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bongman1221 · 05-12-2007, 05:25 PM

I want to construct a gro cabinet that uses a vertical screen shaped like a tube about 2 feet in diameter. I will hang one or 2 compact enviro grow fluorescent tubes in the centre. My question is after I have trained the plant to grow around the outside of the wire all around the globe once I activate flowering will the buds all shoot through horizontally towards the light and if so what distance would they need between the bulb and the wire,

Is this feasible, will the buds be able to stand up, any im put would be extent before i commit to construction

pleas look in my galery for a pict i couldent figure how to put a pict here

bongman1221 · 05-12-2007, 05:27 PM

heres a pict of my idear, what do u think

Dr. Bloom · 05-12-2007, 05:38 PM

Somebody's built one of those before with a 150 HPS. Hopefully you speak czech (i sure don't) - but it has good pictures anyway and they seem pretty successful at it.

https://grower.cz/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11193

bongman1221 · 05-12-2007, 06:05 PM

ausome picts but i cant make head or tale of it

-VT- · 05-12-2007, 07:15 PM

I have thought of something like this as well, I grow with a vertical barebulb for bloom; and have been for sometime....
Yes, the colas will lean to the light and grow horizontally through the screen....
That's a good question about the distance of the bulb to the wire. I'd have the wire 12" from the bulb...but I would use a 400W or 1kW bulb....so I'd think you could run closer maybe? Course, one has to know the strain they're dealing with (how much it stretches, etc.)...and multiple strains could be an issue, unless each plant had it's on screen.....which could be done. Always nice to have the ability to move plants IMO

I'm new at this, so I am hoping someone experienced shows up to educate us both

Thanks for the thread

peace

luggageeater · 05-12-2007, 07:28 PM

i don't know much about this type of system, but i do know plants, and they will lean in torwards the light but will still try to grow up as well, gravity plays a big role in how a plant develops. it would take allot of training too.

has anyone every tried anything like this: https://www.hhydro.com/cgi-bin/hhydro...IC_SYSTEM.html

i know it is expensive, i wonder how easy one would be to build.

05-14-2007, 07:32 PM

there was an omega thread but its dead right now due to security issues for the threadstarter, it had to get shut down and because its so big it doesnt have a new home yet.

- ezra - · 05-16-2007, 08:41 AM

its a good design for light efficiency, but I think vertically suspended lights work better in a larger setup. The reason is that in this setup, you will not have much floor space to work with, so in that respect it does limit the space efficiency. You have essentially a large space in the center of the cab which is empty. Also, the optimum shape for your cab would be circular (or square), most cabs are rectangular, with the width being much greater than depth, so that is something else to consider. Your cab would have to be the right shape to take advantage of the design.

By all means go for it. The shoots will not grow toward the light anywhere near as much as you think. They will grow upward for the most part as per normal. For small cab setups, I really think that the dished scrog is one of the best ways to increase space efficiency. I am currently re-building my setup which will feature a curved "halfpipe of green" type configuration. If you interested, check the second link in my sig to give you an idea of what I am talking about. That was my first run with this type of setup, and it has great potential. Check out also Underground Man' s setup which is basically the same idea, only his is a 250 hps, not a 400. He also built a custom air cooled hood which is a very good design as well.

good luck, Ez

bongman1221 · 05-19-2007, 08:00 AM

I just want to know the length of the stages n growing weed, when is it ok to add some nurturance I’ve got this natural fish stuff also how long before the seedlings axially start to look like pot plants they really quickly start to sprout and then just stay the same for ages

bongman1221 · 05-19-2007, 08:05 AM

also just one more question I sprout seedlings on a shelf but I’ve bean told that you can do it on the hot back part of your pc monitor it gets to around 35`c is that too hot will it cook my plants what cong of tolerance do spouting seeds have

