[avant gardener]

great thread.



looks a lot like chiva to me though.
just saying.

[b00m]

So much great and awesome information contained in this thread
Thank You to all the posters contributing with vital and important info and techniques and materials used
Can't wait to try my first Quick Wash in a couple of months when the OD finishes up

[HymroD]

Originally Posted by vince514

i realized after trial and error that a semi gentile shake does the best for me.........

No dude he shook it like a nice Strong Jewish boy!

Pe@ce,

HymroD

[HymroD]

Originally Posted by hopleaf

for anyone doing it on a gas stove the key is heating up the water and then turning the flame off when you put the plate on the pot.

Thank you sir. You might have saved me, and who else knows with this timely advice.

[jump117]

Originally Posted by blazeoneup

Water is the enemy of a good extraction the lower % of alc the higher % of water. Water will pull out chlororphyll rather quickly. 70% iso is worthless and if you use it your never gonna get the superior quality that can be achieved using 99% with a quick wash.

I consider the role of water a little differently.

Chlorophyll is soluble in alcohol, regardless of the presence of water.

Water extracts additional pollutants, insoluble in alcohol.

[Gray Wolf]

Originally Posted by jump117

I consider the role of water a little differently.

Chlorophyll is soluble in alcohol, regardless of the presence of water.

Water extracts additional pollutants, insoluble in alcohol.

Water also appears to dissolve and wash water soluble things out of the way, so that the alcohol has access to the alcohol soluble chlorophyll.

[jump117]

I agree.
This is particularly noticeable when alcohol extraction from water-cured material, it becomes dirty much faster.
As if alcohol soluble substances encapsulated within the water soluble shell.

[HymroD]

Originally Posted by flexo

thanks for explaining the process Haps,
I'll have to try that in the future.

always learning new things here, icmag rocks

Did that make a difference?

Roage

[HymroD]

Originally Posted by jump117

Hey Bumble Buddy,
recently I’ve made and posted a number of experiments on ethanol 96% extractions using microscope and camera it may be useful in your exploring.

You may get the same amount of oil extract in two parts of two grades – a bigger part of very best amber and smaller part of satisfactory oil.

Divide your extraction timing into two or more runs.
First run will give you glass-amber-stoned resin quality that is good looking and very comfort to keep and to use,
immediately after first the second run will give oil or gooey if duration is over timed.
You may also make a third run up to a week or month like tincture lovers do.

The main parameter is timing of extraction runs but the manner of buds preparing is also significant. Common sense dictates to crumble a material to open more surface, but in case when trich glands are out of a plant body and nothing useful is inside the crumbing opens only a bad surfaces which give bad substances into extract. We just have to open to solvent a spots of dense contact of clusters to improve the process but have not to crumble.

Imo the winner technique on buds is jelly hash. Accurately disassemble buds into clasters, dry sift them and keep a kief to mix with resin later. Make a first run with accurate gentle wash, on second run shake intensively. Filter, evaporate and collect 1-st and 2-d separately to compare for knowledge and to decide which one is to mix with kiff that brings the best aroma.

REP

Pe@ce,

Roage

[John Deere]

Originally Posted by jump117

I agree.
This is particularly noticeable when alcohol extraction from water-cured material, it becomes dirty much faster.
As if alcohol soluble substances encapsulated within the water soluble shell.

You've used water cured buds to make qwiso? I've been wondering if that'd work. How was it?