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Old 09-29-2007, 06:34 PM #41
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Believe me Ghost I know what Hot is....I Live in the High Desert CA...and My temps can reach the High 80's and sometime even the low 90's in my flower chamber here in the summer....the temps i was given you in my post earlier were winter temps...LOL....My Urkle will get purple in 80 degree temps No Problem from what i experienced...I think there was a feeding trick to get her to purple up more but i dont remeber what it was....The cooler the temps the more purple she gets I beleive....Why not invest in a small AC unit....I bet an 8-10 degree drop in temps when the lights go off will really get your Urkle to purple up..~Raskal
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For you guys not getting any color on your urk's how long are you flushing your plants and what are you feeding em? First time i ran urkle was with floranova and no flush - hardly none of em turned purple. Flushing is the key in my experience and different nutes do different things to the plant. For what it's worth real Urkle will not always turn out like Ogr's - there are other determinig factors that fall into play

Also there IS another urkle cut out there that turns super dark easier than the normal cut...
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this is a great thread.. i like. it.
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I think there was a feeding trick to get her to purple up more but i dont remeber what it was....The cooler the temps the more purple she gets I beleive....Why not invest in a small AC unit....I bet an 8-10 degree drop in temps when the lights go off will really get your Urkle to purple up..~Raskal
I'm nothing but an amateur grower/ medical consumer but let me tell you in the past when I have grown purple buds, usually by adding more meta-k (I use EJ) and micronutrient blasts towards the end before final flush really helped bring out those deep blacks blues and purples. I swear, I've seen some photography on the boards that mimic works of art you could find the lourve (french art musuem) but in the end, its temps and temps and the genetic profile of the cut. Take GDP for example I have smoked ALOT of GREEN GREEN gdp and have had some Ken's GDP that green as can be, but also have had some PI that's green too and as green as they are, they still have that certain chemical composition that just affects you, jusssssst right (like goldilocks with the poridge).

Now the makers of Bushmaster and Gravity have the Purple juice thing that I never used and that might be what your referring to raskal, I don't know but I'm very interested in this thread because I just found a very very purple Jack Herer from seed and its been growing in temps ranging from 85-98 for the past 40ish days and showed purple as soon as the budding kicked into gear, so just from observation with no lab equipment I conclude that its certainly genetic and no chemically induced so to speak, although we all know that anything a living organism does is chemically motivated to a certain degree but in this instance I'm reffering to a chemical introductions or amendments. Great thread Capt. so glad to see you posting and keeping us humans on point when it comes to the truth because in my time growing pot and reading about it on the boards I've heard&read 1001 stories for anything Elite or Heavily Sought After and I've always wanted to get to the bottom of this.

My solution in my mind to rationalize hertitage and any physical relations this cut my have with another would simply (I use the word simply sarcastically in this instance, hehehe) to map the mj genome of 'verified' plants and cross reference them with their alledged counterparts/clones/wannabes and see whats going on, because at this point its all speculation and we're like Aristotle and Socrates trying to rationalize the world simply by observing, in my humble opinion when it comes to MJ science we're still at humanities equivalent of the Greek Classical period or pre-Alexandrian libary knowledge (maybe they figured it out and had it in the libary at Alexandria before it was destroyed....) Keep on posting, I love to hear these stories and the pictures, you all rock for taking time to entertain me better than anything on a TV except football, lol, and chanting!

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how come everyone thinks the PK is related to this or crossed with that. as far as i know THERE IS ONE PURPLE KUSH. and nothing purple has ever come close to the flavor, QUALITY OF HIGH, and straight up dankness that pk has. you can grow out urkle different in so many ways, the different mediums, growing hydro, soil, organic soil, outdoors they all will come out different everytime. personally it doesn't cut it, properly grown outdoors it can kick somewhat but nothing near a good kush, and after smoking pk for a week urkle will taste like grass. about the temps, if you throw almost any indica in cold temps it will purp up its not that hard. and not something special imo which has nothing to do with the quality of nugs other than looks. i have not smoked any of the pk cuts on the boards so i cant really say anything about them. i just go by the pics and do not see a kush leaf in any of them.

raskal i hear you it gets HOT here, being an outdoor grower and temps reaching 100+ for weeks getting purple nugs isnt that easy unless its genetic. some serious looking nugs you got there, much props.

