phenominal, i will set one up very soon. simple, easy, quick to set up, all parts available. . this has to go into the DIY sticky, it just has to.. . . . uh oh, i just got inspired. __________________ ITS ALL ABOUT THE SUPER SILVER HAZE BABY!!! official YUMMYBUD hater
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10-04-2007, 07:03 AM	#10
Tyler Durden Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 63	Nice. Just wanted to say make sure and get a pump like Levitikuz recommends. My first shopping trip I went cheapo and got the cheapest pump wallyworld had, like a 60gph pond pump ($19). Even tho it says it can push water 3 feet, it won't. Or it will, but not with any amount of pressure, so it'll get to the top and basically stop pumping because the gravity pressure forces it back down so your res will never fill up. I'm still going to try and put together an e&f with that same pump in a compact system. Think I've figured out how I can get it to work anyway. Once I pick up another tub I'll try and get it posted. Also, if no hydro shop is required, where are you getting your hydroton? I've yet to find any in the home improvement stores, and too paranoid to ask if they have it. Only thing I've found is like river rock pebbles which is what I'm currently using in my DWC just to block light from getting in the res. -edit- also wanted to add, I realize this is doing it on the cheap, but for those who aren't worried about a few extra bucks here and there, I highly recommend getting a pipe cutter. Makes very quick work of pvc pipe, especially the smaller sizes, with nice clean cuts and no burrs. So if you don't have a hack saw laying around, and think you may never need one again after this project, it might be a cheaper alternative too, depending on how much they are where you live. Last edited by Tyler Durden; 10-04-2007 at 07:19 AM..
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