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Old 04-26-2007, 04:02 AM
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preventing early spring flowering with clones

Just wanted to get as much feedback and hints as possible. Please anyone with any suggestion fire away. I'm thinking of cutting back the inside light time to 15 or 15.5 hours. Should I wait to plant until late may to be safe?

Also I read another thread is this forum about spraying the plants with aspirin water early on in veg to prevent mold. I can't seem to find the thread though so if anyone can enlighten me to the method it would be cool. Thanks!
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:12 AM
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What light do you have them on now? If it's been 24/0 then they will start to flower at 15 hrs of light.....
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well every plant i put out side 2 clones and one seed plant have all started flowering on me only was i see it is to run the light at what every the out door light cycles is in my case its 13 1/2 hours now i have a mex bag seeds plant i been growing in coco out side since i sprouted it and its not flowing and put out 2 ak47 x bb from seeds thats was growing under 15/8 85 watts flos and there not flowing either seems the only one flowering are the ones i had under 18/6 of light now my question will they keep flowing in till there done or will they reveg?
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As stated above -One important factor is what light cycle are they on right now. I know myself that I have set clones out in may that were rooted running on a 18/6 and they immediately started flowering, but given enough time they reverted back to the veg stage and grew to full bountiful plants

Ideally trying to closely match the outdoor time table is best or as close to it as poossible but still may flower to sme degree with indica clonesAs for the asprin spray I never heard of it and wouldn't do it to my plants IMO
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JJ - I've had them on 24 but just switched to 18 a few days ago...im gonna go with 18 for a couple then switch to 16 for a couple and hope that works. I might even wait until june to throw them in the ground.
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My bet is that they start flowering, but maybe not, just my 2 cents. Happens to me all the time and it sucks. I actually found this thread searching for some answers to preventing flowering. Butte is doing very well with this issue this year. Any additional info would be highly appreciated.
BTW, the asprin thing could potentially work. They make Asprin from Willow tree bark and it's been used for all kinds of cure alls with plants. Never tried it myself, I'd go very light if you feel you need to try it.
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Good thread topic. I've had problems with this in previous years. I've seen many plants re-veg but it definitely results in lower yields... I guess the best set-up is a greenhouse of some sort w/ electricity so you can have supplemental lighting. Anyone else who has information on this topic, please share.

Edit: Maybe give them more N to help prevent flowering???

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Know more than 14 hours while indoors. No more no less. I also give them a small dose of Nitrogen the day b4 the go outdoors.
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Pleacing clones out in mid may without matching the light cycle, will guarantee preflower. More importantly, placing root-bound clones outside will absolutely guarantee pre flower. Some will snap out though you will be left with very leafy herb where the preflowering had previously occured.

Placing cuts out past June 10 will typically solve this, providing they are not rootbound. An experiment I have yet to try is taking a freshly rooted cut of an ezclone, in the shade for 2-3 days, and then in direct sunlight. I hypothesize that this method could work. I did it in early June with Cheese, with no ill effects from the scorching sun, thus it most likely could work in early May. Dunno fer sure though.

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I know I'm a little late, but here's the write-up from my thread as to how I did it...

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...I started most everything back in February under an 18/6 photoperiod under a 1000w inside. Then, in early April I put them out in the halfway house. The plastic I have for this house is probably only 70% light transmission, so this had an effect of hardening them off a bit while they got bigger. I followed DJ Highst’s advice (THANKS!) on the supplemental lighting program by taking the daylight hours and adding a bit of supplemental in the evening and in the morning. This meant the lights came on before the sun actually was totally down and ran till 11 to 12 PM. The lights went off and then back on around 3 or 4 in the morning till well after sunrise.

After a couple weeks under plastic, I moved them out into the full sun while still retaining the lighting schedule. Every few days (no schedule, just as I remembered), I would knock 15 minutes off the morning or the night so the “dark period” slowly got longer. The thought was to slowly bring the lighting back into a natural rhythm. I achieved this with only a couple 40w bulbs, too.

Once I wanted to put them in the ground, I did actually string up another couple rows of light to light up the main patch, too. Since I had brought power into the plot last year, this was relatively straightforward. As we’re almost to the solstice, I’m almost done with the supplemental, but I still have a couple hours to shave off the total time. Overkill? You bet! Flowering? Not on the plants that had this regimen. The one purps I put in that has triggered was being veg’ed under 3000w at 18/6 and it triggered on me. I think the intensity of the light is to blame for this as his cuts (from the same batch) had a lot more growth than those I had in the sun! Then, with a lesser degree of light outside, they flipped.
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