[Robert Planting]

Just wondering why so many people hate on femed seeds? Looks to me that they could be quite usefull. Here's my reasoning: Let's say (for what ever reason) you don't like to mess with clones. You buy a pack of regular seeds and you have a 50/50 chance of getting (desired) females. Ok, you then have to wait for the plants to show sex, during which time you are spending your time, ferts, space etc., growing what MIGHT be totaly useless male plants that you then have to destroy. And if your room is designed to hold let's say 6 females through flower and you only end up with 3 fem's out of a pack of 10 then your grow room is running ineffeciently. Now, I realize that folks say there's always a chance of hermies popping up and I'm not disputing that that might be the case, but wouldn't it be worth the minor inconvience of having to pick a few seeds out of your stash to compensate for the decreased overall yeild you would have if you could only have 3 true females in your garden from regular seed? I personaly would prefer to have to discard a few seeds out of a large quantity of fine bud than to end up with just a few ounces of grass with no seeds. As a secondary note I do tend to stick with regular seeds just because I feel there are better, more potent strains being produced in regular (M/F) form. But I have to say if someone would come out with something like femed AK47 or a femed Sour strain or something REALLY potent I would make the switch-over in a heartbeat. Just my .02 but I'd like to get others opinions on this as well... Thanks

[Robert Planting]

Anyone? Please feel free to jump in. ....Crazy Composer? .....Bog? .....Rez?

I will never use femmed seed. i have enough problems with hermie plants using regular seeds that i don't need to torture myself anymore.

and males arent always useless.....

i would rather just go through the hassle of getting the 3 fems, clone them all, and keep the best one as a mother...

it's not like you wont have a chance to grow again..... 1 inefficiant crop is not the end of the world.

THC

[Sinfuldreams]

Thats up to each grower, I was thinking about Femd seed when I 1st started.
While Hermies may not be a big deal to a smaller grower like us, it IS a BIG Deal to a large grower, who can't be looking for hermies everyday.

As I understand Soma has stopped producing his seed in fem form. Not sure of His Reasoning, perhaps too many complaints about hermies? I don't know.
While it is certinly true about time and money wasted on Vegging out Males, you get the same effect when in the last 2 weeks of flower and you see nanners on just 1 plant, that Seeded the enitre room!

Then you get knuckle heads like me who might try to back Cross these beans and produce Hermie seed by the Bag full.

There ARE reasons for try to get a Particular Plant to Hermie, perhaps no more seed is avaiable for Crossing, or it has some special property you want to breed into seed,you need to hermie that plant, to get seed.

So while Femmed seed may not be such a bad thing for smaller growers or those who want to TRY and cut down Wasted space, they are not the best thing to be growing in a larger scale. There for Clones.

Many a grower here have tried Femmed seed and Sworn off them!
But each thier own.
Good Luck!
Sin

[mybeans420]

well, i just did my first grow of femmed seeds.
14 fem master kush from dutch passion.
8 turned hermie by week 4.
i ended up chopping them all because i didnt want to deal with the hassle.
as i was chopping the buds to try and salvage what i could by making bubble hash i noted HUNDREDS of immature seeds. IMHO this is a little more than a minor inconvenience.
fortunately i flowered them in a seperate room from my standard seed plants and pollen contamination only produced about 2 dozen seeds. but they WERE effected.
for this reason i wont try any femmed or selfed or whatever you want to refer to them as seeds again.

[Okie grown]

Well i have 4 strawberry cough fem. ladys 7 weeks into flower and have not shown them selves to be nothing but 100% ladys in every way.This is my first run with fems. so i can only say dp strawberry cough are great!! Thay smell sooo good .Heres a few pics.Thay are streachy and not gonna be the best yeialders but most connis. strains are not big yeialders

[Robert Planting]

Thanks for the replies guys, this is a subject I've been struggling with for some time now. But I didn't know that the hermi problem could be on a scale that bad. I can def. understand why people would give up on them for completely ruining a whole crop. I was under the assumption that there might be a FEW male flowers on the plants at worst. But now I understand. Thanks for clearing that up. Peace...

[King]

Regular Feminised seeds = I'll pass
Selfed Feminised seeds = I've got some in veg right now, and have faith

I have heard of one person having hermie problems with 3C's S1 Cali-O. There's 3 seedmakers I know of that make selfed seeds. Hermies look to be about the same as regular m/f seed ratios so far. It very well could have been the grower. We'll see as more results surface.

I'll post my grow results up, and I saw one other person growing out a few of ORGNKID's selfed seeds. A few mod's are growing the selfed blackberry so there will be more results. I'm not worried at all. Selfed plants aren't stressed into producing pollen, like regular feminised seeds are. They are fully sexually reversed with a chemical and become a male.

Rez on femmedFuckingSeeds:
I don't like ANY of them,(though they have use within a breeding program,but that's not what we're talking about-we're talking about home-growers.)and until I'm happy w results that I (personally) see,I won't consider offering them,no matter how 'in demand' or profitable (who cares) they may be.
If I was to release Sour Diesel S1 and it didn't produce the phenotype that I wanted it to at least 80% of the time,then Imo it'd be a waste of mine,and everyone that grew the seeds out's,time, space and energy....
I know to be fact that my current Sour Diesel produces two phenotypes,one's like DSD,a sat-dom w a limey-fuel taste/smell,and a Sour Diesel pheno,that is almost identical to the Sour Diesel Clone mom.
Why,if I have it down to two phenos m/f would anybody want to bother with unstabl-ish femmd seeds that won't be as naturally perfect as the regular seeds,naturally created by SELECTION,not chemicals.
Those who fuck with mother nature don't laugh last very often,and I've run enough femmd seeds to know that they essentially suck ass.
I'm running DP's Straw Cough right now,for fun,and I'll letcha' know what I think when it's all said and done.
I'm not expecting anything great,so I'm quite sure I won't be disappointed.
I also own most of Orgnkid's seeds,and will do some of his S1s in 2005,unless I hear bad things beforehand.
Anyhow,cutting corners will get you kickedin the ass by Ma Nature ninety times plus out of a hundred.
Why bother?



Cheers!

[mybeans420]

my thoughts exactly rez,
i only ordered the masterkush because they were for someone else, but then they gave me 15 of the 70 ordered. i hate to think of what their results will be. i tried to talk them out of ordering them but to no avail.
my thoughts on femmed seeds, selfed or not are...
garbage, pure garbage