[PrinceOfPersia]

Yeah mr smoke, usually its the other way round.. more sun = faster/earlier bloom

[Jahkaya]

IT's very odd, I live at 29 lattitude, Hot and wet. I have a sativa that is in full flower and is no longer producing multiple blade leaves. I have hybrids that are in full Veg with but tiny preflowers.

In this world of only 14 hours of light Me thinks that some genes have been set into full flower so early.

So much diversity in Just one Genus.....I love it.

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Mr. Smoke & hamstring- I agree! Planting in shaded areas can result in slightly faster finishing times.
It has also been noted by many growers in the past that plants with more Eastern exposure, and lesser Western exposure also seem to finish a bit earlier, possibly for the same reasons as the tree shading.

Jahkaya- I have heard said before that many true tropical Sativas act like a "Day neutral" plants(Autoflowering), and may bloom according to Temperature, Rain cycles, or age, rather than by the cycles of the sun. At such a low lattitude, things other than Winter would be the reason the plants switch to bloom, since it is usually warm enough for most varieties year round.

And thank you much PrinceOfPersia, Sheriff Bart, Gunnarguchi, and teddybud!

[DimeBag65]

Great information to have on hand Backcountry! i have quickly skimmed through it but i am going to have to go back through and re read everything. Some vital information in understanding WHY your plant do what they do, when they do it

I agree on this should be a sticky, its some very valuable information for outdoor growers around the world. Keep the information coming and thanks alot for posting up, your contributions to this site, especially the outdoor forums is precious BC, thank you kindly for your time put in.

Always good to go over information again no matter what just to refresh the memory.

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Thanks DimeBag65!

After I compliled the Day length chart, a few questions came to mind for me:

1. How does the near lack of seasons(compared to higher Lats) affect growers at lower Lats? Like in Florida, S. Texas, Hawaii, and N. Austrailia? I imagine the conventional Indicas and Hybrids usually grown at higher Latitudes must be more difficult in these enviroments? As Jahkaya pointed out, it is possible even in a place where the day is never longer than 14-15 hours, but how do they fair?
Does anyone know of any Tropical auto-flowering varieties? Do they exist? Or are all Tropical varieties also Photo-sensitive(this would be pretty sensitive to feel that slight change in day length).

2. How long of a day can a non-Autoflowering plant be bred to bloom under? Could it be possible to breed a plant that would bloom and finish naturally in Eugene-OR(44.1N) before the end of August? Can Cannabis be bred to start blooming when the day is still longer than 15 or 16 hours?

3. I'm especially interested to hear from Canadian growers and growers in N. Europe who use many local and commercial early varieties. Some of these varieties seem to be Auto-flowering, some seem to be Photoperiod sensitive, and some I've heard can turn out as either in the same batch. Would any Northern growers care to talk about any of these exotic strains they have used and their observations about them?

[hamstring]

BC
Totally agree any Canadian growers have any input on this subject.
Bump.

Aw...BACKCOUNTRY..man..
I am so pleased you started this thread.
I saw you having a constructive discussion about similar in another thread..but I had visitors and couldn't follow.

I have 3 kinds of girls.
Ones that go over with the season..
AF's..
and..what I call fast flowerers..
plants that aren't classed/named as AF..
but they ain't a kick in the arse off it.

They certainly do not seem to be photo-dependent..

Are these plants simply AF that haven't been named..or are they something else..

I have been studying up on the genetics in my grow..
and seeing these fast-finishers..against my true AF's genetics...
it has led me to make a few educated guesses as to the origins of the mystery cross in the Original LowRyder..

[BACKCOUNTRY]

High there mossy!

I see in your grow thread that you live near 37*N, and you grow many beautiful plants. Feel free to describe your experiences concerning blooming and finishing times, it is especially interesting that you grow many different strains with distict methods and times of finishing.

Right..
I started with Original LowRyder #1
F1 Mazar x Original LowRyder
and LownRanger.
Bought seed.
Just incase anybody doesn't know..
Mazar is the indy side of Afghan.
The LownRanger was an Afghan x Original LowRyder.

The f1 LR crosses carried with them a 25% chance of AF on the LR side.

The first cross I made was Maz/Maz..the second was Maz/lownranger.
I have worked on these 2 crosses..and I am now just putting my first f4 hybrids out.
Both crosses are 50% LR genetics

My F1'S were grown full season..
My F2's were grown off season..in a cold..receeding natural light pattern
My F3's were grown off season..in a cold..increasing natural light pattern
All of my plants and crosses..up to F3..were 100% AF.

At F3..I got my split into AF's and NON-af's..but..that is where I expected it.
Everything comes out at F3..

[Hindu Killer]

What chapter is this going to be BC????