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DurbanPoison · 07-30-2007, 05:36 AM

I realize I should go to a lawyer, but I'm not really in a financial position to afford one. I may end up getting a public defender at best.. Anyhow - if I was arrested and my rights werent read and I was found sleeping in my car in a national park after hours and a roach and a j were confiscated on a first ever offense of this kind, what might be the best way to approach this?

Utah is a very conservative state..

imnotcrazy · 07-30-2007, 05:51 AM

My rights weren't read either AND I got a Lawyer....Didn't matter still wound up w/ a "Conditional Discharge"...... Plan on Not smoking/ minimal smoking for about a year or so

TheDoctor · 07-30-2007, 05:55 AM

That sucks, man. Did they mention if the charges are increased because it was in a national park? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a big deal if they don't read you your rights, but who knows what they get away with. Good luck.

Fidel Castro · 07-30-2007, 06:07 AM

talk to a lawyer FOR SURE most offer "free initial consultations" and if you pretend like your going to hire them, you can milk them for all sorts of important info.

mcbean · 07-30-2007, 06:37 AM

howdy

im not sure about the point of being on fed land but i would think it would up the level of punishment but i guess it depends how bad they want to put the screws to ya. not sure if normal in your state would or could help as far as info.

i wish you the best of luck and keep a good out till the hammer drops.

peace

Fidel Castro · 07-30-2007, 07:38 AM

Good idea mcbean! I just checked norml and the "public park" only increases the charges for sale, so you should be alright with possession, its just a misdemeanor but Id talk to a lawyer anyway.

https://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4567
https://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=legal&Group_ID=4567

DickAnubis · 07-30-2007, 02:54 PM

Durban,
You need a lawyer without doubt. Don't do any talking on your own.
Concerning the Miranda issue, consult the ACLU as well. They are very hot on this issue. Check their website for contact info. ACLU.org

Penalties depend on the state your were arrested in. NORML can help but call them, their website isn't up to date on state law.

Some Natl. Parks are administered by the state they're in some aren't and that determines the penalty.

Consult the ACLU first because Miranda is first and foremost the biggest issue. With the right lawyer it could all go away because of the cops negligence.

Good Luck Brother.

PEACE DA

scifreak69 · 07-30-2007, 03:24 PM

i got busted in yosemite when i lived and worked thier and the gave me drug court
which is seeing the judge every week and taking the pee
after much talking i moved out of that justice system and never herd from them agan if you are from out af state i would think you would get a fine because they dont want to deal with you they just want their money

07-30-2007, 03:44 PM

https://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4567
i would not worry to much maybee a year probation and a 1000

edit: well shit castro already posted the norml link..peace

DurbanPoison · 07-31-2007, 05:32 AM

wow guys thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate all your feedback and im clicking away at all your links. Thanks again. MUCH MUCH LOVE to the icmag fam.

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DurbanPoison Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West U.S.A Posts: 548	legal advice I realize I should go to a lawyer, but I'm not really in a financial position to afford one. I may end up getting a public defender at best.. Anyhow - if I was arrested and my rights werent read and I was found sleeping in my car in a national park after hours and a roach and a j were confiscated on a first ever offense of this kind, what might be the best way to approach this? Utah is a very conservative state.. __________________ OG Refugee - durbanpoison05 - DIY Carbon Scrubber / Filter DIY Germ your Beans NGB Stealth Micro Grow Box Bonsai Moms Vortex Fan's - So cheap it's like Stealing! Super Cheap Combo ph/tds/ec/temp Meter! My NGB Stealth Grow Growing is a science - not an art.
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imnotcrazy There is ALWAYS meaning to my madness ® Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wouldn't you like to know? Posts: 1,849	My rights weren't read either AND I got a Lawyer....Didn't matter still wound up w/ a "Conditional Discharge"...... Plan on Not smoking/ minimal smoking for about a year or so __________________ “When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money.” Cree saying "I was asked – but there were no words: it was a straight mental instantaneous communication – ‘What had I done to benefit or advance the human race?" – The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying – Sogyal Rinpoche P.L.C. in the Grow Room; So Far: Flip Flop https://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=99252
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07-30-2007, 05:55 AM	#3
TheDoctor New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6	That sucks, man. Did they mention if the charges are increased because it was in a national park? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a big deal if they don't read you your rights, but who knows what they get away with. Good luck.
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07-30-2007, 06:07 AM	#4
Fidel Castro Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 104	talk to a lawyer FOR SURE most offer "free initial consultations" and if you pretend like your going to hire them, you can milk them for all sorts of important info.
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07-30-2007, 06:37 AM	#5
mcbean New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 20	howdy im not sure about the point of being on fed land but i would think it would up the level of punishment but i guess it depends how bad they want to put the screws to ya. not sure if normal in your state would or could help as far as info. i wish you the best of luck and keep a good out till the hammer drops. peace
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07-30-2007, 07:38 AM	#6
Fidel Castro Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 104	Good idea mcbean! I just checked norml and the "public park" only increases the charges for sale, so you should be alright with possession, its just a misdemeanor but Id talk to a lawyer anyway. https://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4567 https://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=legal&Group_ID=4567
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07-30-2007, 02:54 PM	#7
DickAnubis Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Same as You Posts: 125	Durban, You need a lawyer without doubt. Don't do any talking on your own. Concerning the Miranda issue, consult the ACLU as well. They are very hot on this issue. Check their website for contact info. ACLU.org Penalties depend on the state your were arrested in. NORML can help but call them, their website isn't up to date on state law. Some Natl. Parks are administered by the state they're in some aren't and that determines the penalty. Consult the ACLU first because Miranda is first and foremost the biggest issue. With the right lawyer it could all go away because of the cops negligence. Good Luck Brother. PEACE DA __________________ Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly- Chesterton Weed The People - DickAnubis Last edited by DickAnubis; 07-30-2007 at 05:07 PM..
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07-30-2007, 03:24 PM	#8
scifreak69 Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: the desert Posts: 221	i got busted in yosemite when i lived and worked thier and the gave me drug court which is seeing the judge every week and taking the pee after much talking i moved out of that justice system and never herd from them agan if you are from out af state i would think you would get a fine because they dont want to deal with you they just want their money
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07-30-2007, 03:44 PM	#9
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	https://norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4567 i would not worry to much maybee a year probation and a 1000 edit: well shit castro already posted the norml link..peace Last edited by brainthor; 07-30-2007 at 03:45 PM..
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07-31-2007, 05:32 AM	#10
DurbanPoison Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West U.S.A Posts: 548	wow guys thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate all your feedback and im clicking away at all your links. Thanks again. MUCH MUCH LOVE to the icmag fam. __________________ OG Refugee - durbanpoison05 - DIY Carbon Scrubber / Filter DIY Germ your Beans NGB Stealth Micro Grow Box Bonsai Moms Vortex Fan's - So cheap it's like Stealing! Super Cheap Combo ph/tds/ec/temp Meter! My NGB Stealth Grow Growing is a science - not an art.
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