cheers thanks for all the help

05-12-2007, 05:25 PM	#1
bongman1221 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 28	Spherical Vertical Sea of green I want to construct a gro cabinet that uses a vertical screen shaped like a tube about 2 feet in diameter. I will hang one or 2 compact enviro grow fluorescent tubes in the centre. My question is after I have trained the plant to grow around the outside of the wire all around the globe once I activate flowering will the buds all shoot through horizontally towards the light and if so what distance would they need between the bulb and the wire, Is this feasible, will the buds be able to stand up, any im put would be extent before i commit to construction pleas look in my galery for a pict i couldent figure how to put a pict here
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bongman1221 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 28	heres a pict of my idear, what do u think Last edited by bongman1221; 05-12-2007 at 05:30 PM..
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05-12-2007, 05:38 PM	#3
Dr. Bloom Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 465	Somebody's built one of those before with a 150 HPS. Hopefully you speak czech (i sure don't) - but it has good pictures anyway and they seem pretty successful at it. https://grower.cz/forum/showthread.php?threadid=11193
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bongman1221 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 28	ausome picts but i cant make head or tale of it
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05-12-2007, 07:15 PM	#5
-VT- Voluptuous Trichomes Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,773	I like this concept I have thought of something like this as well, I grow with a vertical barebulb for bloom; and have been for sometime.... Yes, the colas will lean to the light and grow horizontally through the screen.... That's a good question about the distance of the bulb to the wire. I'd have the wire 12" from the bulb...but I would use a 400W or 1kW bulb....so I'd think you could run closer maybe? Course, one has to know the strain they're dealing with (how much it stretches, etc.)...and multiple strains could be an issue, unless each plant had it's on screen.....which could be done. Always nice to have the ability to move plants IMO I'm new at this, so I am hoping someone experienced shows up to educate us both Thanks for the thread peace __________________ -VT-
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05-12-2007, 07:28 PM	#6
luggageeater New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: somewhere you don't Posts: 2	i don't know... i don't know much about this type of system, but i do know plants, and they will lean in torwards the light but will still try to grow up as well, gravity plays a big role in how a plant develops. it would take allot of training too. has anyone every tried anything like this: https://www.hhydro.com/cgi-bin/hhydro...IC_SYSTEM.html i know it is expensive, i wonder how easy one would be to build.
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05-14-2007, 07:32 PM	#7
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	there was an omega thread but its dead right now due to security issues for the threadstarter, it had to get shut down and because its so big it doesnt have a new home yet.
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05-16-2007, 08:41 AM	#8
- ezra - .strangelove. Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: a cavernous subterranean lair Posts: 1,622	its a good design for light efficiency, but I think vertically suspended lights work better in a larger setup. The reason is that in this setup, you will not have much floor space to work with, so in that respect it does limit the space efficiency. You have essentially a large space in the center of the cab which is empty. Also, the optimum shape for your cab would be circular (or square), most cabs are rectangular, with the width being much greater than depth, so that is something else to consider. Your cab would have to be the right shape to take advantage of the design. By all means go for it. The shoots will not grow toward the light anywhere near as much as you think. They will grow upward for the most part as per normal. For small cab setups, I really think that the dished scrog is one of the best ways to increase space efficiency. I am currently re-building my setup which will feature a curved "halfpipe of green" type configuration. If you interested, check the second link in my sig to give you an idea of what I am talking about. That was my first run with this type of setup, and it has great potential. Check out also Underground Man' s setup which is basically the same idea, only his is a 250 hps, not a 400. He also built a custom air cooled hood which is a very good design as well. good luck, Ez __________________ end transmission... ~DrStrangelove~ esbe: "We are not criminals, we grow our own shit and don't want to support gangsters and terrorists. We are freedom fighters and nature lovers and our hobby does not hurt one single person." Last edited by - ezra -; 05-16-2007 at 08:48 AM..
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05-19-2007, 08:00 AM	#9
bongman1221 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 28	Life span I just want to know the length of the stages n growing weed, when is it ok to add some nurturance I’ve got this natural fish stuff also how long before the seedlings axially start to look like pot plants they really quickly start to sprout and then just stay the same for ages
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05-19-2007, 08:05 AM	#10
bongman1221 Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 28	also just one more question I sprout seedlings on a shelf but I’ve bean told that you can do it on the hot back part of your pc monitor it gets to around 35`c is that too hot will it cook my plants what cong of tolerance do spouting seeds have cheers thanks for all the help
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