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[SpiderMite]

I could give a damn what "chemicals" or not people choose. I respect people trying to eradicate mites organically. I tried for months, the best result was mites gone for several weeks then come right back, even with continued application. The OMRI listed organic chemicals I listed are required to beat resistant mites.

Dichlorvos, the active ingredient in NPS has a half life of about 6 hours and dissipates very quickly once any kind of ventilation is turned on. It can be very dangerous while it is being deployed, thus my previous warning. There is no way it will be present in the finished buds.

Never said word one about you being borderline retarded. Can't recall insulting you at all.

I also never claimed to know exactly what your relationship to the company is only that it is obvious there is one and don't appreciate you bad mouthing almost all other products only for the purpose of providing your "solution"... It is bad form, and is not helping those who are seeking genuine advice.

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[SpiderMite]

Man you are one dense person.

I am saying you recommend the same products for everything. And, make sure you provide not only the product name but the company name and website link in many instances. It reeks of promotion and alterior motive.

Your recommendations are biased beyond all belief, and you should be assumed to have zero credibility.

That is what I am saying.

Whether the products work in some applications is not the topic at hand. The topic is the fact you recommend them and only them for almost everything while smack talking most anything else.

Please, prove me wrong (I mean it). You would do this by giving objective unbiased advice going forward. Would love to see it, I am not holding my breath though.

[SpiderMite]

Ok, sorry fellas (and girls) for taking part in hijacking the thread.

The way I attack mites is to first hit them with a contact killer like Habanero water, liquid ladybug, or mighty wash (I use homemade Habanero water). Then hit them in 2-3 days with a systemic (neem drench or azamax). After that use something like spinosad, then come back and hit them with neem or azamax (whichever you didn't use the first time).

If you rotate the treatments and get under the leaves as well as a good drenching of the plant you should be rid of them within 3 weeks or so... just rotate, rotate, rotate... You won't kill them with one product (for long anyway).

If they are stubborn and possibly "resistant" mites you may need to resort to nuclear options. Floramite is expensive stuff but can be found on eBay in 1 oz bottles for about $20. If you are approaching flower or about to flip and still have mites one application of floramite will keep them controlled for at least 4 weeks.

No pest strips are controversial, but if you are growing away from living quarters they can be used up to the 12/12 flip or as much as 1 week into flower (if necessary). They do work very well but lose their "potency" fast, much like a car pine air freshener does. I use them for no more than 36-48 hours at a time then seal them back up in a ziplock bag for later use. After 2 weeks of "out of bag use" I will add an additional NPS when in use. These work great in rotation with other treatments in veg.

For the Habanero water I simmer (never boil) about 15 habanero peppers in about 2 quarts of water for 20-30 minutes. Then strain out the water and freeze the used peppers for a later batch (with added fresh ones). Use about half of this mix into 1 gallon of solution and spray liberally, it will kill all the mites it hits in the garden. Add several drops of insecticidal soap as a wetting agent for added killing power.

Peace,
SM

[mik']

the problem be that the spider can stay alive long in a tiny space... the worse I've seen be 2 YEARS ! After a large attack of red spider throw 12 plants on 19. The remaining 7 were not very nice ..... Logic .

There was 1 YEAR treatment, Predator for 3 MONTHS, Neem and ect. No great victory :( Identical with chilli and garlic as pepper mint soap . The phenomenon decreases but very difficult to kill. After 2 years (without culture in same appart.) and a change of culture room in another apartment just HPS bulb and ballast were to keep, ONLY ! ! ! ! everything else was throwing. When we turn on the HPS bulb and ballast (totally clean with alcohol 70° and bleach several times ) It took 20 days for the Spider are present In a totally hermetic room is treated before :(

With a powerful microscope and removing the ballast we saw he had STILL tiny eggs Spider in the ballast there ! ! ! ! ! ! !

stay for 2 YEARS ! ! ! ! ! ! righteous because of old ballast and bulb it was still a disaster eggs can stay long in the house or apartment and wait a very long time .....

To understand the phenomenon a friend placed his cool tube in a dishwasher .... great heat and great hot tube cleaning cool !

At the end of the dishwasher not all were destroyed oreufs ! ! ! ! ! ! the smallest hidden in smaller banks were still white. Not all destroyed... we even test a super toxic smoke . Tightly closing the apartment for 24 hours . We put 2 of 50m3 each smoke into the room culture & the second in the living room of the apartment. And the whole apartment was only 58m2...
Even with 24 hours of the smoke spider were not all destroyed

This is MONSTROUS Real crap....

I live in a warm climate , no winter snow here never cold ! not too shabby way was to move the plants to alcohol 60° ( diffile and to avoid damaging delicate plants ! ) then rinse with water. After passing juice red pepper / garlic / soap ... weekly alcohol and water, Rinse + 2 weekly Pepper / garlic / soap same flowering except for alcohol of course !

Being asse effective but not reap miracle solution. Eggs may even be in the curtains.. in wood (furniture)...in HOUSE... ECT !

Very difficult to manage !

even large international companies with a lot of dollars lost entire crops with these mites crap...

When people explain I kill the spider easy red = Be very nice for them ! but in hot countries asse things can become a nightmare...

all the material culture may contain eggs ! ! !

And obviously they can wait even 2 YEARS without problem ! ! !

[mack 10]

Great post, hate them fuckers with a vengeance.
Really still alive after 2 years? I bet you wish you dumped your light and ballast sooner for a new one.
Good luck staying mite free!

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Mik'...........your post above just scared the shit outa me and was super informative. Thanx for the blunt truth.
I just flipped my 24x GG#4's 9 days ago and they are just about to unleash the first flower clusters. Then I see the classic white marks on a few bottom fans and BOOM! Spider Mites!
I now think since I packed up my whole flower room and put it in the veg room for 2 weeks, maybe they got into my ballast or a/c or sumthing.
So now Im gonna bomb the room, wash off all plants in the shower, and then spray them 1x with floramite or sumthing like it, before they start to throw flower clusters. There isnt alot of them so it should be easy to kill them off for good. I got rid of the "nest plant" that had most of them on the bottom fans. They got sprayed 2x with Capt Jacks w/ Spinosad over the last 2 weeks which slowed them down abit, so this should be the last 1,2 punch.

[EastCoast710]

id do a spray.. and bomb the place.. bombing it this early into flower is your best bet honestly.. good luck.. id just make sure its spidermites and not thrips because thrips are easy to get rid of . and u wont need to use some of the nasties you will use for spidermites if u want them gone ASAP..

[Highdroponic]

great info! Thank You!