[-VT-]

High coco brothas...and sistas
I'm interested in hearing about any side by sides and experimentaion you guys have done in coir.
So many ways to irrigate, feed, etc....
Wondering what side by sides and experiments you guys have conducted...

C'mon...share your results, and post any pics to corroborate your findings if need be...

For those of you who never post pics for security...please do not be dissuaded from contributing

I implore folks stick to personal experiences and tests, as opposed to the "theoretical" growing....

Let's come together to make this thread informative!!!

[SilverSurfer_OG]

good idea VT

We have already learnt that bat guano is the bomb in coco. See my sig for proof

I really wanna get my hands on some pine oil ferts for a side by side.

[-VT-]

Thanks SiverSurfer_OG
Yes, I tagged that one. One of my favorites :smile:

I experimented with pure coco side by side with coco/perlite (50/50), and concluded growth rates were better in pure coco. The coco I used was a fine grade coco....and the perlite was Fox Farm's chunky perlite.

Coco/perlite was less vulnerable to overfert. But my side by side was short-lived due to extenuating circumstances beyond my control I plan to revisit this side by side.....and have plans for many more....nothing like a hands on side by side. I have to see for myself to truly believe...

I need to google pine oile ferts Never heard of them....

Thanks again for your contribution

Who is going to do the experiment to see if frequent waterings out yield less watering under the same conditions...

[thc43]

Hey V-T,

ive been playing around with coco for a while and love a good test or experiment.

clone in 80% perlite 20% coco

have used perlite in the soil mix but means i need to water alot more often, probally a good thing alowing pots to dry out alittle more between feeds.

tried all sizes of pots from 1litre to 55litre per plant, one Bed grow in a ebb/ flo tray, handwatered, drip fed..


I havnt read the PDf from canna but am hearing the same thing from my local grow shop guy through the canna rep. I remember when i first started using canna recomended 2.6ec. rhizo all the time, Pk from week two at 1ml. Things have changed now i think the recomending 2.0ec as an absolute Max and less waterings.

Only comparison i have is drip fed vs hand water once a day, i normally have a few smaller plants. clones under canopy that are hand fed till they find a home the drip fed always has better looking rooties and yields better but there isnt nuch in it.. with drip fed from a res you can really push the plants beond there peak nute use if increased very slowly with regular flushes..


well indica sativa
im a slacker and hand watering more than a couple of pots per day sounds a bit too much like hard work .. I liike run2waste refilling the res every 10days and if i stick to one brand of nute and addys i dont get any sludge or res problems, If i add neem wax/oil, fulvic acid, bio bugs, canadian express zym or hygrozym i get issues.. Neem being the worst turns to cheese like consistancy over night if res temps get lower than 15c and basicliy isnt soluable.

IMo canna is being very safe with there recomendations now, growing from clone is far different to seed, and on the odd accasion ive burnt plants fast using too much PK or allowing res to go over 3.0ec burning seed plants.

[clowntown]

Wow great thread!

I've been doing a little bit of research here on coco and it seems I've run into several things that weren't quite clear, including the pure fine coco vs. fine coco + perlite and frequent vs. occasional waterings... like this recent thread...

[thc43]

hey clown town,

iuse any of the pre flushed pre buffed non compressed coco in bags, cogR boards have different size particals smaller at the top bigger towards the bottom apparently improving air exchange in these small cogR trays and slabs. Dont think the canna slabs are buffed and are nomally compressed but they preform well with 3 plants per tray 3 to 4 trays per light. Stay tuned to that watering thread i think the amount and how many feeds might be related to pot/ plant size and maby indica / sativa drinking more, more often. small pots will need smaller but more often maby 6x waterings(cogr boards) per light on. a 30 to 50 litre pot with one plant would do well with only one or two feeds more than that isnt needed unless the 1 plant is under many lights.

Last week the biggest siezed plant in OZ was found taking up a whole bed room. 6x lights over a 3m x 4m scrogged plant apparently police have seen nothing like it before and depending on the state could be elligable for a caution no charge being less that 2 plants, But im thinking they will rewrite the law just because of this case. wonder how long this guy vegged for.

I have been to many hydro shops around my town and I cannot find the Coarse coco blocks: sunleaves coco, or Profit discs

So, It looks like I will be buying a few(5) 50L bags of Canna coco... unless someone can direct me to a good place to buy Sunleaves coco blocks.

Next crop I am rotating out of rockwool, and into 2 gallon Perfect Pots, 1 dripper per pot. I will drip 1x a day for 5-10 minutes to start, and will adjust as the plants tell me.

My question to some of you coco mofos, is... do you always put a mat under your coco pots/trays? I was thinking a mat on the bottom would help contain sediment and filter the res water... also allowing roots to hide down under.

[imnotcrazy]

I want to know when they are gonna make our boy -VT- the " Experimentation Guru"..

He's always comin up with new methods and side by side tests and this helps ALL OF US in a sense.. Good show as usual Brother V.

EDIT: If it got put to a vote, you can count on mine faster than I will run toi the Presidential polls. At least I know you're no slacker like the dufus candidates we're gonna have

[clowntown]

Neptune, I've had a similar experience as well; we probably go to the exact same stores (and maybe even bumped into each other in the past once without even realizing!) I'm currently set up similarly to what you describe, 2 gallon perfect pots (Bato square pots) on top of an E/F table to catch runoff.

There is a bit of coco sediment / etc that comes out, especially at the beginning, but it shouldn't be a problem particularly after you've settled in and the loose coco stops "leaking" out. I'm running drain to waste so it's really not an issue for me, but in recirculation a pump filter bag / sock would prevent any problems.

I don't really see the need for a mat (I'm assuming you mean one of those coco root mats) for this type of setup, since most of the root mass can/will fit in the container. The mat also doesn't allow you to move plants around, if you needed to.

But then again all of that's only from a few weeks of experience, so things may change...