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Old 10-01-2004, 07:40 AM #1
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PURE BLEND Pro ™
One Part, Stand Alone Hydro-organic Plant Food

PURE BLEND ™ Pro is a hydro-organic vegetative and fruit and flower formula. A specialty custom blend of organic and natural sources of the essential major, secondary, and trace minerals in 100% soluble form from the land and sea. PURE BLEND ™ Pro produces vigorous lush green vegetation and superior fruits, flowers, and vegetables. When compared to conventional chemical fertilizers, PURE BLEND ™ Pro will provide increased nutritional values and is a healthy, environmentally friendly alternative.

Here are only a few benefits of PURE BLEND ™ Pro. The user will undoubtedly
discover many more benefits in addition to the following:
• Essential elements are not derived from harmful chemicals such as a urea and high concentrates of ammonia nitrate.
• Eliminates the danger of exposing plants (and ultimately the consumer) to toxic heavy metals such as arsenic, mercury, selenium, etc. which often occur as contaminates in conventional chemical fertilizers.
• The organic components of PURE BLEND ™ Pro enhance uptake and utilization of plant nutrients.
• Plants acquire increased pathogen resistance and hardiness.
• Metabolic rate and capacity is greatly amplified enabling the grower to produce fruits and vegetables that contain greater amounts of minerals and vitamins that are crucial
for human nutrition.
• The budding, flowering, fruiting capacity of plants is greatly increased.

Derived From:
Fish meal, composted sea bird guano, sea kelp, spirulina, soybean protein extract, rock phosphate, potassium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate, humic acid*, fulvic acid*, citric acid*, raw sugar cane*, Agrimineral 72 (silica clay extract)*, ami no acids*, B-complex vitamins*, and select botanical plant extracts*.
*Non plant food ingredients

PURE BLEND PRO ™ Soil Formula
Hydro-organic Fruit and Flower Soil Formula

American Agritech has specially formulated this organic bloom nutrient formula for plants cultivated in soil and for the final ripening of fruit in the last stage of hydro-organic gardening.

Cultivating fruiting and flowering plants in hydroponics requires less phosphorous levels than potassium and even nitrogen. In hydroponics, phosphorous levels that are too high tend to lock out calcium, magnesium and trace minerals. On the other hand, plants grown in soil need higher phosphorous levels due to clay colloidal particles that bind up phosphorous. Microbes in the soil also compete for the phosphorous.When cultivating fruiting and flowering plants in soil, growers usually need to double or triple phosphorous levels, unlike hydroponics, thus making the 1.5-4-5 formula ideal for soil applications.
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Old 10-10-2004, 05:57 AM #2
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Interesting info pirated

Seeing as all of yah are very into believing that your nutrients are organic , and for the purpose of debate i have a question.
if PBP is actually organic, then how do you explain the ability to precicely measure your nute strength? how does your hoaglin salt meter (aka your "ppm, tds, ec pen or wand) acurately read a nutrient which supposedly has no salts in it?
fact:1 organics do not register on a tds/ec meter.
fact:2 the only organic solution by pb is the original, and their sea blast.
fact:3 neither of these(orginalpb/seablast) works on their own or combined for hydro.

ive kinda dropped out of the thread for a while, but after a new string of pms arguing to the contrary i kinda brushed up on the thread.bottom line is that if your pen reads a specific ppm that resembles a salt formula(chem) IE...300-500-1500ppm or tds, then there is a salt formula in your bottle.it is not the silica that makes it non certifiable its the hydro/salt/chem nutes.
dont believe everything you read.the correct name for the ingredients is a guaranteed minimum analysis. it suposedly guarantees you a minimum of at least said ammount of these specific ingredients. it is not a guarantee of all ingredients in solution. if it was organic your meter would actually need a new tip, cause it would be broken. for you to have similar ec strengths to a chem nutes then there is chem nutes in it.
i challenge anyone in here to get to 1350 ppm with two to three tbsp per gallon using guanos spirulina bone meal blood meal fish meal rock phos and so on , it wont happen. second try to run said tea into your hydro set up and watch in horror as you experience total nutrient lockout.
second of all go to the next national hydro convention(they are free to the public) and ask dr. Tule he will be there and he will tell you, cause he made it.
you dont have to like me , or the truth, but science and fact outweighs rumor and untruth everytime.hoaglin salt meters register salt formulas (metal salts)

