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The Hashasin · 09-27-2004, 07:44 PM

Well here it is my 2nd indoor earth scrog. 3 x Sativas. Hell don't ask me what breed they are! I have no clue.

I had 10 plant's handed to me from my friend. They where sown in January of this year... Yes January, left too there own devices in an attack loft with one miserable source of light from a 2x2 skylight :( They where more like fuckin bean stalks when I got them stretching for light at about 2 feet tall and 3 miserable nodes only. I placed 1 out side planted it in plain old earth next to some nettles. The light was terrible almost no sun in that 3 week outdoor period. I brung her in and she was promptly given decent light & company with the other 2 lady's in the closet 18/6 for a period of 3 weeks.

Aug the 24th I put them under 12/12 and these are some recent Images taken yesterday 26th Sept and day before. Sorry about the quality as it's not much of a Macro Camera though better than nout I suppose.

Grow Room...
Closet 4x4 Feet by 3.5 feet ceiling space.
Light Sylvania Growlux 400W HPS with 10% Blue.
Fan Boxter 240V AC Temps are stable 78F with 400W
Feed Nutes...
Pre-Flower Veg. No additional N just soils Trace Elements
2 x 5 Gallon bucket, 1 x 10 Gallon Rubbish Bin for big Moma.
Flower 12/12 Levington Tomorite 4-4.5-8 Double as per Instructed
Water Source & PH 7 Neutral from TAP left standing room temp
Earth Mediam Mixture 80/20 Peat Moss and Grit, base of bins & buckets filled with approx 3 inches of Granite Chips. No holes for drainage. No problems with roots IE rot.

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Next lot taken out of grow chamber for decent light levels...

The Hashasin · 09-27-2004, 08:06 PM

Well here are the lady's oot oh there grow room. The very deliberate background "Black" over exsposure too take out tell tale objects (No incrimination)...

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That's all the Buddy pics for now. Check below next thread for my Clones of Moma No#1 10 of them.

The Hashasin · 09-27-2004, 08:31 PM

Ok,
x10 Clone Cuttings taken from Big Moma... Big Moma happened too be the African Queen that was outdoors for a short period in soil. They are 9 Day's old now and these picturs where taken today 27th Sept 04. All plant cuttings seem too be vigerous except 1 "There is always one" They have all taken on nice Root Growth in there little Clone Dome

They sit in a wee home made propagator from a Goldfish Plastic Tank. They are placed on a polystyrene base for heat retention and insulation. Simply placed on a window cill during the day and in a room on top of a hi-unit for the evening. The height they are placed during the night enables them too receive good temps as the house cools in the eve. I leave a Phillips Fluro 950 Lumens on throughout the night. These look like promising clones taken at approx 30 day's from flowering Moma. I got 1 Banna/Male Flower on Moma 2 I noticed it yesterday when taking the pictures. I may leave it and take some Pollen from it and x pollinate 1 latteral branch on Moma2... Will this guarentee me femanised seeds!

Anyway here are the Clones in there wee propagator. Tommorrow I will take them out and transplant them into 1 Gallon Pots of the same Medium as above for grow#3. There is also a picture of Big Moma#1 when she was outdoors with her cousins..... The Stinging Nettles.

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So.... Phewwww glad I got them all out the way. I hope you enjoy my Journals! I will be posting an update on this grow weekly until they are ready too harvest and then the Dry & Cure and finaly the great moment of truth the tasting and smoking of these nice Sativas. I already have smoked all the small shit little buds I pruned off and the HI was overpowering (I was a greedy bastard) I smoked it all in 2 joints and whitey was bad LOL oh ROTFL the Hi was very Cerebral and then I almost passed oot lmao. They smell and taste like Mango...

LeeroyJackson · 09-28-2004, 08:48 AM

Gday Hashasin, great stuff that your taking on sativa strains indoors in a small space. Ive been wanting to do that for some time now.

How do you know for sure there is no root rot? Just curious...as you said you dont use drainage holes in your pots?

I dont think ive ever heard of anyone doing that with soil growing before.

The Hashasin · 09-28-2004, 05:06 PM

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How do you know for sure there is no root rot?

