[Julian]

Thanks.....but,considering at any given time I have a headset on, 4 lines, emails, and 10 other windows open....(multiple monitors..)

No actually.....

(I actually make the greatest share of my income at this time. If I have a call?, I don't reply.If I have an email? I don't reply. If I have a trade? I don't reply...otherwise....in between, I kill the time...)

The "long" posts above usually take me on average less than 5 minutes to put out...

(This one, much less than a minute....)

Edit: Besides? what are you talking about?, threads only a couple days old, with a couple posts and before that I was gone for a while pretty much..

[pumpkin2006]

Trust me, I know all about hard work and what it takes. My grow is small (compared to many) at 6k, but it still creates a lot of work; along with producing mannny clones for others and outdoor runs (mine and others[others that don't know much and need some advice]). Really what I was trying to say is, things like your railroad spots or various other places, that one would not normally see as an option, I do see as an option... always have. Problem is, I have to bring in water, which compromises security and security is #1 priority. So those spots are out of the question. I mean, are you gonna put a series of trashcans next to your RR spots?

Mind, you I do find places to grow, plenty of places to grow, its all about: Can I pull my vehicle near enough to pump water? Whats the closest resident? Ya ya ya, we all know the routine. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The middle of a blackberry patch is the place to grow, just getting to the middle and "hollowing" it out is the PITA.

Mostly my last comment was said out of envy.... its an ugly thing when it rears its head. Your able to do a lot more volume because of your environment. My time is limited be other aspects and challenges that are in my environment.

If there's one thing that I would like to add to this thread it would be: If you want to do this, you want to be commercial, or whatever you wanna call it (caregiver), then you need to simplify your life. Don't put yourself into situations or relationships that will limit your abilities... like girlfriends, kids, a hardcore job that takes a lot of your time, even friends to an extent. You don't wanna be picking up your kid or working overtime when you should be doing other things to maintain your operation/s. This also means, don't create stress for yourself, try and take anything that would phase you, out of your life. Its all about mindstate and how you handle yourself.

I've been stupid and my current position, is limited by my surroundings. In less then 3 months, I'll be in an entirely different situation, I had to learn the hard way.

[DimeBag65]

well we know you can type fast and multitask.. now we wanna see some growing!! everything sounds great so far... hope you get done what your planning on accomplishing. Best wishes with the grow...

[Julian]

Originally Posted by pumpkin2006

Trust me, I know all about hard work and what it takes. My grow is small (compared to many) at 6k, but it still creates a lot of work; along with producing mannny clones for others and outdoor runs (mine and others[others that don't know much and need some advice]). Really what I was trying to say is, things like your railroad spots or various other places, that one would not normally see as an option, I do see as an option... always have. Problem is, I have to bring in water, which compromises security and security is #1 priority. So those spots are out of the question. I mean, are you gonna put a series of trashcans next to your RR spots?

Well, like I said....then you alter approach. Personally, I think in such a situation (yours, as described), I would probably stick to late batches, stock site much earlier in season, and, work with that...Save 2-3 months work (veg, water), and, have much less in front of me, and, make it up on the numbers and have less because patches tighter spaced...) Throw some crystals in mix (wet and dry), try to capture more rain (if any) etc....seems like easiest solution...least amount of work (which is always what anyone desires...or should...if a way to do it "smarter", then, of course, that's the way .)

Mind, you I do find places to grow, plenty of places to grow, its all about: Can I pull my vehicle near enough to pump water? Whats the closest resident? Ya ya ya, we all know the routine. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The middle of a blackberry patch is the place to grow, just getting to the middle and "hollowing" it out is the PITA.

Nettles aren't bad either

I've also found out the hard way recently a poison sumac location is pretty good too (ivy,oak,sumac.....all of them around...not even sure what I had )

Mostly my last comment was said out of envy.... its an ugly thing when it rears its head. Your able to do a lot more volume because of your environment. My time is limited be other aspects and challenges that are in my environment.

I agree, and, credit it above for much, but, I assure you, the amount of work that I do from start to finish of year, I again assure you...is not something to envy....

