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06-02-2006, 06:11 PM

I'm intrested as well in the foliar applications. I currently use it with every watering along with superthrive and it works great. But if I can expand my horizons here a bit more I'd like to, thanks ahead of thime.

mrwags · 06-03-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtySouth

I use LK and love it, definately helps in root developement.

Mr Wags,I never tried using it in a mister on rooted seedlings. What ratio are you using for mist application, and how often you mist with the LK solution?

I have a 32oz pump up sprayer that I can nozzle out tp a fine mist and mix it 3ml to that 32oz. I do not do this alot but have found this to help the leaves from turning yellow in the cloner and being a nice wash down for the girls in the buckets once or twice a month in the veg stage.

Mr.Wags

farmerjim · 06-27-2006, 10:41 AM

The dying of the roots is actually just the humic acid. It's what makes it black. Usually fulvic acid has a golden color. You should notice when first added your resevoir will be black as night after a day the unusable amount of humic acid (the solid humates ) will fall out of your solution to the bottom (or stick to air stones). Not all humates fall out so your water will be dark still but have more of a yellow color from the fulvic acid. The big "magic" in Karma is the humic fulvic they are both natural chelates that will bond with nutes making it easier for the plant to uptake its ferts. Also the plant extracts help add awesome flavor as well as does the humic.
I generally regard humic fulvic as a must for any good grow you will notice that pureblend pro also has a listed 7% humic fulvic. As far as availibility in europe I believe DNA seeds in a-dam is the official UE distributor.

10-02-2006, 07:54 PM

I always use LK at 5ml/gal in my rez. I also use Fossil fuel at half the rate. Probably in the end about the same if you use LK alone but a little bit cheaper for the guys doing it on a budget.

farmerjim · 10-14-2006, 01:38 PM

I wouldnt compare fossil fuel to karma by any means at all. Karma is much more complex and has a huge amount of amino acids. I'm not saying fossil fuel is not a good additive but it just isnt LK

10-15-2006, 12:14 AM

Anyone have any information on the new label liquid karma?

If anyone remembers the old label stated that the stuff had 20% humic acids. If you take a look at the new label it is only .01%.

The community was upset at this change and apparently the old formula is in effect again by customer demand(but still using the new label for FDA clerance in CA or something).

Any truth that the new label is high in humic acids like the old? Seems to work just the same.

Friendly tip for cloning. Mix up a small bowl (1/2 gal) of a mixture of water, hygrozyme, and liquid karma for cloning. Dunk your rapid rooter plugs or rockwool in the mix before popping in your cuttings. Seems to improve and speed things up quite a boit.

Later
PL

farmerjim · 10-15-2006, 08:56 AM

The label changed to match all the new labels. The old label was old and marketing waits for no one. The old label was painted by an artist by the name of James angel he does some trippy work. The formula was changed for a short time in an effort to save money (assuming) on the cost of deriving the humic/fulvic from leonardite shale also it was believed it would work just as well without the higher levels. However the real blame rests on canadas shoulders. Since humic acid and fulvic acid are not actuall fertilizers they have a hard time registering for importing. I believe this is why advanced bottles the engys f1 and h1 products in washington state.
However Karma is now back to the same formula it has always been. and the recomend above for cloning with karma and hygrozyme is good advice. As a matter of fact the highest recomended rates for karmas usage is for clones at 20ml's a gallon. Karma has also been used in tissue culturing tobacco in labs. Personally anything that can grow plants from a tissue sample is A+ in my book.

10-23-2006, 10:51 PM

Guess I need to quit listening to the local hydro guy. Went back to using just LK and that is when I saw the diff. After this grow I am going back to PBP and the line of additives.

**Babbabud** · 10-23-2006, 10:54 PM

Awesome product I love LK indoors hydro and soil and outdoors right in mother earth. She is a standard in my garden and staying that way!!

mrwags · 10-24-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ORPotGuy82

Guess I need to quit listening to the local hydro guy. Went back to using just LK and that is when I saw the diff. After this grow I am going back to PBP and the line of additives.