Hi LJ,
Nice too meet you

I'm going by other previous grows only LJ! Never seemingly had any problems with root rot.... After crytical examination of the root balls when the Plant/Plants have been harvested there have been no obvious sign of degenerating roots. Of course there are always new roots being produced at a healthy rate as long as moma is in good condiotion and happy.... So there has too be dead root mass in the medium! I guess there are a few products commercialy available for the safe brekdown of these old roots? Though I tend too let nature run it's course and everything seems too go ok.

Thank's for the nice comments on the Girl's and I look forward to seeing you around... Good luck if you decide too take on Sativas in-door I find it most rewarding as I love too manipulate these very fast growing Sativas.

LeeroyJackson · 09-28-2004, 06:00 PM

What would you do if you needed top leach or flush the soil when you dont have drainage holes?

ps: nice to meet you too

The Hashasin · 09-28-2004, 07:56 PM

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What would you do if you needed top leach or flush the soil when you dont have drainage holes?

I know what your getting @ LJ, and it's a very valid point

I would get a "RED HOT POKER" from the fire and quickly implement some drain holes.... Though I hope I never have too address that particular problem man...

I guess that I'm not the only indor Soil Grower using containers with out drainage holes! It just seemed natural too me too leave no holes, that way I have pay more attention to my watering/feeding regime. With the granite chip base I guess that helps as well. Though thinking about it logicaly I have never watered/fed plants in smaller pots as much as the water has actualy been visible running out the drainage holes! Hope that has answered your question my man. Hey maybe catch you in the Chats IRC#.

Oh I never had time today too pot out my Clones so tomorrow I will get that done. Damb these mamas are stinking me out...

Okie grown · 09-28-2004, 08:07 PM

I dont understand how you can go with out holes in youre pots?How do you know when thay need watered?I wait untill the pots get light.I guess after the roots grow to the bottom of the pot thay might suck all the water off the bottom if you dont water often.I bet if you make holes in the bottom so thay dry out faster and you water more thay would grow better.Just my 2 cents.Nice grow

The Hashasin · 09-29-2004, 01:32 AM

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How do you know when thay need watered

I read my plants like I read my kids or pet's Okie, they tell me exactly what they need by there look. Don't ask me how to do that

It's something that you can not teach it comes natural... Next grow I will however punch some holes through the base. I still think though if you can see liquid coming from the base of a pot your overdoing it! I take my time too water plant's Okie and observe there status through out the day I know whether they have been under or over fed or watered.

Thank's for the thumbs up on my grow man and nice too meet you, see you around.

The Hashasin · 09-29-2004, 06:11 PM

Well a lovely day here almost summer like, our 1st realy hard frost of the year. I got some time today to transplany my clones from there dome. So hear are the new transplants ready too go into there clone grow chamber in a few days time. I gave away 3 of them to my mate that gave me the Big Afro Moma No1. I also managed too get a few pictures of some very nice Shrooms Growing in my garden....

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Dreaming of Fairy's & Gobblins

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>>>>My 1st grow 200W Indoor<<<<

ground control come in
ground control come in
this is the guy that can fly-where the fuck am i?