I'm greateful also because if I had an environment that required more work, I'd even be working myself into the ground more than I do so.....

If there's one thing that I would like to add to this thread it would be: If you want to do this, you want to be commercial, or whatever you wanna call it (caregiver), then you need to simplify your life. Don't put yourself into situations or relationships that will limit your abilities... like girlfriends, kids, a hardcore job that takes a lot of your time, even friends to an extent. You don't wanna be picking up your kid or working overtime when you should be doing other things to maintain your operation/s. This also means, don't create stress for yourself, try and take anything that would phase you, out of your life. Its all about mindstate and how you handle yourself.

4 households, 3 business's, personal life, and ops......I would agree ....(actually it's the ops that really put me over the top timewise....)

Just can't give it up though ...Maybe so long now....I dunno....anwyway!

On a different note I am now taking care of med patients (couple people, older (60's-70's) straight people, never even took a drink or smoked a cigarette in their life....going through Chemo...heard from a foafoaf would help....and, you know....wish I would have discovered it sooner (or had the opportunities......very spiritually fulfilling......(They originally were asking about buying some to try.....they get it all free...not going to take money from older sick people......)

Really glad that I have the honor and privilege to do so.......wish everyone who doesn't would(could...I just never was asked, etc...).....kind of puts a different spin on it....

I've been stupid and my current position, is limited by my surroundings. In less then 3 months, I'll be in an entirely different situation, I had to learn the hard way.

Ahhh...another...welcome to the club (the "I learned the hard way" club....)

Never fun, but, lesson sticks much better than the traditional learning methods, eh?

[Julian]

Originally Posted by DimeBag65

well we know you can type fast and multitask.. now we wanna see some growing!! everything sounds great so far... hope you get done what your planning on accomplishing. Best wishes with the grow...

I always do......

Thanks man....Likewise....

(I keep forgetting so early in season......)

[pakalolo420]

In no particular order:

GPS- Useful- frees you from having to rely on visual cues which will mean following similar paths- making trails. Carry the last 7 digits of the lat/lon coordinates on paper and manually enter them into the GPS once you in the area. Use a simple cypher you can remember to code the numbers, they will look like phone numbers nothing more. Erase all the stored data before leaving.

City Soil: Remember cities were generally begun as either ports or farming centers. City soils are frequently excellent to begin with- some of the finest natural farmland will have been developed over. Waste areas in cities will often have once been prize farmland.

Seeds: Outdoor, a thousand seeds per plant is completely doable, I've seen a lot more. The resulting seeds will be on average about as good as their parents and will be selected for your local conditions and tend to be earlier for the same reason. IMO these DIY seeds will be absolutely as good as any you can buy if you chose the parents wisely. Imagine if J left his spots with males alone. I don't doubt there'd be loads of volunteers just from dropped seed the following spring. Once the plant is established in an area in mid-America it can thrive. Cannabis likes to grow in bunches of plants together. If cannabis grows wild- or could- in your area, the growing part will be hard to screw up if you put enough out.

Middle of the blackberry patch and watering: If there is a nasty big blackberry patch, there will be sufficient water in the soil to grow without irrigation. Blackberries don't really tolerate dry much better than cannabis and they have almost identical cultural requirements. The downside is well obviously the thorns and impenetrability but aside from that, you'll have go in and cut back the berries a few times to keep them from being overgrown. Canes can grow shockingly fast and choke out a clearing in their midst. The thorns and all are also upsides.

More generally any spot that can survive the summer looking green with lush healthy weeds will have sufficient groundwater and likely fertility for successful cannabis cultivation with no irrigation. Any.

[dj digigrow]

I'm addicted to this thread!!

[pumpkin2006]

Middle of the blackberry patch and watering: If there is a nasty big blackberry patch, there will be sufficient water in the soil to grow without irrigation. Blackberries don't really tolerate dry much better than cannabis and they have almost identical cultural requirements. The downside is well obviously the thorns and impenetrability but aside from that, you'll have go in and cut back the berries a few times to keep them from being overgrown. Canes can grow shockingly fast and choke out a clearing in their midst. The thorns and all are also upsides.