Your singing to the choir Brother! I love the bBio line and feel it keeps life much simplier.

Mr.Wags

06-27-2006, 10:41 AM	#13
farmerjim Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 28	the skinny on your KARMA The dying of the roots is actually just the humic acid. It's what makes it black. Usually fulvic acid has a golden color. You should notice when first added your resevoir will be black as night after a day the unusable amount of humic acid (the solid humates ) will fall out of your solution to the bottom (or stick to air stones). Not all humates fall out so your water will be dark still but have more of a yellow color from the fulvic acid. The big "magic" in Karma is the humic fulvic they are both natural chelates that will bond with nutes making it easier for the plant to uptake its ferts. Also the plant extracts help add awesome flavor as well as does the humic. I generally regard humic fulvic as a must for any good grow you will notice that pureblend pro also has a listed 7% humic fulvic. As far as availibility in europe I believe DNA seeds in a-dam is the official UE distributor.
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10-15-2006, 12:14 AM	#16
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	New Label LK Anyone have any information on the new label liquid karma? If anyone remembers the old label stated that the stuff had 20% humic acids. If you take a look at the new label it is only .01%. The community was upset at this change and apparently the old formula is in effect again by customer demand(but still using the new label for FDA clerance in CA or something). Any truth that the new label is high in humic acids like the old? Seems to work just the same. Friendly tip for cloning. Mix up a small bowl (1/2 gal) of a mixture of water, hygrozyme, and liquid karma for cloning. Dunk your rapid rooter plugs or rockwool in the mix before popping in your cuttings. Seems to improve and speed things up quite a boit. Later PL
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10-15-2006, 08:56 AM	#17
farmerjim Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 28	BLAME CANADA The label changed to match all the new labels. The old label was old and marketing waits for no one. The old label was painted by an artist by the name of James angel he does some trippy work. The formula was changed for a short time in an effort to save money (assuming) on the cost of deriving the humic/fulvic from leonardite shale also it was believed it would work just as well without the higher levels. However the real blame rests on canadas shoulders. Since humic acid and fulvic acid are not actuall fertilizers they have a hard time registering for importing. I believe this is why advanced bottles the engys f1 and h1 products in washington state. However Karma is now back to the same formula it has always been. and the recomend above for cloning with karma and hygrozyme is good advice. As a matter of fact the highest recomended rates for karmas usage is for clones at 20ml's a gallon. Karma has also been used in tissue culturing tobacco in labs. Personally anything that can grow plants from a tissue sample is A+ in my book.
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10-23-2006, 10:54 PM	#19
Babbabud Bodhisattva of the Earth Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: N. Cal Posts: 9,535	Awesome product I love LK indoors hydro and soil and outdoors right in mother earth. She is a standard in my garden and staying that way!! __________________ (Medical Patient In Compliance) Nam myoho renge kyo !! Mugi wasshin your bud babba Peace/ Be here now Babba's Farm L.L.C.
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06-02-2006, 06:11 PM	#11
WeldFlash420 Guest Posts: n/a	I'm intrested as well in the foliar applications. I currently use it with every watering along with superthrive and it works great. But if I can expand my horizons here a bit more I'd like to, thanks ahead of thime.
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10-02-2006, 07:54 PM	#14
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	I always use LK at 5ml/gal in my rez. I also use Fossil fuel at half the rate. Probably in the end about the same if you use LK alone but a little bit cheaper for the guys doing it on a budget.
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10-14-2006, 01:38 PM	#15
farmerjim Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 28	I wouldnt compare fossil fuel to karma by any means at all. Karma is much more complex and has a huge amount of amino acids. I'm not saying fossil fuel is not a good additive but it just isnt LK
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10-23-2006, 10:51 PM	#18
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Guess I need to quit listening to the local hydro guy. Went back to using just LK and that is when I saw the diff. After this grow I am going back to PBP and the line of additives.
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