and to whoever said the outdoor og in hawaii, damn that must have been some DANK!
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Hey Jaykush...Thanks Bro....The Urkle is nice as long as your not smoking her every damn day which i dont but the Kushes are a step above the urk in my opinion...BTW...Do you have the real deal Purple Kush clone or do you know anybody that has it nowadays.....The real deal Purple Kush is so hard to find and thats the one I'm lookin for???...Where is the real Deal Purple Kush?????...~ogr
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Hey Da Ghost, Thanks Bro...But to tell you the truth My temps never drop below 70 degrees maybe in the mid 60's at night in the winter.....I have no AC unit so it usually stays pretty hot in my room....The real Urkle will turn Purple no matter what the temps are....At least mine did...I think theres a trick to get her to purple up more in flower but i dont remember what it is..its been a while since i'Ve flowered one...I only grew her out 3 or 4 times though and every time she turned purple..Sometime darker than other....I have a small Urkle in veg right now cant wait to send her to the flowering chamber...A few more pics of the Urkle:






That looks almost identicle to Tom Hills cripple creek purple pheno I got from cbf years ago. Im sure its not .. I dont keep clones but I wish I had.

Orgaskal your pics are some of the best. nice job!
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Why not invest in a small AC unit....I bet an 8-10 degree drop in temps when the lights go off will really get your Urkle to purple up..~Raskal
lol that is with my new aC RUNNING........lol DAS WHY HARD

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For you guys not getting any color on your urk's how long are you flushing your plants and what are you feeding em? First time i ran urkle was with floranova and no flush - hardly none of em turned purple. Flushing is the key in my experience and different nutes do different things to the plant. For what it's worth real Urkle will not always turn out like Ogr's - there are other determinig factors that fall into play

Also there IS another urkle cut out there that turns super dark easier than the normal cut...
IM NOT WORRIED I COULD CARELESS ABOUT THE COLOR.JUST THE SMOKE!!!

but i always flush for 2 week 1 st week a big plain water flush then when i feel they been dosed ...with ro water i do a regular feed ,right after with just carbload .,5ml per gallon of liquid karma ,and bunch of humic.then the last week another flush with plain ro water .....and a plain ro water feeds...i know how to flush um out good LOL

but raskal you hunting for the oldschool real middle eastern purple landrace kush...........before the kush/chem craze started...im sure there is some old schooler sittin on it!!!!!!!! but aint down with this whole inter web thing LOL

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s4vvy- the one i pictured a few pages back that i chopped yesterday was only fed rainbow mix bloom and that was cut off at 35 days. she was chopped at 60-ish with no color. it has been a hot fall here, but we've still had a couple nights in the 40s...
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Raskal,

If you happen to pop through would you throw up a few pics of the urkle and the Kushes.....(Abusive and SFV)Anything else that might be of intrest for discussing.....Your pics usually show the plants grown in their most perfect form.....And are very valuble for discussion....The fact that you grow them all under the same condition makes it great for comparisons...
Thanks bro.......

1. Where did the 3 or 4 versions of OGKush originate???(Abusive,SFV,Origi nal OG,....)

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Ok capt here yah go...Some pics of my version of the SFV OGK and Abusive cuts...First up is my SFV OGK...This cut is sourced from a grower that has been growin it in the SFV for at least 10+ years, thats why i called it the SFV OGK...It was actually given to me as the "Real Deal" OGk but i just called it the SFV OGK to distinguish it from the Abusive cut and the Ghost cuts that were floatin around the boards at that time....I had no Idea there was actually an SFV cut out there...So this is not the SFV cut thats been floatin around the Boards.That is just what I personally named it....This is my best Strain I have to date...Straight up Lemon Pinesol Kush Madness and Potent as Fukk..Nice chunky fat stinky buds...Check her out.....

My SFV OGK Cut (Posibly the Original OGK or a reworked version..who really knows)..




















and next up the Abusive OGK Cut.....Was given to me as the real deal Original OGK cut but i think not....Got the name Abusive OGK becuz a very Generous member of the Boards named Abusive passed the cut out on the boards and thats how the name stuck....Abusive said that he got the cut from his homie who got the cut from SNOOP DOG himself and Snoop told him it was the Original OGK and Abusive beleived it and passes it out as the Original....It really is a Nice OGK that yeilds well and is Nice and Potent....It just doesnt have that Piney Lemoney smell that the Real Deal OGK is suppose to have but it has a different smell to it that i dont really remember...While growin it you do smell hints of lemon in there but than it just disappears and the smell is very bland to my nose....Less potent than my SFV OGK but it is still nice and Potent...Check
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Abusive OGK

















Now I also ran the Original Larry Cut that was Decent but not as good as my SFV Version and the yeild wasnt nearly as good as the Abusive.....i have yet to try the Tahoe cut But i heard it is dank as fukk and possibly the real deal Original cut...I dont think we will never know 100% which OGK is the real Deal Original cuz there are so many different versions out there...But the Truth is even the weakest of the OGK cuts is better than most of the So Called Elites out there in My opinion.....All Ogks are Dank as Fukk when properly grown out right...Just my 2 cents and my experiences....~Raskal
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