[Okie grown]

PB reg. is totatly organic.But pbp cannot be omri cetified because there something in it that omri dont concider 100% organic (or some crap).But Texas kid can vouch for this pbp with cal-mag and liquid k is organic enouf.Throw in bio bizz top max for a top booster.And i dont think that combo can be beat.

It's much more effective to just watch them bitches. Problem here , add this and that.

I have tried so many variations wth the mix of PBP and as a stand alone nute without the LK, CalMag, Silica, Seaweed Blast, and bud booster it doesn't matter if you use a little or alot of the PBP, it's the ammendments that kick it up

Tex.

[GreatLakes THC]

Originally posted by Texas Kid
I have tried so many variations wth the mix of PBP and as a stand alone nute without the LK, CalMag, Silica, Seaweed Blast, and bud booster it doesn't matter if you use a little or alot of the PBP, it's the ammendments that kick it up

I've been thinking of trying PBP some time coming up, so this is great advice for me. DOing a great job Modding TK.

GreatLakes THC

very interesting and at the same time, "do not take what your read for the truth"
Do your research and decide what the fact's tell you.

I am not sure about the TDS reading of what you consider organic, as I take it that mean's what come's from mother earth, or from other animal's; texas kid?
Just asking.

I am not educated enough in organic's to argue, but how long does a organic reservoir take to stew before organic benefit's take place?

I am just wanting to further educate myself and understand thing's, weather I use them or not.

I am switching strain's each run, so I can not do a comparison from one grow to the next, but I have down two basically the same way wit PBP and result's have been okay, but I had mite problem's each time.

Just goe's to prove never thing they are gone even when they are, as they do return.
The borg live's on and on.

I ran 60 day's with out a change to the reservoir with a drip system, 20 gal res topped off with 200 plus gallon's of RO water in that time.

I basically started out at 1/4th strenth mix and worked up to full strength and then there was the scheduled additive's. Top of water was with 15ml of bloom mix up to day 40 for floral cycle. I am not saying this is right, it is just what I did.
TDS level's at a point was higher than what my meter read's, but the plant's seemed to love it and grow for me. The other reason I pushed it so high is because I was dealing with spider mite's and felt the needed all the help possible.

I see I found a site that offer's me a chance to learn more and grow better.

grow safe.
realhigh.

Pure Blend Pro is not 100% certified organic because of the addition of some of the components in Power flower and one other one that I have to look up that are not 100% organic sources. The readings on the PBP are much higher than the same mix of the original Pure Blend which is 100% organic. The higher concentrations of nutrients do not show on the meter the same way as with the PBP does.

I have reverted back to the original Pure Blend hydro formulas and the ammendments Cal-Mag, Liquid Karma, and Top Max as a bloom booster. I will also continue to use a little Silica Blast early to mid veg as well.

But my TDS/EC meter reads much much lower than the PBP equivilant mix.

I am also looking at doing a Metanatruals organic grow also in the next little bit. The best I can tell there are only two or three companies that have 100% certified organic regimes. Pure Blend(original formula), Metanatruals, and Fox farm all have a nute regime combination that can stay all 100% organic.

Still reading and learning myself so I will keep looking for the advantage over these bitches and pass it on.

Tex

[Okie grown]

bio bizz is omri organic.And so is age old organics.

Bio Bizz is great but I have been gettin wierd feedback from people using their whole line as well as from Bio Bizz distributors.

They have had a bad batch or something and have recalled certain batch numbers of their product. It seems that the smell of rancid or ritten meat has been a common problem lately for alot of Bio Bizz users(not just BG). Several claim the smell has caused undo attention being brought just from the smell and try to dispose of the reservior mixes.

I only use the Topmax and not the whole line so I personally have not experienced the smell. I tseems to be the combination of the nutes that cause the smell and not the individual additives.

Age Old Organics is on my list for research as well as Metanatruals

Tex

[highlife4me]

TK: How often I find the info you post useful. Been getting ready to do the switch to hydro/organic (been growing in soil), so I've been reading up a bit on everything I should probably know. I didn't realize that I wouldn't be able to use a tds tester (effectivly) in a hydro-organic setup, but I was on the edge of buying one... should I not? I will have access to regular PB for veg (if I like), but I was planning on using GH Flora Nova Bloom for flowering... I'm guessing that's a chemical organic mix (like the PBP, as you mentioned); will I still be able to put a tds tester to proper use? And will the part organic affect the readings? If so, what PPM would you rec. with the Flora Nova Bloom? Almost PMed this question to ya, but figured your answer may provide help for others, as well. Thanks!

[highlife4me]

Think I found the answers out for myself; sorry for intruding on this thread. Feel free to still answer if you like Tex, but after searching the treads I know I'll still need that tds tester, and that the flora nova is indeed not all organic... which I should have already known since I found a previous thread of my own where that was already mentioned LOL Gotta love a stoner Actually, I still do have a question... however it is probably a very very newbie(ish) question: How exactly do you flush a hydroponics system? Do you just add a product like clearex and wait so long before you change the reservoir? If so, how long do you wait after you add it? I may be way of track, but I'm hoping you (or anyone else) can put me on track. Thanks!... again!

Flushing is done many way's and I am sure some will say that is wrong and this is right.

I am not sure which is the best way or the right way.

Some like to start a flush cycle of water a few week's before harvest. They just drain out nutrient's and refill with ph corrected water and let the plant's feed on this. The first few hour's of it being used it will increase in TDS. Some will run the first batch of water 24 hour's, drain it out, refill with fresh water and start feeding again.

A healthy plant can survive a few week's on water alone with the stored nutrient's that are in the plant.

I tired the clearex product, not impressed with it, it might be good on the removal of nutrient's from medium, but I do not think it flushed the plant's all that good, but then maybe I did not wait long enough for them to plant's to use up stored nutrient's.

The idea of the flush is to have the plant use it's stored nutrient's up before harvest occur's so that they are not smoked.

I do not like a two week flush as I feel I am takeing the food away to soon. I like to push them as long as I can then I pour a gallon of water down each planter, drain the reservoir, refill with plain water, and run the system like usual. I watch the TDS to peak, then I drain and refill with fresh water again. It take's a few time's of doing this before TDS level's in the water get to a low and stay there.

Some day a grower will get the meter's to measure NPK value's and take them before the flush and then again after to find exactly how long one need's to do it before the plant is clean. I just feel it is only a matter of day's in good condition's and not week's.

I am sure the brand of nutrient's is a biggy in this one as I am sure some leave more behind than other's.

I am sure there are alot of grower's that do not flush, but I have tried non flush and flushed bud with PBP nute's and personally I feel the flushed smoke's better and is much smoother. Taste and aroma seem's to be stronger in the flushed bud also.
Just my observation on it.

grow safe.

realhigh.