[Fast_Pine]

Originally Posted by Julian

(Note: This is of course not a grow diary )

Daaaaamn it!.....

I love it when you do this shit M...

[Julian]

How's your world my friend?....How's everything going your way?....How's your weather...

Surely you would have a commentary about any one of many aspects involved?...(you should pen an irrigation supplement for those in areas not as forgiving as mine )

What's the story behind your main rez?...where did it come from?...already there?....

[Julian]

More notes on planning, ones mobility and site selection......

When contemplating a large project (large being 1MM and up after expenses and any split) it's not unreasonable to search out locations, anywhere, which may contribute more to ones security, and eeven with more favorable, (or no penalties, be it another state, or, in some cases, even another country...

After all, the profits warrant it and actual method practiced all the time by the corporate world in establishing production facilities in other areas that are more "friendly"...be it through cheaper labor, tax breaks, cost of living issues, cost of sites, etc, etc, etc...

Likewise the same can be applied to property itself and potential uses..(one thing that has me drooling is an estate property mentioned, which the highest and best use is probably one day in the future being subdivided into 10 1 acre lots for building of luxury homes........(what seems realistic since such has been done even on lots that it borders.......)

Likewise as far as the what, where, and when I was visiting a friend today in a denser major metro location (a home, larger lot), and, found about a 10' x 100' strip, privacy fence, nice sun, lot of bushes and trees on neighbors side and absolutely no visability from any of the other 2 sides of the property and not on same side as meters.......(and in the meantime told him I could have 1000 ready for him in 3 weeks or so if he wanted to give it a go....(more on that later...I might have 1000 extra "laying around" at that time )

Just came back in, will go through neighborhood shots and try and find some good ones ("good" being absolutely no identifying factors, and, could be a spot in any one of 10 states....)

[Julian]

My situation though a little different....most aren't lucky enough to have an area where there is nothing for an hour in any direction East to see why I have no limitations regarding numbers But that's not a determining factor, as it's just one location out of many and is even possible as discussed in an urban backyard setting at a higher number if done right place and time....(I might be able to get some pics also of some city locations to demonstrate how easy it is to find spots anywhere for high volume...)

[Julian]

Some further notes on site selection

Could also be applicable to indoor of any size.

Whenever I am scanning, will immediately go for the aerial views and match them against street views to see what the overall picture of the location is. (Onsite may seen fine but then aerial may reveal other things, good or bad and, of course, vs. versa.....

Aerial is usually what sells me on a location though.....(of course, for "our thing".....aerial more of a concern than ground level, as ground level issues can be resolved in a day or two with privacy fences and such, etc, etc.....aerial the true issues....layout, cover...options of locations, how and when to plan the plots, etc...)

[dj digigrow]

Great Read!!..
have a Q?... looking to pull off an outdoor op in FL., only problem is.. when I dig out a hole its like 100% sand..... I dug 10 holes so far.. all 2ft wide by 3ft deep...
now just back fill with my mix? wont the roots go deeper than 3' and go into the sand?? will this be a problem??? Just for fun I tried putting a male 8inches tall directly into the ground or shall I say Sand... and within 2 days it was all wilted and leaves were brown... it rained too so I know its not the moisture... I guess its that bloody sand huh?

[Julian]

Try to offer what I can.....

Not too experienced with sand really, but would assume issue is drainage/moisture (too much, too heavy, too compact, etc...), and that problem was root issue more than moisture (lack of) and/or sun....(wilted one thing, but the brown throws me off ....)...I know my city spots that are sooty and sandy, issue tends to be the cover(soil), and, surface temps because no other vegetation surface gets reallllly hot......(was thinking today about getting thermometer in there just for curiosity...direct sun from daybreak till sunset on worst days and no vegetation to help out (those specific spots)....

Issue with holes and such would always be drainage (out of your mix, fast or slow), but, don't think sand would give a quick drainage.....(very tight and absorbent...) I'd assume they would grow into surrounding as long as moisture eased up and enabled it to, but, wouldn't go too fast......soil anywhere anytime is usually not loose enough for roots to cut right through, hence desiring holes even if using the native soil (to break it up a bit....I've done a lot of both (holes, no holes), and, no holes it does grow straight in when soil okay, but, you know....the more broken up the better, the faster they reach out and cut through and take firm hold (I call it "the grab"....)

If drainage is an issue a lot of people semi line the holes to catch all from draining out, but, again,....I would not think sand would be such...could be wrong, not well versed with exact situation, but, seems like the opposite..(absorbent...too much, etc....) If it was me, I'd hit the bottom of the holes with a pitchfork before filling just to make sure and make sure mix used a little light (aeration, perlite, rocks, whatever you have handy....jm2c though......My city spots I do are sand, rocks, soot with some soil.......I just do quick holes with my mix (nutes and crystals because heat dries it quick), and, they work fairly well....

The other thing is when are you talking?, because, I know up north is semi brutal occasionally lately and just getting worse...assume Florida the same....(heat, humidity), so, putting things out now you shouldn't expect em to flawlessly make the transition..(ie: planted into 100 degrees, 100% humidity, direct sun, etc) When they go out in such....you expect problems and a slower start.....settle in, etc....after grab, they're good to go though....

I'd assume though issue with sand is aeration/air and drainage....

[chrones]

looks like you got this down to the t well good luck on your grow and it would be awsome to see some pics

[Julian]

Back to the money topic for a moment........

Now, many will say some things out of reach of the "average" person, etc (properties, land, pools, etc...)

To which I would simply offer a small amount of remedial math .....

300-400k......which in the majority of the nation you can get something nice, on a couple acres or more, with a pool.....well, let's call it , taxes, insurance, utilities, etc...4k a month......which to some might be a single p...but, , instead, let's be conservative and call it 1.5p's.....

(Actually.....the majority of the nation, outside a metro (maybe up to an houyr out), what one can secure for such is far beyond what most would believe....I know at least 30 states 400k 1hr from a metro will have you living very comfortably .....I only know of a few places where it will not....

That's 18p's a year to completely pay for all housing and utilities if one saw fit to....

18lbs from outdoor is not a lot, and, actually, a fairly low amount in the whole sceme of things, and, assuming one is working as they should, maybe even a spouse also working (because as has been said before, it's not a career, it's gravy), very reasonable expectations and fairly safe from all angles (getting rid of 18lbs for about 2500 each over the course of an entire year ....) Call it 18 larger plants....call it 200 smaller.....or, even call it only 6 large well tended , good strains....6 plants?.....very quick and simple (or 200 small ones...)

Now, on the other end of the spectrum and as mentioned before you have peoples lifestyles which come into play, and, I know people who spend 3k a month on coffee and dinner here and there ....on cd'd......toys....even more...so......no...those are very reasonable, very conservative estimates....(I'd say myself 100 is reasonable for a fairly wooded and somewhat secluded private lot fenced........so....18?.....pi ece of cake, walk in the park )

Furthermore, I would schedule such that plants ready for transport by day of closing...with reserves on hand

[Ganico]

How do you dry yours outdoors? Up in shady trees, or what?