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Old 02-26-2004, 04:06 AM #1
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Hey guys heres someting interesting I found in an old MJ cultivation booklet by a guy named Murphy Stevens.
The title is "How to grow Marijuana indoors under lights."
It's 73 pages long and shows a 1975 copyright.


Here's what it says:



Treating Marijuana with dry ice


Marijuana contains both Cannabinol and Tetrahydracannabinol(THC) molecules.The basic difference between them is that the Cannabinol molecule contains one less atom of Carbon than does the THC molecule.Frozen CO2 gives up a Carbon atom and the Cannabinol molecule takes it,thus changing the molecular structure of Cannabinol to that of THC.

The procedure for improving your grass with dry ice is quite simple.Get a 10 pound chunk of dry ice and put it in a styrofoam ice chest.(it costs about 20 cents a pound).Put your Marijuana on top of the ice and wrap the ice and grass up in newspaper or something so it won't melt too fast.If the styrofoam cooler is small enough and your freezer is big enough,put one inside of the other.Leave the grass on ice till it's gone.(the ice not the grass).The general consensus is that it's best if the grass is left on dry ice for about 8 days and 48 hours is the minimum.


It doesn't seem to make much difference if the grass is freshly harvested or old stuff.There is a noticable difference in quality change when treating poor quality grass than there is when treating grass that is already good.Good grass already has more THC and less Cannabinol.The THC you create by treating with dry ice seems to be unstable and you may find that the weed reverts back to it's previous state after a period of time.







Well that's all he says about it .
What do you guys think?
Is it Mumbo Jumbo?



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I don't think that would work just because i don't understand how dry ice make the mj produce more delta-9 thc.
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Old 02-26-2004, 06:17 AM #3
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My friend's dad first told me about this, and I have to say after having his dad let me smoke his bud, and then his bud cured with dry ice, there is definitely a noticable difference, atleast, in a curing aspect. The smoke seemed a little smoother/tastier, I don't remember a big change in the high though. I think this technique would probably be good for those who wanna well cure a lot of bud fast.
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Old 02-26-2004, 06:35 AM #4
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I think I will just keep my pot in the jar That seems like alot of work, and sounds like it could all be in the author's head. Or if you tried it you might think so just from being high. They may even be experiencing the weed being better from just being cured longer, or quicker. I don't know, but I don't want to put up the effort to try
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Red face I remember this theory

As a teen ager an older grower let me sample some of his home grown he had co2 treated with dry ice. What he claimed is that this procedure made the pot have the instant rush head hit. It was ass kicker shit and perhaps there is something to this. BOG

More likely it was the best weed I had ever had to that date is all.
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heard of this

I've read a few accounts like this before... one thing to consider, is that nobody who has reported this effect wasn't high at the time.

I think you would need a spectrum analysis or some way of actually testing the THC molecules in a sample of regular jar-cured cannabis and then in another sample of CO2-cured. Otherwise who can say?

Gypsy, if your empire ever grows to the point that you are scratching your head thinking of what to fund next (would be nice, right? ); consider a global canna-testing lab, or at least buying shares of lab time for the purpose. If the best minds of the (regretabbly) illicit cannabis breeding world had access to chromatography, tissue culture, and such other technologies as the legit. researchers have... well, it's a pipe dream but a fine one. Individuals wanting to use this hypothetical service could pay for the time and materials involved, to help support its ongoing operation.

I think a deep-freeze for preserving rare landraces and heritage strains should come first, though. Much cheaper and easier to realize, and with the right PR campaign you could get a lot of support and genetic donations. Anyone?

Just a few memes into the pool...

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re: Dry- ice

I believe dry ice has some value in perserving your harvest and it may increase the amount of thc in a noticable way if done to enhance lower grade pot...I don't classify it as a cure...but see it as a great drying agent where no thc is lost in that process...But Dry ice is dangerous if not handled with common sense and some precautions...it's temps are triple digit minus 0 degrees... can damage your freezers thermostat..so ya need an old freezer for that purpose only...plus eye wear and gloves or tongs..also gases ya probably don't want to inhale !!! Also to be consider a cure that meets the standard of air and jar methods it should remove chlorophyl and other compound from the finished product..Dry-ice does"nt remove much but water and adds carbon as stated earlier! It was used back in day when hippies roamed the earth and would score cheap nickel or dime bags (yes we would use this to get more of a buzz out of cheap dope!)
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"I think a deep-freeze for preserving rare landraces and heritage strains should
come first, though. Much cheaper and easier to realize, and with the right PR
campaign you could get a lot of support and genetic donations. Anyone?"

I believe that the IHA, in conjunction with the Vavilov Institute in Russia, has already done this, at least for the landrace strains.

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Do we have a chemist in the house. If someone who understood chemical formulae and reactions were to look at it i'm sure we could easily prove if it is even feasible.

Anyone know a reliably qualified chemist?
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Hi JPL, If you have an interest in old cannabis grow books, I can help you add to your collection. I have two books, first is “The complete Cannabis Cultivator” by Mary Jane Superweed. Circa 1969, and published by Stone Kingdom Syndicate. Twenty pages with illustrations. The second is an advertisement pamphlet from the “And/Or Press”, Berkeley, CA, Circa 1973. If you want them, their yours, for free. You’re a wonderful person JPL and it would be my pleasure to send them to you.

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