[speedracer-x]

So I had an issue with my last F13 in flower. This one showed signs of being female about 3 weeks ago (she is about 8 weeks old) and has been in veg with 24/0 lighting. She is in a 1 1/2 gallon pot, LST'd and pruned, and had some definitive hairs showing on some branches at the growing tips, like at the beginning of flowering. Yesterday, I saw balls on some of the branches and others still had hairs, they were not intermixed. I pulled her up and she is not rootbound.

I know my first F-13 was screwed up due to me, and it hermied, but I didn't do anything out of the ordinary with this new one. Watered 1-2 week before leaves look wilted, but when my moisture meter read 0-1. I would feed a weak dose of FF Grow Big once every 10 days or so, just when I started to see the bottom leaves start to yellow a bit. The only thing I did, out of lazyness, was dump small amounts of flowering mixed water (which was also on the weak side: 1/4tsp TB or 1/8tsp Open Sesame per gallon) onto her so I wouldn't have to throw out the solution (I am talking about no more than 6 ounces of feed water, dumped 3 times in the past 3 weeks). I cut all the branches that had balls on them, will she/it correct herself or is it a lost cause?

So am I on an unlucky streak, or did I do something wrong?

[SEEDYNONO]

if you have absolute perfect zero-light black conditions for flower and good light penetration to all the branches and you have good temps going and a good environment overall and haven't water stressed them it's probably just a hermie and yes bad luck.

personally if i find straight up branches with balls on my plants early in flower and am certain i'm light-tight and perfect.. i call it a hermie and toss it. if i have some late flower nanners i will try to hunt them out and only at that point do i really let them go ahead and finish.. because there would already be substantial buddage at that point to salvage.

are these little undergrowth branches or entire main shoots we're talking about?

[speedracer-x]

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I used this plant for cuttings, as a mom. I have 4 main branches (secondaries from the meristem) that I pulled down so they are all on a level plane (so when I throw her in flower, it will be like a scrog). It's the tertiary branches that are showing sex (male or female depending on where you look). Again, this plant has been vegging her whole life, never went to flower, but my flower area is light tight now. I have 1 white russian (3weeks) and 1 bagseed (2 weeks) flowering in there at the moment and they are 100% female, so no light leaks.

This was my 4th seed out of the pack. 2 never popped, the other hermied (my fault), and now this one has issues. Veg and flower area are 20x24" each. In the veg area, I have a 250hps and in flower area I have a 400mh. Temps in veg and flower when lights are on are 75f and 85f respectively and ambient (~70f) when lights are out.

Originally Posted by speedracer-x

So I had an issue with my last F13 in flower. This one showed signs of being female about 3 weeks ago (she is about 8 weeks old) and has been in veg with 24/0 lighting. She is in a 1 1/2 gallon pot, LST'd and pruned, and had some definitive hairs showing on some branches at the growing tips, like at the beginning of flowering. Yesterday, I saw balls on some of the branches and others still had hairs, they were not intermixed. I pulled her up and she is not rootbound.

I know my first F-13 was screwed up due to me, and it hermied, but I didn't do anything out of the ordinary with this new one. Watered 1-2 week before leaves look wilted, but when my moisture meter read 0-1. I would feed a weak dose of FF Grow Big once every 10 days or so, just when I started to see the bottom leaves start to yellow a bit. The only thing I did, out of lazyness, was dump small amounts of flowering mixed water (which was also on the weak side: 1/4tsp TB or 1/8tsp Open Sesame per gallon) onto her so I wouldn't have to throw out the solution (I am talking about no more than 6 ounces of feed water, dumped 3 times in the past 3 weeks). I cut all the branches that had balls on them, will she/it correct herself or is it a lost cause?

So am I on an unlucky streak, or did I do something wrong?

hi speed, take a step back and do less to stress out your young ones. just grow them on with a light and dark cycle and try to keep things simple, and as nature intended.. it sounds very complicated all this training and stress that your young plants have dealt with. please take this comment as positive as i dont say this with any malice,, J.

[guineapig]

if it happens in early flowering, you quarantine it or destroy it to prevent seeding the other females.....

some strains are more succeptible to stress than others, it seems.....some very good
strains unfortunately sometimes do this, but if male flowers develop late in flowering, or there are only a few male flowers overall, i would let it go....

kind regards from guineapig

[speedracer-x]

Originally Posted by jingles

hi speed, take a step back and do less to stress out your young ones. just grow them on with a light and dark cycle and try to keep things simple, and as nature intended.. it sounds very complicated all this training and stress that your young plants have dealt with. please take this comment as positive as i dont say this with any malice,, J.

No malice taken, thank you. So, since the stress has been applied, what will the outcome be if I flower her? I have 3 cuttings of her that have rooted, one more that is almost rooted. Since I took the cuttings before this all happened, should I scrap the mom and turn one of the cuttings into a mom?

Also, along the stres line...iirc, our plants have a built in memory of the amount of stress they have received throughout their life (eg. major stress to mom before taking cuttings will have that stress imprint/transfer to the cuttings, in addition to anything one does to stress the cuttings? is that correct?), so if they keep an imprint of the amount of stress they have already dealt with, would it be safe to assume that I am almost at the limit of stress induced hermies with the cuttings?

Originally Posted by speedracer-x

No malice taken, thank you. So, since the stress has been applied, what will the outcome be if I flower her? I have 3 cuttings of her that have rooted, one more that is almost rooted. Since I took the cuttings before this all happened, should I scrap the mom and turn one of the cuttings into a mom?

Also, along the stres line...iirc, our plants have a built in memory of the amount of stress they have received throughout their life (eg. major stress to mom before taking cuttings will have that stress imprint/transfer to the cuttings, in addition to anything one does to stress the cuttings? is that correct?), so if they keep an imprint of the amount of stress they have already dealt with, would it be safe to assume that I am almost at the limit of stress induced hermies with the cuttings?

hi speed, thats some serious thinking youve been doing. ive no idea the conclusion to the questions you ask..

[Mr. Alkaline]

What does it smell like and is it purple?

[speedracer-x]

Originally Posted by Mr. Alkaline

What does it smell like and is it purple?

The one in veg that I have been referring to is still green and smells earthy, I guess.

The other F-13, first one I flowered and took a cutting of, turned purple after a few days in flower, purple buds too, and was also earthy smelling. This first F-13 had a light leak in flowering and I kept the best looking cutting (this cutting had only 1 ball I believe, whereas the other 4 cuttings had a minimum of 5 balls), I just saw that after 3 weeks there was another, albeit single, ball on her too.

[Mr. Alkaline]

I had two myself but also two goodins.