do you need to flush your organics? yes!
organic or not metals dont burn.potassium/magnesium will not burn(your bowl wont clear) if they are in too high a concentration. nitrogen is also very harsh on the throat and lungs, all herb organic or inorganic should be properly flushed.
you guys who dont change your res will see an imediate increase in vigor and yield if you start to do so. every two weeks at the least. every week is better. a plant is the only orginism that eats and shits through the same orofice(roots) letting them sit in their own sewage for two months might not actually be ideal, but thats up to you to decide.
all in all this is a great thread,
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have paid the price for the pbp and ran it, folks think that because i have a dissenting opinion i havent obviously tried their perfect solution. when in fact i used to sell the stuff for botanicaire.
for the better part of three years i had enough samples and freebies to do everything i wanted with the stuff. again im not claiming your stuff isnt the goods, doesnt taste great or have an organic feel to it.im not claiming that you all dont have great smoke, im sure you do. but if you all are running ppms over 400 which some of the folks in this thread are running 1350+ ,there is no way that fish meal and guanos +spirulina can do this. there is salt based nutrients in it. thats what chem nutes are. metal salts.
any use of a ppm or tds/ec meter with true organics is a vague educated guess at best. do you think that botanicaire doesnt want this product to be labeled certified organic? of course they would like it cause thats the in sales thing right now.
again you dont have to believe me, but try some fish/guano tea
in a bucket. let it ferment and bubble some air in it. mix it according to the instructions, in fact double or triple it. now with fish bieng from the ocean(salty) your gonna be in for a surprise. stick your meter into it. it wont register 2-300ppm more than your water out the tap. why is this? organics arent that salty.period...
metanaturals and earth juice(plus foxfarm bigbloom) are the only
truly organic nutes available. and neither works that well as a stand alone hydro nute. pbp is a blend of two botanicaire products.
one bieng the original totally organic pb. the other bieng the one part hydro product called power plant/flower. power flower/plant is a chem nute pb the organic and there you have it pbp.
they have done this with other products as well. liquid karma is a blend of the product blast off, and a few extra natural ingredients.
ive used all of their products and again dont believe all you hear.
buy this product because its available and it works, dont buy it to try to uphold your totally organic hydro reputation that has been established with your custies.
and by the way i dont agree. it cost to much for too little. ive achieved better yields and quality with salts in hydro, and better yields and quality with fish kelp and guanos totally organic in soil.
at the price they charge at the local retail per gallon you could seriously afford to try and experiment.
i get my information from treg. he is the president of botanicaire and has been with the company for over 15 yrs, i also have spoken with the creator himsself dr. tule and this is what they told me. if your local hydro guy tells you otherwise i would no longer take advice on these products from him.call the 1-800 number and ask why your ppm meter reads so acurately. they are not shy they are not trying to fool anyone the product is clearly labeled Hydro/Organic ,but you read it and are interpreting the definition differently thats on you. its a blend and they are not required by law to list all the ingredients.
in fact im all for it. i sold more of this stuff than practilly any other nutrient in my three years in front of the register.it works great and is user friendly, for both newbie or pro. if you want to get into the 2+ per light club this isnt the road folks. use it cause it works and the product it produces is quality not because your a stickler for hydro organics....


Take this for what it's worth but I read it and was alot more informed because of it.

Pirated from Rasta/JD on OG

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Post a pick over in the grow equip. forum.

Start a new thread there

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Interesting read Tex and it does make since. Still seems strange though that American Agritech would put in there own 2004 Urban Garden Source Book page 66 in the FAQs.
Question: Which American Agritech products are completely organic?

Answer: Liquid Karma, Pureblend, Pureblend Pro, Clearex, and Activit are each completely organic.

Question: What should my ppm read during each phase of growth?

Answer: It is hard to get true reading when using organic nutrients.

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I do know there is a difference in some organic certifications and being able to state 100% Organic.

I don't track the salt arguement and ppm determining organic content.

Now what will say though is I have got killer results using only trace amonts of nutes(300-500). Not a real significant increase as I've raised the nute levels.

It is also talking about using it as a stand alone nute.

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Now what will say though is I have got killer results using only trace amonts of nutes(300-500). Not a real significant increase as I've raised the nute levels.


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Are these your words Tex? You said that your girls were at 1300-1400 out of veg and then dropped to 1100 for first week of flower with a half and half mix of pbp veg and flower. So therefore the 300-500 you talk about was either in early veg or late flower correct?

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Keep It Simple Stupid K.I.S.S.

I still cannot get over the fact that after all these weeks of postings and readings and even a new organic forum page I'm right back where we started, At least I have come full circle to what Tex was saying in the beginning, Watch your girls,hell they'll tell ya what they want I don't really go by ppm per say I just do what they tell me and use the bottle as a baseline. This is what you told me Tex, And once again I thank You for teaching me something in a few weeks that has taken you a few years learn. There weeds for christ sake they grow wild you said. I'll get some new pics up tomorrow Tex a little short but just starting to bulk up. Have'nt had to slap'em any more since I quit trying to split atoms and let these damn weeds do what they have been doing for millions of years. Tuff Love I guess you can say. There freakin weeds, dammit that some funny shit.


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