You know, I really haven't explored many of the blackberry patches ground for water. There was one, but it was just so saturated, I figured the plants would drown. More often then not, I've just thrown them in pots on top of the blackberries; it was easier then taking the blackberries out.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by pakalolo420

City Soil: Remember cities were generally begun as either ports or farming centers. City soils are frequently excellent to begin with- some of the finest natural farmland will have been developed over. Waste areas in cities will often have once been prize farmland.

Well, and of course almost everything in most places was basically undeveloped until 50-60 years ago anyway also.....any city, anywhere....

Seeds: Outdoor, a thousand seeds per plant is completely doable, I've seen a lot more. The resulting seeds will be on average about as good as their parents and will be selected for your local conditions and tend to be earlier for the same reason. IMO these DIY seeds will be absolutely as good as any you can buy if you chose the parents wisely. Imagine if J left his spots with males alone. I don't doubt there'd be loads of volunteers just from dropped seed the following spring. Once the plant is established in an area in mid-America it can thrive. Cannabis likes to grow in bunches of plants together. If cannabis grows wild- or could- in your area, the growing part will be hard to screw up if you put enough out.

Absolutely.....every year I find loads and loads of strays in the farther out op.......have no idea where they came from....not things I grew previous year, so, figure they just came from another patch somewhere (someone else's....via the proverbial birdshit route )....If fems? I just let em go..little bit extra stuff on top...

Middle of the blackberry patch and watering: If there is a nasty big blackberry patch, there will be sufficient water in the soil to grow without irrigation. Blackberries don't really tolerate dry much better than cannabis and they have almost identical cultural requirements. The downside is well obviously the thorns and impenetrability but aside from that, you'll have go in and cut back the berries a few times to keep them from being overgrown. Canes can grow shockingly fast and choke out a clearing in their midst. The thorns and all are also upsides.

You know....that's very interesting (blackberries) because, I could swear, when we were doing a new spot, I was seeing what looked like them, and, you know.....I never really pay attention to all that stuff..(Nettles and Poison family, well, you can't help it , but, interesting....(This spot...we never did this one before.....but looking like a good one...) Shitloads of nettles.....I think a mulberry tree or two....and Loads of Sumac(Partner trying to find plants...needs to be whacked down big time to find everything..)

More generally any spot that can survive the summer looking green with lush healthy weeds will have sufficient groundwater and likely fertility for successful cannabis cultivation with no irrigation. Any.

I agree....absolutely....(They're getting it from somewhere, right? )

[pakalolo420]

Hmmm... I actually use the plants already growing on site as the primary means of determining the suitability of a site from a cultural perspective. After enough years of sticking plants everywhere, one inevitably begins to notice a correlation between what existing plants are growing in a spot and how well your plantings perform. Sumac, Giant Ragweed, Asiatic Blackberries, big nettles (nettles are more shade tolerant than cannabis so bear this in mind), thistles or lambsquarters ... really any fast growing, vigorous- particularly annual- plants will tell you everything you need to know about groundwater, sun, soil fertility even soil pH. If you have a dry grow season where you are, look for green spots not in the spring but during the previous growing season when green areas will tell you where there is groundwater.

I successfully grew for a couple of years in a desert or nearly so- maybe 10-15 inches annual precip- sans irrigation/watering, by carefully noting areas that stayed green into the late summer. Especially in hilly terrain there will almost inevitably be areas, even in arid places, where there will be groundwater seeping towards the surface. In the spring when it's green everywhere these spots are nearly invisible.

Originally Posted by pumpkin2006

More often then not, I've just thrown them in pots on top of the blackberries; it was easier then taking the blackberries out.

I can't let this go without mentioning that pots will require regular watering, which means frequently hauling heavy containers, trampling a highway to your spot. This might be OK in your backyard where you feel relatively safe, but for geurilla growing it is bad practice. The idea is NOT to need to visit your spots rather than creating a situation where you constantly need to. Growing in containers is almost never a good idea for the geurilla grower. The only exception I've seen are swamp and marsh grows where the containers are set to be self watering.