[Goldenseed]

Hey @ all here on icmag,
this is only my third post but i´m on this forum for nearly 3 years.For the question:will the Esb/hollyweed x haze be available again.If it will be,could you please tell me when this will be(for sure not the exact date,i know this isn´t possible).But maybe this fall or winter??
Thanks alot in advance!!!!

PS:Sorry for the bad english skillz :wink:

Hey @ all here on icmag,
this is only my third post but i´m on this forum for nearly 3 years.For the question:will the Esb/hollyweed x haze be available again.If it will be,could you please tell me when this will be(for sure not the exact date,i know this isn´t possible).But maybe this fall or winter??
Thanks alot in advance!!!!

Hola,

Yes they will be available again shortly. We are restocking the distributors now.

Should be one to two weeks maximum.

Peace, hhf

[Goldenseed]

Hola hhf,

Thanks alot for your fast reply.I dont have anymore questions so stay safe and healthy and green and all that stuff

[zamalito]

This is a very important cross. All 3 lines used are tied to the BOEL (brotherhood of eternal love) and represent a mixing of the best of the drug gene pool of the 60's and 70's. Its an important one for every seed collector but also has now extinct genes from central Mexico (Popocateptl, Zacatecas), Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan. My theory is that the haze has some amazing Sri Lankan genetics mentioned by BOEL leadership that they acquired on one of their many surfing trips there. Some members of BOEL have stated that while on one of their surfing trips to the island they discovered a small cannabis growing community that produced the finest herb any of them had seen which is saying a lot. It seems likely that seeds or herb would've been brought back. I actually have doubts that there's any thai in the haze at all and there may not even be any Keralian. Sri Lanka is located in the Indian ocean between south India and Thailand and central to ancient trade routes from India, Thailand and southern Africa. I've never heard that the holyweed was bred from BOEL imports but they were running large cannabis production facilities at Big Sur during the era this strain came from.

I do not know how closely tied to the Brotherhood these particular genes are bro, but i suspect that many genes around that period in time where traded and shared by them. Perhaps with them as the channel for them coming into Cali. We know this, as it came direct from Danbo about the Big Sur Holyweed/ESB side.

the HW originally came from Big Sur California.

It was supposedly bred by a monk by the name of Perry, in the 1960s. I've used it since the early 1970s when it came to me via San Francisco. It was one of the first Indica, Sativa crosses in that day and age.

Danbo made the ESB x BSHW cross. We have that at F5, (from F2) and will release some of those stocks. It is a excellent, high yielding line, very stable for the quality of high, much more towards BSHW than ESB plant types. We are also releasing Big Sur Holyweed in pure original form soon, preservation of that line is done and the seeds curing now.

The cross with the pure Haze really does make this a combination of some of the best and oldest acclimatised Californian heirloom Sativas. The F5 ESBHW cross to Haze gives relatively stable plants of huge natural vigour and I personally look forward to seeing the F2's on from these, some truly special ones in there for sure.

These are all great genetics, for the outdoors sub 40', the old masters did some wonderful selections in these genepools.

Peace, hhf

[Goldenseed]

Hola!!

Thanks again for all that nice info.Keep it coming,you make me really hungry.
What you think about growing the "esb/hollyweed x haze" indoors?

Thanks and keep up your good and really important work

Edit:Today I´ve seen that my question makes absolutely no sense,I corrected it,Im so damn sorry i was really high

What you think about growing the "esb/hollyweed x haze" indoors?

This cross re-named 'big sur haze' (thanks jingles), is truly outstanding indoors

The f5 ESB/Holyweed line is very adapted to indoors and 12hr lighting, it makes the the plants a lot faster to react to the onset of 12hr lighting from vegetative growth. The plants are huge, indoors or out and grow with massive vigour both above and below soil, this one develops huge root systems.

In test grows indoors it has produced some of our favourite Sat dom herbs. It is a heavy production plant that can yield really big given space and does well under normal lighting regimes and HPS for such a heavy Sativa dominant. The ESb x Holyweed side of the hybrid is inbred for the wider leaf and tighter internodes of the holyweed and is great combination with the haze that tightens the internodes, flowers and adds great vigour.

Here is a not so good pic of a nug from the Big Sur Haze, you can see that the Haze purple colours carry over into the hybrid. The flowers cure to a earthy, musky real 'oldschool' flavours and the high is a mile wide, as is usually the smile when you smoke her.




paz, flores

wow, that looks nice

There are some pics of Big Sur Holyweed on this thread:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=41160

I've posted this info before, butHolyweed is an old Mexican cultivar cultivated in Cali:

The center of the marijuana-growing industry in the United States is in northern California, especially Humboldt County, where growers use the latest scientific methods to produce first-quality crops. California marijuana is not only as good as most foreign varieties but far more likely to reach American consumers in a relatively fresh state, at or near peak potency. Among the best California varieties is one known as Big Sur Holy Weed, which was originally grown from seeds of Zacatecas Purple, a rare Mexican strain.[13]

13. California marijuana: William Carlson, "Marijuana Crops Revived California Town," New York Times, 1l March 1979. See also John Dowdy, "Spice Valley, U.S.A.: Marijuana Moonshiners," Atlantic Monthly, January 1979, pp.6-24. (back)

from High Culture: Marijuana in the Lives of Americans by William Novak, Chapter 11. Varieties of Marijuana

https://www.psychedelic-library.org/high_culture11.htm

After looking round the net for more info, the story I found was that Holyweed is actually a Zacatecas Purple x Afghani (or Hindu Kush) hybrid bred by a Buddhist monk called Perry in 1963. (I'm not making this up, go Google it yourself!)

I have a strain called Big Sur Speed Weed that is an heirloom I was gifted it by an old-timer who got it for a really old old-timer up in the hills, it's an IBL of Mexican sativas and may have some Thai in it. Produces huge trees outdoors in Norcal but indoors it doesn't produce at all, grows great and flowers fine for the first 12 weeks, but by 20 weeks the buds are still very wispy and airy with shrunken, tiny calyxes widely spaced on wispy budstalks, definitely one that needs the full sun and a long season. When grown otudoors it's a speeding, racing, heart pounding psychedelic rollercoaster of a high. I have the remaining seeds in my freezer, I hope to be able to grow them outdoors somewhere one day.

[la mano negra]

Hola
Esb/hw x haze under mediterranean sun