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Old 11-26-2004, 06:29 PM #11
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Alot of interesting link's posted people. Alot of morning reading for me to do, thank's.

There has been alot of talk on the boards about this subject, but this is a bit more in depth.

I am not sure what is in Hydrogaurd, but since I started using it I have hand much better root growth and healthy root's thru out the entier grow. This never happened for me when I was DWC style, then again I did not use the hydrogaurd back then either.

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Old 11-26-2004, 06:55 PM #12
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Another vote for the friendly fungi!

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Old 11-27-2004, 10:13 AM #13
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Hydroguards fungi basically serve a different purpose and basically contains different kinds of Bacillus. It's serves to protect your roots and therefore, you have less damage to your root mass from pathogens and diseases.

Myco's settle in your roots and make homes in them. They make your roots grow by producing a symbiotic relationship with the plant and it therefore make MUCH more roots.

Trichoderma, well, I'll let Tex answer that, he has much more detailed explanations.
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:43 PM #14
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demeegod, well you basically said what the label say's, and I must say it has been an imporment on the garden. Maybe the combination of a few other thing's I am doing have worked together. I do feel so lucky at time's as I did not read about it, just used it on advice from another.

I am very interested in keeping my girl's as happy as can be, so I will have to look into this much deeper.

I am so glad I was invited to this site by a friend. It has been a pleasure to learn again. This is a very loaded site with knowledge about growing in many way's.

I only expect to build my knowledge and better my grow room to grow bigger and better girl's.

stay safe and grow the same way.

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Old 11-27-2004, 07:35 PM #15
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Well here i am going on about Vita-link again, but this product is 100% organic,
i think is this kinda thing, beneficial bacteria, its called Bio-pak, 100% organic bio-stimulant with nitrogen fixing, phosphorous solubilising and growth promoting bacteria and fungi says it also helps to chelate small mineral paticles to promote their entry into the plant. also contains, humic extracts, yucca extracts, cold water sea kelp, amino acids, vitamins and sugars. i had it given to me in the growshop, should av cost me 25 pounds. i wanted some superhtrive to use when transplanting, and he said try this, so i used it, and im impressesed, the plants i potted on with this in the watering, rooted the pot and took off straight away compared to the 2 plants i did without(experiment), all were Hindu kush x skunk #1 clones which were the samw age, from the same batch of cuts, in identical pots, and mix. Id recommend this product, and when it runs out( a long time cos this .2 litre tub of powder treats 800 litres of soloution) i will be buying some. i would say that all these things must be good.
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:53 PM #16
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I did notice something earlier I didn't know and if someone will explain I'd be grateful. Beneficial fungi and organisms. Do they die in hydro-chemical nute solutions or is there a special way you must add them?

Just asking because I usually use Canna Aqua (which is the watered down Canna for recirculating systems) and wanted to know if that would basically kill Trichoderma or Mycos... seem to me hydroguard was made for hydroponic setups so I assume they took this into account but what about the others? WOuld I need to run the plant 48 hours with pure fungi and organisms for them to take hold first or something?
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quick question, how well does the fungi work in a soiless mix?
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I dunno how much they would help in hydro, the nutrients are already dissolved and there's plenty of water around for uptake so no need for assistance. It seems like this stuff is best for plants that are in a soil environment so they can help break down nutes. But usually people feed their plants fertilizer with dissolved nutes so I don't know how much they'd help.
I broke out my old biology text book and I'm trying to learn some plant physiology, it's really helping me to make some educated guesses as to what's really gonna help and what isn't. I think these hydro companies are making a killing off folks on additives and extra crap.
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No philly the fungi is very good stuff. Hydro or Soil

If you are using organic nutes you need this to break down the organics to a form absorbable by your roots. This is the difference between organics and chemicals. Organics must be broken down. Chemicals are immediately ready for your roots. It really doesn't make a difference if it's soil or hydro, but rather chemical or organic. People using pure chemical nutes do not need to break down their nutes therefore it would be a waste. If you are using a organic/chemical mix you should be using the fungi. The organic side still needs to be broken down. The chemical side of the mix is already ready to go.
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Two-part mycorrhizal inoculants, Earth Nectar and Earth Ambrosia, are for use with soil gardening and in hydroponics systems. When Earth Nectar—containing the concentrated mycorrhizal cultures—is mixed with Earth Ambrosia—the fuel delivery system for the active cultures—they combine to infuse the growing medium with mycorrhizal cultures resulting in stronger plants and increased crop yields.


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Earth Nectar & Earth Ambrosia. Used together in your cloning system these solutions prevent the slimy buildup that sometimes accompanies the water in the system if not changed often. Using these solutions cuts down on the gray matter that at times appears on fledgling cuttings. You will find this product to be indispensable in your cloning adventures. Sold in set of pints or quarts, must buy both.
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