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Old 09-29-2004, 11:31 PM #1
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New Organic Ferts!?

went to the good ole shop today and picked up some new stuff!!
EA/EN- Anyone used this stuff before, seems like it could only help!!
Cal-Mag- I've got Mag-whores lol
Pure Blend Pro- Soil formula
Liquid Karma-
Nitrozime-

These are all new ferts and addatives for me, so any suggestions on use would be appreciated
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Start with a weak dilution and then ramp up the conscentration gradually.

You can always add, it's hard as hell to take away.

Beware the bottle instructions, not sure about the soil formulas but the hydro ones can get you screwed up. Super high ppm levels.

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EN/EA - Two-part mycorrhizal inoculants, Earth Nectar and Earth Ambrosia, are for use with soil gardening and in hydroponics systems. When Earth Nectar, containing the concentrated mycorrhizal cultures, is mixed with Earth Ambrosia, the fuel delivery system for the active cultures, they infuse the growing medium with mycorrhiza resulting in stronger plants and increased crop yields.

Nitrozime is designed to provide and restore vital hormone levels for the plants processes of nutrient uptake and distribution, cell division, root development and the production of flowers and fruit. Effective as an additive to hydroponic reservoirs, as a foliar spray, or by soil drenching, Nitrozime is ideal for increased growth and yields in soil or soilless applications. General use rate is 1 - 2 Tbsp per gallon of water. (0-4-4)

Pure Blend Pro for Soil or Coco (1.5-4-5) is a versatile organic plant food gardeners can use in soil gardening for extra phosphorus during the bloom cycle, or in hydroponic system to promote ripening during the last 2-3 weeks before harvest. Pure Blend Pro for Soil or Coco works alone with no need for additional supplements.

Liquid Karma is a potent plant stimulant comprised of seven different nutrients including: amino acids, vitamins, carbohydrates, even guano. Gardeners can use Liquid Karma at all stages of plant growth, from seed right up to harvest. It’s great for transplants too, and has been shown to reduce transplant shock. A great choice for plants' nutrient needs. (1-1-2)

hmm.. how should I use them?
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I think the EN/EA and the Liquid Karma may be redundant. I think they have about the same stuff if I remember the LK lit. right

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Thanks TK!! for the rapid response The EN/EA is used only once a month, and the LK is used every feeding. Can you have too many micro's in the soil???
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hey guys,
actually there is a signifigant difference between LK and EN/EA.

LK is a biostimulant while EN/EA are fungal innoculants for the root zone.
the two actually function quite differently but they compliment themselves quite well.
what EN/EA does is promotes the gfrowth of beneficial fungi in the soil that will make assimilation of the compounds found in LK more efficient.
the way this works is:
the ben. fungi (mycorrhiza) colonise the root zone bonding with the roots themselves. these colonies basically act as receptors for nutrient uptake. the interesting thing is that the colonies will spread from the roots themselves creating what basically amount to a network of receptors that channel nutrition to the roots from areas that the roots themselves have not even reached yet, making the most of your medium.
root bio-mass developement can be greatly enhanced through a healthy level of ben. fungi in soil.

hope that helps

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Yea, what Beans said.lol

Ask and ye shall recieve, thanks for the info Beans.

Not being a soil guy, is there ever a fear of nute lock in the soil or damaging retention of nutes in the soil?

I know with the hydro I can just flush and start over but is dirt that forgiving on loading?

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I use every thing you just got.The nitrozime i use to spray my plants up untill 2 weeks into flower.The en and ea is the only liquid mycorr. product on the market.Im into my 2nd grow with the en and ea and the stuff is great (wont be growing without it).The only 2 things i would add is top max (organic bloom booster) Just ask texas kid about the max.And i would also get earth juice bloom for the last few weeks of flower.The pure blend pro plant foods are the best you can get for hydro or soiless (potting soil)i.m.o.My hydro store only has the reg. bloom but i may have them get me some of the soil coco stuff next time.I use 1 tbs. to a gal. of pbp grow after the plants are a couple weeks old.I feed this with 1 tsp. a gal. cal-max and 1 tbs. a gal. of liquid karma.Thay get this every watering untill about 1 or 2 weeks into flower.Then i switch to pbp bloom and add 1/2 tbs. a gal. of top max and the tsp. of cal-mag and 1 tbs. liquid karma.Thay get this untill thay are about 6 weeks into flower (on a 8 week strain) Then at 6 weeks i start with 1 tbs gal earth juice bloom , 1/2 tbs top max only untill the last couple waterings thay get just water.I never have to flush growing like this but i must point out i dont add anything but lime and extra perlite to my promix no ferts.Thats why i feed with every watering.Hope this helps.OG
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Heres a few pics

This is a sour bubble plant grown just how i said above.The top max brings out the trichs thick.It also makes for a great tasting and smelling smoke.However i hear a product called greenfuse bloom works great with the max.It makes buds big and tight .Top max gives you the frostest best smelling and tastin buds there also tight but it dont seem to make them get fat.Im gonna do some research into this green fuse stuff.Make sure its organic then i will get some and see if what i heard about usein both is true.The nitrozime is also something i will not grow without.Mix 1/2 tsp to a 32 oz spray bottle and spray daily.It realy helps with side branching.I would not use it for a soil drench.Some peps will not spray there plants but i have noticed thay love it!

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Yea, what Beans said.lol

Ask and ye shall recieve, thanks for the info Beans.

Not being a soil guy, is there ever a fear of nute lock in the soil or damaging retention of nutes in the soil?

I know with the hydro I can just flush and start over but is dirt that forgiving on loading?

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the short answer to your question is yes.

nute lock can definatly be a problem in soil.
though, because soil acts as a buffer the symptoms are slower to manifest themselves.

this can be a double edged sword though.
the soil buffer can also delay treatment because you just dont notice the problem as fast

the positive is that you do get more warning before the problem can become fatal.

another negative is that due to the soil buffer your plants are slower to respond to treatment

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