09-27-2004, 08:06 PM	#2
The Hashasin Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shamone Motha Fuckas... Posts: 337	Pictures Out Of Closet... Well here are the lady's oot oh there grow room. The very deliberate background "Black" over exsposure too take out tell tale objects (No incrimination)... Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image That's all the Buddy pics for now. Check below next thread for my Clones of Moma No#1 10 of them.
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09-28-2004, 06:00 PM	#6
LeeroyJackson Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 263	Sounds interesting man What would you do if you needed top leach or flush the soil when you dont have drainage holes? ps: nice to meet you too Last edited by LeeroyJackson; 09-28-2004 at 07:01 PM..
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09-28-2004, 08:07 PM	#8
Okie grown Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whats my mfin name! Posts: 1,072	nice grow I dont understand how you can go with out holes in youre pots?How do you know when thay need watered?I wait untill the pots get light.I guess after the roots grow to the bottom of the pot thay might suck all the water off the bottom if you dont water often.I bet if you make holes in the bottom so thay dry out faster and you water more thay would grow better.Just my 2 cents.Nice grow
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09-29-2004, 06:11 PM	#10
The Hashasin Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shamone Motha Fuckas... Posts: 337	Clones a go...go... Well a lovely day here almost summer like, our 1st realy hard frost of the year. I got some time today to transplany my clones from there dome. So hear are the new transplants ready too go into there clone grow chamber in a few days time. I gave away 3 of them to my mate that gave me the Big Afro Moma No1. I also managed too get a few pictures of some very nice Shrooms Growing in my garden.... Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Dreaming of Fairy's & Gobblins Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image >>>>My 1st grow 200W Indoor<<<< ground control come in ground control come in this is the guy that can fly-where the fuck am i? Last edited by The Hashasin; 09-30-2004 at 04:41 PM..
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09-27-2004, 07:44 PM	#1
The Hashasin Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shamone Motha Fuckas... Posts: 337	2nd Indoor Grow 400W HPS Well here it is my 2nd indoor earth scrog. 3 x Sativas. Hell don't ask me what breed they are! I have no clue. I had 10 plant's handed to me from my friend. They where sown in January of this year... Yes January, left too there own devices in an attack loft with one miserable source of light from a 2x2 skylight :( They where more like fuckin bean stalks when I got them stretching for light at about 2 feet tall and 3 miserable nodes only. I placed 1 out side planted it in plain old earth next to some nettles. The light was terrible almost no sun in that 3 week outdoor period. I brung her in and she was promptly given decent light & company with the other 2 lady's in the closet 18/6 for a period of 3 weeks. Aug the 24th I put them under 12/12 and these are some recent Images taken yesterday 26th Sept and day before. Sorry about the quality as it's not much of a Macro Camera though better than nout I suppose. Grow Room... Closet 4x4 Feet by 3.5 feet ceiling space. Light Sylvania Growlux 400W HPS with 10% Blue. Fan Boxter 240V AC Temps are stable 78F with 400W Feed Nutes... Pre-Flower Veg. No additional N just soils Trace Elements 2 x 5 Gallon bucket, 1 x 10 Gallon Rubbish Bin for big Moma. Flower 12/12 Levington Tomorite 4-4.5-8 Double as per Instructed Water Source & PH 7 Neutral from TAP left standing room temp Earth Mediam Mixture 80/20 Peat Moss and Grit, base of bins & buckets filled with approx 3 inches of Granite Chips. No holes for drainage. No problems with roots IE rot. Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Next lot taken out of grow chamber for decent light levels...
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09-27-2004, 08:31 PM	#3
The Hashasin Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Shamone Motha Fuckas... Posts: 337	Clones Ok, x10 Clone Cuttings taken from Big Moma... Big Moma happened too be the African Queen that was outdoors for a short period in soil. They are 9 Day's old now and these picturs where taken today 27th Sept 04. All plant cuttings seem too be vigerous except 1 "There is always one" They have all taken on nice Root Growth in there little Clone Dome They sit in a wee home made propagator from a Goldfish Plastic Tank. They are placed on a polystyrene base for heat retention and insulation. Simply placed on a window cill during the day and in a room on top of a hi-unit for the evening. The height they are placed during the night enables them too receive good temps as the house cools in the eve. I leave a Phillips Fluro 950 Lumens on throughout the night. These look like promising clones taken at approx 30 day's from flowering Moma. I got 1 Banna/Male Flower on Moma 2 I noticed it yesterday when taking the pictures. I may leave it and take some Pollen from it and x pollinate 1 latteral branch on Moma2... Will this guarentee me femanised seeds! Anyway here are the Clones in there wee propagator. Tommorrow I will take them out and transplant them into 1 Gallon Pots of the same Medium as above for grow#3. There is also a picture of Big Moma#1 when she was outdoors with her cousins..... The Stinging Nettles. Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image Click for Larger Image So.... Phewwww glad I got them all out the way. I hope you enjoy my Journals! I will be posting an update on this grow weekly until they are ready too harvest and then the Dry & Cure and finaly the great moment of truth the tasting and smoking of these nice Sativas. I already have smoked all the small shit little buds I pruned off and the HI was overpowering (I was a greedy bastard) I smoked it all in 2 joints and whitey was bad LOL oh ROTFL the Hi was very Cerebral and then I almost passed oot lmao. They smell and taste like Mango...
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09-28-2004, 08:48 AM	#4
LeeroyJackson Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 263	Gday Hashasin, great stuff that your taking on sativa strains indoors in a small space. Ive been wanting to do that for some time now. How do you know for sure there is no root rot? Just curious...as you said you dont use drainage holes in your pots? I dont think ive ever heard of anyone doing that with soil growing before.
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